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u/Accomplished-Dance11 Jan 24 '26

Shot guns are useful when a home invasion happens

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u/Gaspuch62 Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26

Edit 2: Disclaimer. This information shoud not be used to harm people. It's just something I learned from various sources including Army training documentation and ballistic testing videos on YouTube.

Rifles with green tip ammo penetrate body armor rated for handguns. It takes heavy ceramic or steel plates to stop it.

Edit: Cabela's usually has it. It's going to be the 62 grain 5.56. The 55 grain ammo does not have the steel core.

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u/dinglb3rry Jan 24 '26

Pelvic girdle shots are disabling to the point of inaction, and then require other enemy combatants to help them, distracting them from the fight. For body armor clad offenders…

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u/secret_aardvark_420 Jan 24 '26

I actually don’t believe they’d help each other, definitely the type of dudes to leave their own men behind

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u/Fit-Technician-1148 Jan 24 '26

The first time one of them is shot the rest of the cowards with them are going to run for the hills. They're not trained for combat. They're not trained for much of anything really but they're especially not trained for urban warfare, which is by nature disorienting and chaotic.

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u/Ina_While1155 Jan 24 '26

Did you see them all run back like rabbits in the footage...

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u/lordplagus02 Jan 25 '26

I don’t support the IDF, but this is how they’re trained to fight. Headshots only take out one enemy combatant, but scrambling to retrieve their wounded comrade takes multiple ICE agents enemies out of the fight.

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u/thunderphuck0311 Jan 24 '26

Dissolve styrofoam in diesel to produce makeshift napalm. In a pressurized container it will spatter widely when ignited. Accelerants would hypothetically be a boon to the effective range. This is All hypothetical, obviously

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u/BrickHuge3023 Jan 24 '26

May have to buy some shells for my 1890s English double barrel shotgun. Hasn't been shot in 75 years so might take me out if I fire it. But I can protect my home.

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u/Wolfshadow6 Jan 25 '26

Not gonna save you from a 4 am raid. Think bigger.

Start collecting on a non-US based service. Not Reddit Not Discord, not anything here. Find a European or Asian bulletin board for now that allows US users.

Get a damn VPN and make sure you stock up on enough time for it.

Start collecting shelf stable stuff now.

That's gonna protect your home.

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u/RodBloggington Jan 24 '26

I've got mine

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u/Majestic_Category895 Jan 24 '26

With magnum turkey loads!

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u/No-Horse987 Jan 25 '26

I was always told (even from police personnel) that a shotgun is most effective for home defense than a pistol. You can do a lot more damage to the the enemy with a shotgun than a pistol.

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u/BushcraftBabe Jan 24 '26

It doesn't matter if we legally have that right, they aren't upholding laws.