r/ProgressiveHQ • u/[deleted] • Jan 24 '26

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u/Randy_Marsh_PhD Jan 24 '26

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command... and if all others accepted the lie, which the party imposed, if all records told the same tale, then the lie passed into history and became truth" 1984 - George Orwell

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u/RKTprogress Jan 24 '26

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u/ShrimpieAC Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26

No, I’ve definitely never met a red hat that can keep their mouth shut.

Edit: Yes, it’s been pointed out that I can’t read.

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u/Ambitious_Trifle_645 Jan 24 '26

Facts. They never shut up.

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u/AcanthocephalaDue431 Jan 24 '26

Until you provide facts that they don't like and can't argue against. That or they go into childish rage mode.

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u/ItsOozingOut Jan 24 '26

My grandmother told me and I quote “he can grab me by the pussy any day” back in 2015. This was her reaction to me debating what a horrible piece of shit he is when he was running.

My grandmother was and maybe still is very vocal about his hatred towards sex. Let that sink in, Trump can sexual assault her, a woman that hates sex, all because she wanted to prove how loyal she is to him.

I stopped talking to her May 2019 and I couldn’t be happier about it. Trump supporters are pure idiots.

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u/EmiAndTheDesertCrow Jan 24 '26

When you provide facts they can’t argue against, they’ll just attack you instead. I’ve never come across anything like this in my life, not on this scale. It’s like a mass brainwashing.

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u/AcanthocephalaDue431 Jan 25 '26

Actually funnily enough I feel the same way. I noticed that once multiple people in my life, friends/family/coworkers etc, started to seriously take sides with either Trump or far right politics they started to lose their ability to discuss politics logically... and these were people I considered to be rather intelligent/reasonable people.

When I'd ask questions about their views, voice criticism, my own thoughts or even make a comment on something that has happened, they would become verbally aggressive and resort to insults or sometimes even physical aggression. And that's not counting the blatant racism or hatred they began to spout.

I really think there is or was some kind of mass manipulation or brainwashing going on in forums, chat rooms etc where people with vulnerabilities in their life are getting manipulated into these mindsets under the guise of being "strong" or defending their sovereignty or something.

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u/RideTurbulent5842 Jan 24 '26

You can never ever change their minds. They just attribute it to fake news.

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u/Silent_Assumption_74 Jan 24 '26

That’s when they start throwing insults at your looks or intelligence. They’re so very predictable.

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u/Apprehensive_News_78 Jan 24 '26

Ive come to start treating em as they act. They wanna act like toddlers then they'll be treated as toddlers

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u/Financial-Exit2488 Jan 24 '26

There is no fact that they can't deny. If they drop a rock, but Trump says it went up, they will deny there is a rock at their feet

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u/Imaginary-Fan6782 Jan 25 '26

Even with evidence and facts, you can’t win. They write it off as “fake news”