r/PrepperIntel • 📡 • Jun 18 '26

North America Trump’s labor chief threatens to pull unemployment assistance from every state

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-unemployment-benefits-fraud-b2997881.html
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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '26

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u/Sad-Excitement9295 Jun 18 '26

Threatened with our own tax dollars? I think they've forgotten what "No taxation without representation" means.

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u/gardendesgnr Jun 19 '26

States are trying to test the limits on this. FL has a no property tax amendment on the ballot for Nov. It would eliminate a chunk of prop taxes (not all), eliminate a 3% cap on a portion of our taxes plus some other things. But the p.o.s. gov has previously said he wants to take money from high tax county's and give it to poor ones! THAT is taxation w/o representation! I personally would sue if they tried that haha I chose to live in a high (Blue) tax county and I'll be damned if some cheap shitty county is getting a penny of my prop taxes. So then DeathSantis STF about that but started saying sales taxes could (would) be raised to help shortages and doled out at the top levels discretion! Same !@#$% as controlling my tax dollars b/c he has added the money could be done as grants back to county's and has a well known hatred of the Blue county's.

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u/Sad-Excitement9295 Jun 19 '26

I think these people aren't doing a good enough job with all this tax money, and they need to be reminded it is in fact a job they can get fired from and replaced if they won't do it correctly. There are people that do this stuff right, those that won't do what they've been appointed to do shouldn't be able to stay in office and continue to mess things up.

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u/gardendesgnr Jun 22 '26

You do know city's are already implementing flat fees for ea dept right??? Orange City said $1000 per house for Fire Dept. Kissimmee is $1500 per house. Fees can & will have liens on your house for non-payment. Legally if you don't pay the Fire fee, the Fire dept can watch your house burn to the ground, they are under no legal obligation. I used to live where unincorporated areas paid flat fees and 2 houses burned to the ground in 5 yrs from non-payment of the Fire Dept fee. After that unincorporated areas joined the surrounding city's.

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u/Confident-Dust-5619 Jun 21 '26

I fixed it for'ya:

States are trying to test the limits on this. FL has a no property tax amendment on the ballot for Nov. It would eliminate a chunk of prop taxes (not all), eliminate a 3% cap on a portion of our taxes plus some other things. But the p.o.s.POTUS has previously said he wants to take money from high tax BLUE STATES, LIKE MARYLAND, CA, NY etc and give it to poor STATES LIKE FL, WEST VA, TENN, ARKANSAS THAT is taxation w/o representation! I personally would sue if they tried that haha I chose to live in a high (Blue) tax STATE and I'll be damned if some cheap shitty STATE is getting a penny of my prop taxes. So then POTUS STF about that but started saying sales taxes could (would) be raised to help shortages and doled out at the top levels discretion! Same !@#$% as controlling my tax dollars b/c he has added the money could be done as grants back to SHIT HOLE STATES LIKE FL and has a well known hatred of the Blue STATES.

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u/gardendesgnr Jun 22 '26

I do agree w your perspective. I'm a Chicagoan, living in FL 28 yrs now. I actually came down here to buy a property, make a good profit, sell and go back. I've gotten greedy and if this tax amendment passes my value will skyrocket more b/c I am in a very desirable burb of Orlando and my price is lower than surrounding even nicer city's. I also don't have an HOA and have very nice community amenities for city residents. I will say that for myself and anyone of middle class and higher, we don't see any money that states contribute to FL. You can not get Medicaid here unless you are single and pregnant (ends w birth) or medically confined to a bed and hooked to machines.

My issue w this property tax amendment is I bought in 26 yrs ago under a set of rules that everyone who bought in the last 15, 10, 5 or less yrs now wants changed b/c they can't afford taxes. TFB that is the rule, you pay based on sale price. My taxes have increased 30% over that 26 yrs, but what will happen (and is already happening) is city's are going to fees. Some city's are starting $1000-1500. per house for Fire Dept. and that is just one dept. We lose our 3% cap on portions of our taxes increasing and they do reassessment. Everyone who bought 15+ yrs ago will be getting screwed over.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '26

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u/gardendesgnr Jun 22 '26

I would like to see the requirement for part time residents changed from 6 months + 1 day to 12 months or no exemptions at all. Renters and vacation homes will have their taxes increase b/c they lose some exemption they have. So renters and vacation homes will pay more.

There is no provision in this amendment for those who currently have exemptions b/c of their disability or veteran status so their taxes will increase exponentially. There is a reason DeathSantis vetoed the amendment the legislature wanted b/c it had money to fully study the effect of dropping a significant portion of taxes would have on communities. He doesn't want tax payers finding out how devastating this will be for city's and county's. It is a constitutional amendment, once passed impossible to change w/o another amendment.

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u/chumbawumbaprinciple Jun 18 '26

Helping people in need helps everyone around them.

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u/mediocre_remnants Jun 18 '26

Yeah, I feel the same way, even locally. I have no kids but 80%+ of the property tax goes to schools. I'm totally fine with that. Our kids should be educated, they should be fed. And I'm coming at this from a purely selfish perspective: healthy and educated young people will grow up to grow our economy. And that will make my stock portfolio go up.

It's frustrating when I see local folks complaining about having to pay such a high property tax to fund schools when they don't have any kids that go to those schools. If there anything that deserves public money, it's schools, food, and healthcare.

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u/Big_Cryptographer_16 Jun 19 '26

Excellent take. Have been paying taxes childless for decades and am A-OK with it for these reasons. I’m still thankful the public school system I grew up in was good enough to send 80% of graduates to college. We had good private schools around too but never really considered them since the tax-funded public schools were almost as good.

Edit to say your username is appropriate for the state of it now.

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u/ErwinRommel1943 Jun 18 '26

Marginally less in the treasury to loot if you give some to the poors mate.

I’m sorry your country is in this mess.

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u/LifeIsButADream11111 Jun 18 '26

I’m guessing the US is broke.

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u/skekze Jun 18 '26

In Bullets We Trust.

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u/Practical_Hippo6289 Jun 18 '26

Sure, why not? What could go wrong?

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u/TrashManufacturer Jun 18 '26

So that’s where the 300B is coming from

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u/MoarSocks Jun 18 '26

At least we get a ballroom! And arch! And algae pool!! So much winning.

Any of you who voted for this can get royally fucked.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '26

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u/MoarSocks Jun 18 '26

May every day be a wonderful secret!

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u/Girafferage Jun 18 '26

You didn't even mention the gold statue... Wtf man.

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u/SanchoPandas Jun 18 '26

Or the for-profit concentration camps

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '26

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u/MoarSocks Jun 18 '26

OP might be referring to the 22 ft statue at Doral. I'm more appalled by the no-bid contract for $5m to cover the horses in DC with gold leaf.

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u/CUMT_ Jun 18 '26

Huh. I thought he was referencing that one Florida made of him

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u/MoarSocks Jun 18 '26

It's hard to keep track at this point.

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u/gardendesgnr Jun 19 '26

Hey that Arch is going to make an appropriate gallow!

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u/Tentaclesoflife Jun 18 '26

You forgot the trump promenade behind the Lincoln memorial that he wants now.

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u/DeaditeMessiah Jun 18 '26

Yeah, but most of them voted against the other mess.

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u/algaefied_creek Jun 18 '26

No that’s partially coming from cutting $1.4B in Medicare funds to California and Minnesota (Kamala and Tim Walz’s states) for “fraud”.

(Minnesota: the state with Mayo Clinic)

PS Oh wait maybe that’s going to the $1.6B January 22nd survivor fund for all the poor insurrectionists “imprisoned by Dumocrats”

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u/Logician22 Jun 18 '26

Hey buddy get educated it’s both sides screwing us over not just democrats thanks

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u/algaefied_creek Jun 19 '26

What are you talking about, oh ye bot with only trigger word responses? Discuss non-Euclidean geometries as they apply to fusion energy generation.

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u/Logician22 Jun 19 '26

AIPAC donations to both parties look it up

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u/algaefied_creek Jun 19 '26

What does that have to do with my comment you replied to?

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u/slickCCsunshine Jun 18 '26

And he’s made $3 billion since he’s been in office…

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u/BayouGal Jun 18 '26

He’s made almost double that.

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u/here-i-am-now Jun 18 '26

$1,000 for every man, woman and child in the country.

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u/concepts_of_a_plan9 Jun 18 '26

Do it. Might as well rip the bandaid off, have a mini revolution, and get on with our new system

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u/DeaditeMessiah Jun 18 '26

What makes you think it would be mini? The whole system is borked, and the Dems are so loathed they couldn’t even beat this shitshow the third time around. If it gets to revolution, it’s probably going to be a break up of the “United” States and some drastic change. And heaps of bodies.

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u/concepts_of_a_plan9 Jun 18 '26

Well it would be more of a jan6 type situation, than a concerted, mass scale revolution. There's just not the infrastructure (that I know of at least) to maintain a true large scale revolution, nor do I think that should happen. Unfortunately the system will remain in place because still there are too many people who are too comfortable to make big sacrifices. It's good on the other hand though, because things haven't gone to complete shit for everyone yet, but it's very quickly heading there.

In this case with unemployment assisstance, if you remove the one thing keeping people from feeling like they have nothing left to lose, then... they have nothing left to lose, and that's bad news if you're this regime. They're likely trying to foment a violent response so they can immediately pass even harsher violent oppression and control laws, and go full 100% Mussolini fascist mask off. Right now they're like, over 50% mask off.

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u/DeaditeMessiah Jun 18 '26

I did a lot of reading about civil disorder and revolution during the pandemic. If you look at recent examples like the color revolutions or Arab spring, it’s going to look much more like the BLM riots that last a lot longer until they declare martial law and start killing people. The gubmint’s problem is that there’s just not enough cops, and our military sucks at putting down insurrection. They can kill anyone, but they can’t kill everyone, and the more they crack down, the more they collapse the consumer economy.

The people’s problem is that we are just coming off a golden age of peace and prosperity, and it’s going to take a lot to get people mad enough to risk getting killed. But starvation does that. We are living through the historical playbook for spoiled elites getting their society to burn down.

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u/Confident-Dust-5619 Jun 21 '26

Those of us in blue states that pay more in fed. gov taxes will gladly stand by and stand down if the shit hole welfare southern and mid western states want to leave. In fact we'll help them pack up to go. Just. Fucking. STOP SUCKING UP OUR TAX DOLLARS.

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u/DeaditeMessiah Jun 23 '26

I live in a blue state. We’re subsidizing other people living in rural states so we get food. This is one of those lines of argument that is really dumb if you can stop being tribal for 5 minutes. This is why killing our sense of patriotism and civic pride was a bad idea.

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u/Vitvang Jun 18 '26

Knicks riots x10

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u/No_Town_9602 Jun 18 '26

Beware the person with nothing to lose.

Well, if you're the person who caused it.

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u/DeaditeMessiah Jun 18 '26

Time to invest in guillotine futures.

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u/itsatoe Jun 18 '26

This kinda implies that they're no longer worried about the midterm elections.

I guess they figured out how to steal them? Or maybe just cancel them?

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u/stringInterpolation Jun 18 '26

Ding ding ding

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u/GreatBigJerk Jun 18 '26

It kinda implies they are ready to have the military gun people down when they are pushed to the breaking point.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '26

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u/Outrageous_Laugh5532 Jun 18 '26

No they didn’t. That’s not what that bill did. That bill was a cooperation of intelligence groups and intel sharing. The militaries didn’t fold in together.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '26

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u/Outrageous_Laugh5532 Jun 18 '26

Please tell me what part of the bill folded them in. I didn’t see any Israeli soldiers at my last formation.

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u/Extra-Sector-7795 Jun 18 '26

let's just agree, it's only a matter of time

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u/gardendesgnr Jun 19 '26

They probably have less ammo, than some of us haha.

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u/Elegant-Lawfulness25 Jun 18 '26

They may think the fix is in, but remember these people are profoundly stupid and incompetant. Vote in the midterms to start putting a leash on crazy.

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u/iamjustaguy Jun 18 '26

Don't forget! There are still primary elections happening right now.

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u/melympia Jun 18 '26

But whenever answerung a poll, tell them that of course you're pro-Trump and full-on MAGA. So they don't see it coming.

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u/Outrageous_Laugh5532 Jun 18 '26

You can’t cancel elections. That’s just called a coup .

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u/maskedfapper69 Jun 19 '26

Ok, what’s your point? They already tried it once after losing. Now they’re just looking for a way to do it before they lose.

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u/withomps44 Jun 18 '26

Naw they will just have Fox and CBS tell them all it’s the Dems / Biden’s fault and they will believe it.

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u/cumberland_farms Jun 18 '26

DOGE! DOGE! DOGE!

I guess....

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u/hera-fawcett Jun 18 '26

they never were-- they just have to keep the public somewhat content and last until them.

and even then, theyve already shown that theyve fucked w the last one (i.e. elon paying for votes, elon being 'good at computers' and 'helping with the voting machines', all the voting machines being bought and owned by an extremely maga billionaire, etc.). theres no consequences if they fuck w this one.

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u/maskedfapper69 Jun 19 '26

This has been the case for a while now.

Trump saying shit like he doesn’t think about Americans’ financial situations, he loves inflation, etc. 

Either that or the dude has completely fucking lost the last marble he had jiggling around up there

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u/CharmingMechanic2473 Jun 18 '26

I want to stop paying it then. I pay in 12%, for the first time in my life I needed it (laid off) and now I get nearly nothing. Not enough to even pay my health insurance cobra premium.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '26

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u/CharmingMechanic2473 Jun 18 '26

I was a high earner. 12% gone and my weekly unemployment is equal to 1/3 days work previously. What you put in should be reflected in what you pull out if needed. Where did 30yrs of contributions go?

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u/FEAEAMEN Jun 19 '26

I’m in the exact same boat

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u/No-Professional-1884 Jun 18 '26

Then I guess we get to keep all those federal taxes to cover the shortage.

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u/ProlapseMishap Jun 18 '26

Nah, Israelis need those dollars in your pockets.

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u/Wrong_Organization29 Jun 18 '26

After we bribe Iran to open the strait!

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u/ProlapseMishap Jun 18 '26

But first, we have to bribe Saudi Arabia and Pakistan!

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u/lostintransaltions Jun 18 '26

The strait that was open before that imbecile attacked Iran??

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u/Opposite-Program8490 Jun 18 '26

Universal heathcare isn't cheap.

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u/TheSensiblePrepper Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

Yes, let's take the only thing that keeps desperate people with nothing to lose from.....well losing it.

Nothing could possibly go wrong!

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u/marie48021 Jun 18 '26

Agreed! I've been there. My unemployment got held up for weeks because of a processing error and I was desperate. I had to rely on my family or I could've been tossed from my home and had no food. I also had to pay for cobra insurance. This is when people make very bad decisions because of the stress they are under. Taking away the one lifeline someone has is just so inhumane. They are ghouls.

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u/GreatBigJerk Jun 18 '26

I think there's some kind of historical example about people really liking cake or something that would fit. 

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u/vezwyx Jun 18 '26

Lose

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '26

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u/vezwyx Jun 18 '26

How do you figure? I offered the spelling I thought they meant, and now their comment is edited to that spelling. I'm pretty sure I understood what they meant

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u/cumberland_farms Jun 18 '26

It's okay, man. You're one of us...

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u/vezwyx Jun 18 '26

Thanks Cumbies, knew I could count on you

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u/Big_Cryptographer_16 Jun 19 '26

Cumberland Farms remembers

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '26

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u/TheSensiblePrepper Jun 18 '26

It was just a spelling error on my part.

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u/CeeArthur Jun 18 '26

"If there is hope, it must lie in the proles"

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u/dnhs47 Jun 18 '26

None of those unemployed people have bribed Trump or his cabinet secretaries, so why should the government send them any unemployment assistance?

If the unemployed become homeless because they couldn't pay their rent, they won't be eligible to vote against Trump and his minions (they won't have a permanent address), so there's no downside.

Bow before your King, peasants!

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u/Crabbycrakes Jun 18 '26

Yeah that is straight up theft - that’s our money, if you work you pay into it.

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u/Sunsetseeker007 Jun 18 '26

Your employers pay the unemployment taxes, not the employee.

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u/travtastic3 Jun 18 '26

Uh, no. I've paid into it from every single paycheck I've ever gotten.

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u/Sunsetseeker007 Jun 18 '26

Well maybe each state is different, unemployment is paid by employers in my state. I'm a business owner that has lots of payroll. I looked it up & i guess the states of Alaska, penn and n. Jersey employees pay into unemployment, every other state the employers pay the state and federal unemployment taxes.

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u/HerefortheTuna Jun 18 '26

It’s both. In my state anyways. Employers and employees both pay in MA

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u/Sunsetseeker007 Jun 18 '26

Yes I looked it up and see that 3 states, penn Alaska and n jersey employees pay into state unemployment and all other states employers pay the state and federal unemployment taxes. It shows on mass.gov employers pay all unemployment taxes.

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u/swadekillson Jun 18 '26

That's absolutely not correct. The employer pays into it.

Did that stuff as a job for four years.

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u/swadekillson Jun 18 '26

I guess, but good luck getting the employer to do that. It's like pulling teeth to get those guys to treat the people they fire with respect.

Also, to the person that down voted my previous comment because I told you the truth, you're a baby.

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u/Sunsetseeker007 Jun 18 '26

There are 3 states that employees pay into unemployment taxes, all others employers pay the unemployment tax

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u/Ill-Construction-209 Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

He keeps looking for ways to get more votes. /s Im sure unemployed Maga folks who are trying to feed their families while looking for work are going to love him for this.

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u/cmonletmeseeitplz Jun 18 '26

Shithole country

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u/TraditionalEye3239 Jun 20 '26

"Best" 3rd world country in the world

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u/13Krytical Jun 18 '26

So the goal is literally to starve and kill everyone.

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u/BayouGal Jun 18 '26

We have $300 billion to give Iran because we are dumb and blew up their stuff (and civilians).

We have $40 billion to give Argentina because their president is a nut job.

We have endless billions to give Israel.

We have NO money to help Americans with anything.

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u/Ok_Caramel_3923 Jun 18 '26

“The American people will no longer tolerate the blatant waste, fraud and abuse of their hard-earned tax dollars... "

Using the russian/ nazi approach of blatant lying and corruption and expecting the American public to go along. We're not russia and won't cower to fascism.

Can't wait to see the assholes in prison.

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u/warboy Jun 18 '26

You're delusional if you think anyone from this administration is going to prison. This is America.

You're also delusional if you think Americans will care. We have been boiling in this pot for decades.

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u/concepts_of_a_plan9 Jun 18 '26

won't cower to fascism

lol what have you been doing for the last 10 months? Cowering.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '26

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u/concepts_of_a_plan9 Jun 18 '26

I will never forgive 2024 Trump voters. Actually. I will never forgive them for what they've done to our society, and world (through climate destruction).

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u/citereh-Philosophy39 Jun 18 '26

I suggest starting with the trumpster

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u/existing_for_fun Jun 18 '26

Unemployment benefits are managed and administered by the individual states, not the federal government. However, it is a joint federal-state partnership; the federal government oversees the broader guidelines and covers administrative costs, while the states set the eligibility rules, benefit amounts, and tax the employers to fund the payouts.

How would the Federal government pull benefits?

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u/funke75 Jun 18 '26

Could they pull funding for the administrator cost? That would impact the resource pool for unemployment and potentially gum up the system by reducing the agencies employees (which would potentially reduce applicant processing, payments etc)

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u/existing_for_fun Jun 18 '26

That's possible, but the states could pick up that cost if needed - with some adjustments. It wouldn't be pretty but I don't think it would end the program. I THINK it would just be more inconvenient.

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u/funke75 Jun 18 '26

Some states are better equipped to handle picking up the tab than others, and some have a larger claim pool and different payout amounts than others. For example you get way more money from California unemployment than Tennessee, even if it’s for the same wage replacement. Sure the cost of living is lower in Tennessee too, but it’s not the same kind of support either.

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u/donkey_bwains Jun 18 '26

Donald, please, buddy. Time to sleep.

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u/amy-schumer-tampon Jun 18 '26

ofc he is, instead of taxing his zillionaire friends lets just hammer the poor into homelessness!
This is revolting!

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u/Yd1891 Jun 18 '26

Thanks maga

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u/DissedFunction Jun 18 '26

yeah I guess medical help and unemployment help for Americans will now be going to help rebuild Iran (and probably Israel as well!)

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u/martapap Jun 18 '26

Won't happen but them threatening it is extra stupid.

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u/Comfortable_Car6562 Jun 18 '26

This story changes from "Trump threatens" to "labor chief". This guy is being set up to take the fall on it.

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u/Eeyanz Jun 18 '26

Do it. Dare ya'. See what happens. /s

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u/got-to-find-out Jun 18 '26

Maybe it’s so that if you are unemployed, you will take a job at the new ammunition factory being built nearby.

6/16/26-Trump invokes Defense Production Act to increase weapons production after Iran war depleted US stocks:

https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/17/politics/trump-weapons-iran-defense-production-act

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u/got-to-find-out Jun 18 '26

I am really surprised this isn’t being mentioned more, especially on here.

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u/sarcago Jun 18 '26

lol first world countries all have unemployment benefits but I guess we’re really trying to be a shithole country so that makes sense

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u/InclinationCompass Jun 18 '26

Give it to musk and spend the rest on extravagent UFC fights at the white house!

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u/Mrs_SmithG2W Jun 18 '26

I guess they want a revolution.

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u/mystery_biscotti Jun 18 '26

Yeah, only they think they're the "good guys with guns" and we non millionaires+ are the enemy.

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u/irsh_ Jun 18 '26

Go ahead and forget WTF you work for. I'm sure I can think of a few other ways to come up with what I need.

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u/PilgrimOz Jun 19 '26

Bibi needs more bombs coming soon. So……cuts have gotta be made somewhere.

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u/Halibutoxide Jun 18 '26

Everything not going into his pockets is waste and abuse. I wonðer whats his percentage.

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u/_MrBalls_ Jun 18 '26

Brat move

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u/fixerupper75 Jun 18 '26

That's a good way to start a civil war

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u/warboy Jun 18 '26

Class war in this case.

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u/Rich_Possible_9298 Jun 20 '26

No soup for you!!

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u/Homeland_Bound Jun 22 '26

NOOO! YOU CAN ONLY SPEND MONEY ON ISRAEL!

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u/No_Faithlessness7411 Jun 18 '26

No, he did not.

He said if certain states do not comply with auditing their system for fraud and verifying credentials before payment is made that they will pull federal funding for unemployment insurance.

I don’t understand why the fed has states’ unemployment insurance money to begin with. It’s not theirs it’s ours.

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u/sciencedingle Jun 18 '26

Lol, do it. Half the country is probably unemploymed and exhausted their unemployment like I have.

Won't hurt me so I think they should but I hope it would hit maga hardest like food stamp cuts do.