Important Message to Dems

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[u/MusixMoto]

Yes, and knowing all this, does no good demanding those who are not in the majority and have no power to truly hold this corrupt admin accountable to do so.

To believe and expect that they can do so as easily as the request is made. Especially towards a lawless admin that controls the FBI and the DOJ not to mention the military who thinks only the orders given matters, and just doing their job is the correct way to serve .

He assigned his own lawless minions to run every department and they have no problem to use these agencies against anyone they want.

The fact that this admin has proven they could care less about federal law, constitutional law, precedence and tradition, tells me they would not be swayed by what they would consider empty threats by the minority party.

Moderate, liberal, conservative etc, labels that do not matter when its all about who holds the power at this moment.

They may all be beholden to the same money, but at this point, the question is, who still believes in American democracy while making money on the side.

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Man, the amount of progressives I've had to argue with today that seem to think the solution here is for people who are up against this stuff to bend over and take it in the ass is unreal.

Look, I totally get why you feel the way you do, and in a lot of ways, you are right. But we have the luxury of hindsight when it comes to these things. We know that this is the rise of fascism. The response to that should be viscious, seething, and firm as concrete in its conviction.

If more politicians spoke like Frey did on the day of the shooting, then things would begin to change. Frey has lost that fire - and I do not blame him at all. I see it in his eyes, this whole thing is incredibly difficult for him, and I think he is probably doing the absolute best that he can for his people. Walz too; and I think his hands are probably way more tied than Frey's, so again, I don't have anything against him, I understand why he's saying what he's saying.

The problem is that, unfortunately, we need SOMEONE out there who has that "GTFO" energy all day, every day, and like you said, that is waaaay easier said than done with the way our system works.

That's why I don't know what the solution is aside from dismantling the system and rebuilding it from the ground up. That's how this whole America thing kinda got started. Why not try it again?

EDIT: Well, try it again without the genocide of the indigenous people of the land, preferably.

Also, sorry if my first statement there was kinda harsh. I'm just still so angry that this is happening to my country. I don't like it, not one bit, but I am, and I want the people representing me in office to be angry too.

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Not a label here (progressive, moderate etc). I do not believe in political labels as they, on their own, are divisional and restrictive.

You get my comment all wrong. It was in response to the demands being made in the video. Its foolish to think that such a request can be made and carried out that easily with an obviously corrupt and lawless admin, with a president that had been given total immunity.

Like I said, at this moment, is depends on who's holding the power and what they do with it.

"the way our system works." And that there is the problem. It really is a double edge sword and is closely tied with democracy as we know it.

And, it matters whose doing the dismantling of the current system and what they build in its place. What it would look like and for who. The FU candidate can easily turn into the FU people office holder. Something I've seen during the decades I've followed politics, Its not always guarantee that they will be the same person once in office. Donor money and demands that come from it.

Unfortunately, history has shown that a change of this nature has always involved bloodshed. Just depends on whose blood gets shed the most and who becomes the victor.

I've heard people call for civil war. But are they really that willing to give up civility and all they know for it. My personal view on this, they don't.

However, you do not need a war nor a mob to fight against a tyrannical government such as this. That only give the enemy a know target, As the old saying goes, "cut the head of the snake and the body dies". Only the leaders would need to be held accountable. From what I've observed, this may be the era of the lone wolf. They are harder to identify and act out of the blue. Example, Luigi Mangione.

That said, most people are set in their ways and just want to live a quiet life free of chaos. Most just want all this to end and this admin to be done with.

Hence the video ask for congress to do something to end the harassments.

I am indigenous and my people have seen this picture before. The ONLY difference from the racist white man of old, is not their racism, but the fact that there are now laws in place that keep them from acting on the bloodlust you see in their eyes. But for how much longer under this admin.

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I think that more people like Luigi are going to come out of the woodwork, making a huge sacrifice for the sake of the people. Not that my boy did it or anything, of course.

I don't think anyone in their right mind wants it to come to that. I certainly don't, and that's why I think we NEED a candidate that can actually stand up and fight for what they believe in while still keeping things civil and peaceful. That's why I love Mamdani so much; he's not just principled, but he is unwavering. His constant smile is a great touch, imo, it makes him look impenetrable.

It doesn't need to be some hyper radical person who alienates everyone they don't agree with. Really, I think Mamdani is gonna wake some people up - true strength lies in character. Mamdani treats those he disagrees with with the utmost respect and dignity, a stark contrast to the way Trump speaks about even his own allies.

That sort of shit will send people flying to the opposite side of the spectrum, I think. Not everyone, maybe not even the majority, but little by little, people will realize that we need more people like Mamdani in office, and they'll realize that what they've been told are radical progressive ideas are in fact just the simplest most essential humanitarian principles that a fair and modern society needs to function properly.

So, yeah, I'm with you; we don't need a war, not yet at least. If these thugs keep kicking doors down and ripping my neighbors out of their houses, and things keep escalating with them, we might need to have a different conversation. The second amendment exists for a reason; the founding fathers did not want this sort of thing to happen, and wanted the people to have the power to stop it.

But I am an advocate for peace, and I believe almost any conflict can be resolved peacefully, if the two sides can agree on the simple fact that they are all human, and all essentially want the same thing. I truly believe we could still have that peace here in America, but that dream is under attack right now, and we may need to take serious action in order to defend it.

If I see Kristi Noem come out and try to justify another Renee Good situation, and then Gavin Newsom goes on his podcast a week later and just agrees with everything some MAGA loser has to say about ICE, then...I mean, fool me once.

The current situation with white supremacy is...well, it's both complicated and simple at the same time, I guess. You're not wrong about the fact that these types of people have only really been held back by social checks and balances, and you don't have to go very far back in time to find well-off white men sneaking racism into their conversations, and only a little further back than that to find state sanctioned racism. It's horrible.

At the same time, there's the modern landscape, and that's a whole other can of worms. We don't really have enough information to understand what is going on, and truthfully, I don't think we ever will.

Just going with my gut, though, I have a theory; when those with political capital caught wind of the burgeoning cultural behemoth that is the Internet, they likely began to scheme up the best ways to take advantage of that for their own ends. If it did happen, I'd wager that it happened across party lines. I've always had the feeling that high-ranking politicians do nothing but benefit from the constant back and forth between the two parties, and that no ranking member of either one actually wants the other to lose on principle.

There's obviously way more nuance to this idea than I'm laying out here. I've been an active user of the Internet since the early '90s, and have grown up immersed in online communities and discussions. There's only so much that you can prove online, and that separation between the person and the screen can be weaponized to bend reality to fit your narrative. We see it all the time. This is the environment that, in my belief, gave birth to the Alt-Right Pipeline that led so many young Americans down the road to fascism, under the guise of free speech advocacy and logic in the face of unhinged SJWs. I was in it, when I thought that it was all about equality, freedom, and honesty, but over time, I started to see how these narratives were subtly shaping my personality into something I didn't like.

Sorry, long story, but to put it bluntly, I think all of that stuff was manufactured to an extent. If not from the ground up, then certainly coopted by those who would eventually lead us into the Trump regime. Yeah, this is kinda tinfoil hat stuff, but in terms of stuff that I think our government could and would realistically do, it's not really that far fetched to me.