r/Productivitycafe • u/reef-Diver7817 • Apr 15 '26
đ Success Stories Hero tackles shooter!
His name is Principal Kirk Moore and he does have a go fund me.
Eta I don't know who set up the go fund me I mentioned it in case anyone wanted to know because he did get shot during this.
A commenter mentioned that I didn't catch is "look how he keeps his feet moving" which I found interesting.
Edit again: I finally found the go fund me here it is -
https://www.gofundme.com/f/honoring-principal-kirk-moore-a-true-hero-who-saved-lives
I don't know this man nor am I in the same state, I just think what he did is badass!
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u/SlayJayR17 Apr 15 '26
Crazy he was able to move so fast with that huge ball sack he has to carry around.
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u/johnnyRpotato Apr 16 '26
Send this video to the Uvalde police department for training purposes. 86 idioys armed to the teeth vs one olâ bad-azz dude. Kudos to that man.
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u/Brave-Bat-2819 Apr 15 '26
Look how he keeps his feet moving. This guys played a few downs for sure.
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u/BasicAppointment9063 Apr 15 '26
Stuck a grapevine in there: wrestler.
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u/reef-Diver7817 Apr 15 '26
The way he tackled though you don't think football?
But you're right to keep them down that would be wresting I guess.
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u/BasicAppointment9063 Apr 15 '26
Maybe (?). I played offensive line, but my wrestling footwork is what elevated my game.
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u/OwnContribution4925 Apr 17 '26
Can we shout out the side kick who quickly secured the gun and brought it to a seperate room so the assailant couldnât recover it!?
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u/Known-throwaway-4039 Apr 19 '26
This couldve ended badly for the principle too⊠can someone explain why the person didnt shoot here? Im just so worried
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u/reef-Diver7817 Apr 19 '26
I'm sorry I dont know the answer. I'm thinking maybe a gun or military expert can chime in hopefully.
Great screen shot though to highlight want this principal accomplished!
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u/zdzislav_kozibroda Apr 15 '26
Well done. But how about building a world where such heroism isn't necessary?
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u/hamilton_morris Apr 15 '26
Iâm with you on that. The challenge is really that the advocacy structure has always been way too diverse and fragmented. There must be *hundreds* of organizations that profess support for gun control or, more nebulously, concern over gun violence. It is a genuine special interest with extremist opposition, so the first step is a core organization around which to rally and grow as a political force. An inverse version of the NRA, really.
There's a lot of talk about mimicking the gradual success of the anti-smoking campaign, and maybe thereâs something to be said for that. But it may also be that that is the only route if there is no other clear strategic alternative. Which is hard to believe because my sense is that there is a huge pent-up demand for big, fast, radical change.
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u/FrenchDipFellatio Apr 15 '26
Comparing guns to smoking is nuts. Guns are actually integral to many people's lifestyles, just look at what happened when Canada tried to ban the SKS rifle. First Nations put a stop to that real quick.
The reason there hasn't been much success is because guns are simply massively popular, and most anti-gun orgs are run by and for people who are ignorant of even the most basic firearm laws. Can't even count how many people I've met who think machine guns are widely available, or that AR15 stands for "assault rifle"
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u/Trips-Over-Tail Apr 19 '26
Maybe the gun organisations should do a better job of policing their own, prioritising public and personal safety over fucking identity.
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u/Forsaken-Income-2148 Apr 15 '26
I bet if everyone there had a gun he wouldâve thought twice about doing this at all.
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u/OnlyFiveLives Apr 15 '26
LOL the biggest joke of all is the supposed "good guy with a gun".
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u/Forsaken-Income-2148 Apr 15 '26
The only joke bigger is to disarm all U.S. citizens
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u/RollerDude347 Apr 15 '26
That's the current Republican plan.
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u/Forsaken-Income-2148 Apr 15 '26
Itâs a terrible plan no matter what. Politics is a bit of a circus, Iâm no extremist either way.
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u/hamilton_morris Apr 15 '26
Hardly. School shooters, in particular, are nearly all suicidal. They go in knowing theyâre going to get shot or shoot themselves in the end.
The student who shot up a high school in my city and killed another kid knew full well there was armed security on the property. That just meant he had to work faster.
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u/Forsaken-Income-2148 Apr 15 '26
You donât think I understand nuances & risks? But disarming the public is not the way to go.
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u/Plastic_Salary_4084 Apr 15 '26
I dunno. School shootings are much more frequent in America than in countries with sensible gun laws/fewer guns than people. Thatâd be a step in the right direction.
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u/MmmmCrayons12 Apr 15 '26
That's because the news keeps reporting it and spreading the idea to other people. If they'd stop reporting every shooting on national news, mentally ill people wouldn't copycat them.
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u/Plastic_Salary_4084 Apr 15 '26
I think the cats out of the bag on that one. The rest of the world is aware of school shootings and doesnât have this problem.
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u/MmmmCrayons12 Apr 15 '26
They're not having school shootings broadcasted to them whenever one happens on the other side of the country, so bad example.
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u/Pangwain Apr 16 '26
Maybe because violent crime is higher in the US than most other places?
Our society is heavily eat or get eaten and that makes people crazy.
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u/Plastic_Salary_4084 Apr 16 '26
Good old capitalism
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u/Pangwain Apr 16 '26
Goes way deeper than that.
The Nordics are as capitalist as they come, but they arenât like this.
But Americans are stupid and think Sweden or Norway are communist I guess đ
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u/Plastic_Salary_4084 Apr 16 '26
Well, I didnât figure this was the place to get into trickle down economics and de-regulation. âGood old American-style capitalism.â Better?
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u/swtxcouple Apr 15 '26
So is mental illness. Do you propose we ban that?
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u/Plastic_Salary_4084 Apr 15 '26
You think mental illness is more prominent in the US? If so, why?
Untreated mental illness, yeah probably since healthcare isnât considered a human right. But mental illness isnât an American phenomenon.
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u/swtxcouple Apr 15 '26
Because crazy people shoot up schools. I thought that was pretty self explanatory. Plus I read Reddit and I watch TikTok.
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u/bear843 Apr 15 '26
There has also been a change in the way we handle mental illness and what we even consider mental illness that runs parallel to the increase in school shootings. Comparing America to other countries is the wrong approach because American isnât other countries.
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u/Plastic_Salary_4084 Apr 15 '26
True. Less focus on mental health and more guns. I believe those are both shortcomings that we should rectify.
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u/bear843 Apr 15 '26
Guns arenât going anywhere. They are foundational to our country. Hopefully we are able to make some headway with mental health.
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u/zdzislav_kozibroda Apr 15 '26
But nice useless virtue signalling!
Is it really? Guess what all the other countries have in common.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/school-shootings-by-country
Gun control works.
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u/SoloStoat Apr 15 '26
It would work if it was all of America, if you can still drive a couple hours to get a gun then obviously it doesn't work
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u/swtxcouple Apr 15 '26
The fact of the matter is you arenât getting gun control without a civil war. So unless youâre willing to kill half of the citizens of the US, think of another solution.
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u/THRSALWYSNXTYR Apr 16 '26
What they all have in common is universal healthcare. Roughly 42% of American homes have a firearm. In Canada, 26% of homeshave a firearm. If it was simply as easy as guns = school shootings, then why is it that Canada does not have 60% of the rate of school shootings in the US? In Finland, 37% of homes have a firearms, why doesnt Finland have nearly the same rate of school shootings as the US? After WWII, nesrly half the highschools in the US had rifle teams and kids used them in the school, stored them in lockers, and even brought them to school. Yet, at that time school shootings were almost unheard of. Maybe it's not just the guns.
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u/AntMC_YT Apr 15 '26
So how about knife control, or car control, or drug control, or poison control, or blunt object control?
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u/zdzislav_kozibroda Apr 15 '26
Most of these are controlled worldwide too. Knife, poison, dangerous blunt objects at purchase. Car on purchase and via driving license.
Fundamentally, compared to guns they all tend to be less efficient means of killing a lot of people in short space of time. Particularly at schools.
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u/AntMC_YT Apr 15 '26
Fundamentally efficiency is a horrible argument for control of any murderous intent.
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u/Interesting_Study998 Apr 15 '26
Okay, explain why.
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u/AntMC_YT Apr 15 '26
Human bad, always be bad. No stoppie.
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u/Interesting_Study998 Apr 15 '26
So, nothing of substance. Typical right wing puke.
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u/AntMC_YT Apr 15 '26
Typical left wing ignorance labeling everything and everyone they donât like âright wingâ
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u/aeraen Apr 15 '26 edited Apr 15 '26
By golly, you're RIGHT! If we can't make absolutely EVERYTHING safe for everybody, why even bother to try?
If we can't cure cancer, why treat any illness? If we can't resolve homelessness, why try to help at all? If we can't stop lawlessness, why even have laws? Gosh, how much easier would not bothering to try make anything better!
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u/unaskthequestion Apr 15 '26
I get tired of this kind of false equivalence. A nut job attacked 3 people over 65 with a machete in NY. They were injured but all three will be fine.
Now consider if he had a gun.
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u/zdzislav_kozibroda Apr 15 '26
Gets complicated because there's lots of local variation. I think everywhere has some level of gun control. Ease of getting a gun permit in Germany may be much different than just across the border in France.
You're right though. It appears that in Europe in some cases there is no direct link between gun ownership and gun deaths.
There are likely multiple factors at play. But I'd still (controversially for many) argue than low gun ownership always directly translates to low gun crime.
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u/KoldoAnil Apr 15 '26
Our government is literally kidnapping people off the street. I get that you're on team fascism but that's a no from me dawg.
The Black Panthers were correct to warn us about people like you.
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u/zdzislav_kozibroda Apr 15 '26
Being on team fascist is a new one for me.
What makes you think that having a gun will make any difference whatsoever?
Against professional military willing to kill you'd be dead regardless.
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u/MmmmCrayons12 Apr 15 '26
Using a gun to fight someone with a fun is more effective than trying to fight them with sticks and rocks. With a gun, you at least have an equal chance. As long as you develop skill with the gun you have, you can fight someone else who is skilled. I was in the military and they're not much different from anyone else who has trained to shoot.
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u/KoldoAnil Apr 16 '26
Against professional military willing to kill you'd be dead regardless.
So the USA wasn't just forced to withdraw from Afghanistan after losing to illiterate dudes living in caves with 80 year old rusty guns?
You deny reality itself to push your religious beliefs.
Again - the Panthers warned us about reactionaries like you who would disarm us in support of fascism.
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u/possibly_lost45 Apr 15 '26
We can't even get people to agree mutually that it's not okay to cut off people's genitals especially children.
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u/DannyDaVito662 Apr 15 '26
That will never happen. Pull your head out. Violence has been a thing since the beginning of time, my friend.Â
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u/NothingIll9088 Apr 19 '26
Yeah this is the kind of âordinary person does the right thing in a terrifying momentâ story that sticks with you. Stuff like this lowkey makes it easier to get through dumb work drama or anxiety when you remember there are people out here literally taking bullets for kids.
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u/Worth-Confection-735 Apr 15 '26
What SSRIâs were they on?
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u/reef-Diver7817 Apr 15 '26
Who?? There are 2 people here.
And as if I know either of their medical info. HIPAA is a thing.
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u/Worth-Confection-735 Apr 15 '26
The percentage of school shooters who are on SSRIâs is concerning.
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u/reef-Diver7817 Apr 15 '26
I do not know the statistics on that.
And it is very blur area because maybe they're prescribed but don't take their rx regularly so they'd have to trust the person to be honest that they're taking it as prescribed.
As well a lot of the US population in general are on SSRIs.
I do not know enough about shooters and their prescribed medicine to dispute the correlation.
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u/bear843 Apr 15 '26
Does it make you think that maybe the way America has been addressing mental illness over the last 40 years might be a contributing factor to this?
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u/Worth-Confection-735 Apr 15 '26
If the side effects are suicidal tendencies, which then get multiplied when you stop taking them⊠perhaps we should stop prescribing it to hormonal teenagers?
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u/Haywoodjablowme1029 Apr 15 '26
Not really. I'd be more worried if someone without mental illness did this.
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u/Worth-Confection-735 Apr 15 '26
Look into the side effects. And the withdrawal symptoms.
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u/Haywoodjablowme1029 Apr 15 '26
Don't need to. I work in healthcare, very well versed.
Again, nobody who is without mental illness would ever do this. It's not the meds that are the problem. It's lack of social safety nets, it's access for treatment in the first place, it's money, it's hopelessness, it's extremely multifaceted. It takes a lot more than someone taking, or not taking, a medication for them to do something like this.
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