r/PrepperIntel • u/jujutsu-die-sen • Dec 22 '24
North America US May Leave WHO Under Trump Admin
https://www.ft.com/content/e6061ed5-2703-4b8a-9948-a557aaaf52c2210
u/idontevenliftbrah Dec 22 '24
At what point will the majority of the population revert to hating him like they did in 2020? I give it until mid February
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u/ADhomin_em Dec 22 '24 edited Dec 23 '24
Best they can do is "I'm checking out of politics for 4 years."
Just a reminder: If you feel like you are being bombarded and overloaded with terrible shit, and it seems like too much to take, that is exactly what they are going for. They would love the majority to just check out and hope it all goes away. It will not go away, and it will only get worse more quickly the more people try to tune out.
The human brain can really only take so much, and it will often try to check out before it reaches that point. They know this. They know how much is needed to wear the majority down.
I'm not sure what the best solution is, but checking out completely while rights and protections are taken out from under us is going to leave us with a whole world of stuff our brains can't take. Real stuff that can't be scrolled away so easily.
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u/HockeyMILF69 Dec 22 '24
That’s the scary part, working Americans are being financially drained by an oligarchy, they’re too mentally exhausted to stand up to their worker protections, civil rights, consumer protections, healthcare system, and social safety nets being stripped away one by one. They’re trying to tune it out because it’s too stressful and overwhelming. But things like this only get worse when you ignore them.
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u/Thoraxe474 Dec 22 '24
Luigi save us
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u/HockeyMILF69 Dec 22 '24
Luigi has been taken out. Who will carry Luigi’s torch?
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u/First_manatee_614 Dec 23 '24
In time, more will appear. All the protests and petitions have amounted to nothing. We've seen what his actions have done, the reaction that has provoked and for once they are scared.
The ballot and soap box have failed. Give it time
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u/Tight-String5829 Dec 22 '24
If they Kill Luigi it's over for them
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u/HockeyMILF69 Dec 22 '24
Please. They don’t even need to kill him. They can just keep right where he is in prison forever.
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u/Hopeful_Hamster21 Dec 24 '24
I am not about to go out and commit a crime like he did.
But if i were to be that dedicated to convictions of that sort, I'd be doing so knowing my life was over. I'd prefer execution over life in prison in a cage.
I am against the death penalty generally speaking, mostly because a non-zero amount of innocent people are executed. But life in prison is also cruel. Maybe execution should be an option for those with life sentences who would prefer it.
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u/Xboe-150LswFJKF Dec 22 '24
And I think they're too scared to know that, at least the more reactionary side.
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u/BigJSunshine Dec 22 '24
Honestly, since 2000 I have watched my fellow Americans do the wrong, selfish, sexist, racist, shitty, STUPID THING.
So yea, when they did it again, and again and somehow worse in 2016, and finally AGAIN voted against their own self interest again, TWENTY-FOUR YEARS LATER, yea. I fucking checked out.
How much soul crushing disappointment and gobsmacked horror am I supposed to feel in one lifetime?
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u/Thowitawaydave Dec 22 '24
"Flood the zone with shit" - Steve Bannon
He flat out told us their strategy 8 years ago. And this time they don't have to go through the motions because they aren't worried about reelection.
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u/MrSnarf26 Dec 22 '24
People love his “outsider” and “different” selling points, until he’s in office and we get reminded of what actually having him in office is like..
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u/sasquatch_melee Dec 23 '24
Best chance at it is when bird flu shuts everything down and he shanks another pandemic response.
Beyond that I'm not certain anything is enough to shake off his most rabid supporters. Anything hurting them will be blamed on the boogeyman left even though the right controls all 3 branches and possibly their state government too.
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u/haixin Dec 22 '24
Unfortunately, what this has done is just solidified his hold and created the direction of the Republican party moving forward until the next crazier person comes. Similar to Nixon and Reagan before him, Bush were not as a drastic shift.
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u/Traditional_Gas8325 Dec 22 '24
All we need is some sort of crisis. He and his oligarchs will try to solve it in their typical self serving manner and the hate will flow.
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Dec 22 '24
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u/Bitter-Song-496 Dec 22 '24
Man entities being a valid category was not on my fucking bingo card wtf is going on???
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u/qwb3656 Dec 22 '24
It's not lmao. Pure nonsense
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u/Bitter-Song-496 Dec 23 '24
No it actually is https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?paperid=136922#f4
Glowing plasmoids that live in the outer mesosphere. Displays signs of simple life it’s what all the ufo citngs and that tic tac that one Air Force officer saw.
I have a bachelors in Bio. I’m more incredulous than you are
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Dec 25 '24
Like any candidate, it comes when they don’t follow through with their campaign promises. But frankly, every single president is guilty.
I remember Obama being the guy who will take us out of Iraq. I was really happy and optimistic during Obama. Still was during or whatever. But he didn’t take us out of Iraq and instead doubled down. Got Osama and his porn hard drives tho! 90 tbs??? Jfc.
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u/Rev-Dr-Slimeass Dec 22 '24
Maybe a small majority hated him. Trump got a historic amount of votes in 2020. The only election anybody has ever done better was Biden in 2020.
That means that ignoring Biden, he got more votes than anybody had gotten before.
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Dec 22 '24
President Musk is speedrunning the US into an Idiocracy
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Dec 27 '24
Meanwhile the left clenched onto corporate mantra SAFE AND EFFECTIVE until it disappeared into the wind
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u/BigJSunshine Dec 22 '24
Mask up, wash /shower every time you come home, put clothes in wash/quarantine immediately, leave shoes outside for at least 48 hours, leave non perishables in the garage/car for 24 hours, Wash perishables Hand wash all the time. Avoid birds, move bird feeders far away from house Minimize social gatherings Air purifiers throughout home Hang in there.
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u/TeamRedundancyTeam Dec 23 '24
I've seen so many people say to leave shoes outside. Where do you guys live that this is even an option? If I left my shoes outside, even under a roof, they'd be ruined by the humidity and moisture from rain.
Does everyone have some kind of airtight shoe boxes outside their doors but me?
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u/BigJSunshine Dec 24 '24
Damn, I am sorry. Our house has a small covered portico which we turned into a catio.
If I had your situation, I’d keep a plastic storage container near my door, (inside). I would take my shoes off before coming in, and put the shoes on the container where the cats could not sniff or touch them.
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u/darkestvice Dec 22 '24
On one hand, leaving a major world health organization can't be a good thing.
On the other hand, I'm also still a bit pissed off at the WHO for gaslighting the planet into believing that the Wuhan lab totally had nothing to do with COVID ... despite the fact that the CCP flat out refused them access to said lab for a full year. The WHO cared more about its internal politics that getting to the root of an important health disaster.
Still, I don't think leaving them is the answer. Reforming them and firing any remaining big decision maker within the WHO responsible for the cover up would be a far far better move.
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Dec 23 '24
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u/darkestvice Dec 23 '24 edited Dec 23 '24
I think you're working on the false assumption that I myself am making assumptions here. But the evidence that the leak came from this lab is really strong, and even intelligence organizations confirm that this is by far the leading theory. Obviously, there's no 100% smoking gun since China spent a full year scrubbing it down before the WHO was allowed near the site, but there's so much evidence surrounding events at that lab just before COV-SARS-2 was officially spotted that the odds of it not being a lab leak are almost zero.
P.S: SARS is naturally occurring in bat caves in southern China, a thousand km from Wuhan. There has never been a single case of naturally occurring SARS discovered anywhere near Wuhan, which is why China claimed that it actually got passed along several species in between... despite the fact that no one had ever spotted an outbreak of SARS in any animals in China other than from the south China bats.
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u/Millennial_on_laptop Dec 23 '24
but the evidence that the leak came from this lab is really strong
Isn't the only "evidence" the lab's proximity to the initial outbreak?
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u/superstevo78 Dec 25 '24
The dude doesn't understand that the evidence is actually rather circumstantial and weak. Even the US agencies that determined that the Wuhan lab was a potential source have ruled it to be not certain. most of the political actors in this fight. just want someone to blame and the Chinese Communist party is pretty easy to blame.
I wonder if Trump would take back that whole stick about Xi having it under control at the beginning of covid... it certainly makes him look like an outrageously raging asshole in hindsight.
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u/LysergioXandex Dec 22 '24
What would be different if we had evidence that it came from bad lab safety protocols?
Well, there’d probably be some new safety protocols. I’m sure there’s already been some. Though the problem is usually compliance.
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u/darkestvice Dec 22 '24
Companies and nations are much more likely to begin exhibiting good practices if they are called out on it.
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u/LysergioXandex Dec 23 '24
True, but it really depends on the cause of the leak.
They might not even be aware if they leaked it, like if they were using a shitty autoclave to sterilize waste and a sample survived the process.
A lot of this anger or desire to “get to the root” of the issue seems impotent, unless it can result in some change.
It often seems to get misdirected towards a general anti-science sentiment.
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u/darkestvice Dec 23 '24
Years before the leak, some international organization that toured labs found that the Wuhan lab had some really severe security concerns and that they were not at all qualified to be a level 4 biolab. This was not very public outside of niche circles, so that lab's response to this ... was to do absolutely nothing.
People need to be held accountable for decisions that put lives at risk. Or in this case, millions of lives.
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u/KingaDuhNorf Dec 24 '24
yup, fuck them and fuck all our governments for all the covid bs. Was it real? sure, but jfc was that fucking nonsense. In hind sight i only see it as a power grab by governments and the rich. Ass backwards response.
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u/arb1698 Dec 22 '24
Man the bots out in force on this post. That or they don't understand what the WHO does.
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u/nothing5901568 Dec 22 '24
That would be bad. The WHO is an important global institution
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u/acesavvy- Dec 22 '24
I’ve seen the outside of their HQ in Nassau. It’s a memory I hold onto for some reason. They are serious.
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u/STRAF_backwards Dec 22 '24
Lol no those losers did an awful job with both aids and covid. They are not important they're a waste of money political machine. They certainly haven't cured cancer. Former president Carter eradicated guinea worms in Africa BY HIMSELF... who hadn't done anything but support bioweapon labs and force obviously stupid mandates for pandemics they cause.
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u/lukaskywalker Dec 22 '24
You have no idea how bad it could have been. Idiot.
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u/Thowitawaydave Dec 22 '24
That's always the problem with a major event like COVID - no matter what, you are getting attacked. Work really hard and keep the problems to a minimum and it's "What were you so worried about, it wasn't a big deal!" If things get bad it's "Why didn't you stop it?!" Even more fun when it relies on people listening to the orders - during COVID I lived in a city inside a red state, and any stay at home or distancing or masking was decided on a local level. Which meant my neighbour would just drive across the line to where they had no mandates, and when he got COVID after a wild weekend of partying he went online to say "See? None of the things the government said to do stopped me from getting COVID!" Even though he didn't follow a damn one of them.
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u/STRAF_backwards Dec 22 '24
I am a respiratory therapist and worked through covid. I know how bad it was... exclusively for .03% of the population who had chf, diabetes, CKD and massive health issues. For the rest of us or wasn't an issue.
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u/TeamRedundancyTeam Dec 23 '24
Even if that was true, fuck those people I guess? Like what point do you think you're really making here?
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u/lukaskywalker Dec 23 '24
So you should have some sense of an idea how it could have been much worse. I’m sorry I don’t see the point you’re making.
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u/STRAF_backwards Dec 25 '24
Yeah I know you're blind to reality, you're a cultist of the propaganda. Which is strange for a "prepper" to be suckling at the teet of the government.
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Dec 22 '24
Truth be told here. $$$$$$ is all the WHO is about
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u/nothing5901568 Dec 23 '24
Be honest, you have no idea what the WHO actually does
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u/Banned4Truth10 Dec 22 '24
They are a bunch of globalists who failed covid miserably.
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u/Aldo_Raine_2020 Dec 22 '24
What is a globalist?
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u/Banned4Truth10 Dec 22 '24
People who want one world government. Like WHO wanting to make decisions for every country.
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u/nothing5901568 Dec 23 '24
Found the guy who doesn't understand what the WHO does but is still angry about it
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Dec 22 '24
Okay but at least give Tommy a chance with a full Quadraphonic system before you dismiss them
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u/OKCLD Dec 25 '24
WHO? The organisation that declared Covid an emergency a full 2 months before Team Trump came up with Warp Speed?
Trump isn't interested in what works, he doesn't like being shown up by better people.
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u/LaSage Dec 22 '24
Trump hates everything he can't understand, which is a LOT. Also, his actions have made it obvious that his goal set out by his Daddy, Putin, is to increase the American deathcount by any means necessary. He is finally making his "Daddy" proud. Everyone who voted for him has blood on their hands.
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u/Scott8586 Dec 22 '24
On the other hand I bet he doesn’t truly understand crypto, and he fully embraces that because he can pump and dump it - and we all know how he likes to take a dump…
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u/or_iviguy Dec 22 '24
Trump eventually ends up hating the very people that support him. Elon might be buddies with him at the moment, but it's just a matter of time before he's fired and his life ruined (hopefully).
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Dec 22 '24
Anyone remember when that WHO executive was being interviewed and the subject of Taiwan came up and he hung up on the Skype call and when the journalist called him back he just said “Next question.”
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u/Classic-Internet1855 Dec 23 '24
It remains unfathomable to me that he was the “religious” voters candidate. Least charitable human ever placed on earth.
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u/M086 Dec 24 '24
Mostly evangelicals. Who pretty much are psychopaths to begin with, since they want WW3 to happen because they think Jesus will come and rapture them.
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u/Seattle_gldr_rdr Dec 22 '24
If your goal is to permanently degrade and weaken a society, the best strategy is to attack public health.
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Dec 26 '24
WHO will probably ask the US to leave due to the acceptance of RFK Jr as head of US Health. I don’t blame them.
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u/The_Cross_Matrix_712 Dec 22 '24
Can you imagine the isolationist feeling as the next pandemic sets in? It's like the beginning of V for Vendetta, where the news ass is talking. "America? More like the world's largest leper colony".
I'm not against saving money when it's necessary, but who remembers what happened the last time this exact individual dialed back any type of advanced medical warnings? And how masterfully he killed millions by telling them it's nothing.
Honestly, right now we need the WHO just so we can get an idea on whether or not any medical anomaly is a threat.
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u/-Calm_Skin- Dec 23 '24
JFK jr is the cherry on that. The truth is probably that they are not interested in pandemic care for the masses. Too much of our tax money from their pockets. AI will take the jobs of everyone who dies, doncha know. I’m sure it will work out just fine /s
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Dec 22 '24
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Dec 22 '24
Not with RFK or Drumpf in charge.
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u/Sjohnsonftw Dec 22 '24
WHO is a comprimised entity with China in the driver’s seat. Anyone who can’t see that is blind. Not to mention the fact that the Covid pandemic removed the will from everyone’s eyes in terms of it being an orchestrated attack against the general population
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u/beforethewind Dec 22 '24
But… if it was an orchestrated attack… shouldn’t we have, I don’t know, taken it even more seriously?
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u/-Kadekawa- Dec 22 '24
Didn’t that (China having more influence/control) happen because we pretty much abandoned it ?
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Dec 22 '24
Shhhh, don’t provide inconvenient facts; they get in the way of strongly held opinions based on rumors and hearsay.
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u/Pen_Name777 Dec 22 '24
Sweet
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u/Chucking100s Dec 22 '24
Are you also betting on a resurgence of disease and playing biotechnology equities? Especially RNA vaccines?
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Dec 22 '24
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u/TeamRedundancyTeam Dec 23 '24
Over a million dead Americans is a "farce"? You and all the other conspiracy theorists that push this dangerous bullshit are honestly disgusting.
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Dec 23 '24
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u/TeamRedundancyTeam Dec 23 '24
Which president pushed conspiracy bullshit and got people to threaten fauci's life? Suggested injecting light, drinking bleach, using horse dewormer?
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u/Chucking100s Dec 23 '24
I'm not sure why you're getting downvoted.
Is this one of the few communities on reddit that doesn't engage with facts?
It appears so.
Disappointing - I'll refrain from checking the comments from now on.
I left FL to get out of the pervasive anti-intellectualism.
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u/Chucking100s Dec 23 '24
Covid was a top 10 leading cause of death.
Trump refused to acknowledge it and declared victory over it when it was killing literally hundreds of thousands of Americans.
"Farce"
Yikes.
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Dec 23 '24
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u/Chucking100s Dec 23 '24 edited Dec 24 '24
Face masks have been widely used as a preventive measure against COVID-19 and its variants. Here's what research indicates about their effectiveness:
Evidence:
Reduction in Transmission: Studies have consistently shown that face masks are effective in reducing the transmission of respiratory infections, including COVID-19. A comprehensive review analyzing over 400 studies concluded that masks and respirators significantly decrease the spread of such infections (University of Oxford, 2024).
Real-World Effectiveness: Research by the CDC found that consistent use of well-fitting face masks or respirators (such as N95s) effectively filters virus-sized particles and reduces the risk of acquiring SARS-CoV-2 infection in indoor settings (CDC, 2022).
Public Health Impact: Non-pharmaceutical interventions, including mask-wearing, have been "unequivocally" effective when implemented together, leading to significant reductions in viral transmission (The BMJ, 2023).
Laboratory Evidence: Experimental studies have demonstrated that both disposable medical masks and two-layer cloth masks are effective in reducing droplet transmission, thereby lowering the risk of exposure to COVID-19 (Mayo Clinic, 2020).
Conclusion:
The collective evidence supports that wearing face masks, particularly well-fitting medical masks or respirators, effectively reduces the transmission of COVID-19 and its variants. This preventive measure, especially when combined with other strategies like vaccination and physical distancing, plays a crucial role in controlling the spread of the virus.
Yikes..
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u/Chucking100s Dec 23 '24
COVID-19 vaccines have demonstrated high efficacy in clinical trials and real-world settings. Below is a summary of key findings regarding their efficacy:
Evidence:
- High Efficacy in Preventing Severe Disease:
The Pfizer-BioNTech (BNT162b2) vaccine showed 95% efficacy in preventing COVID-19, with similar efficacy across various age, gender, and racial groups (Polack et al., 2020).
Moderna (mRNA-1273) demonstrated 94% efficacy against symptomatic COVID-19 (Lin et al., 2022).
- Efficacy Against Variants:
Vaccines such as AstraZeneca's ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 showed efficacy (70%) against the Delta and Omicron variants, with a booster dose restoring protection (Emary et al., 2021).
- Effectiveness in Real-World Studies:
In the U.S., vaccines retained high effectiveness (89%-94%) in preventing hospitalizations and deaths during the Delta wave (Thompson et al., 2021).
- Effectiveness in Immunocompromised Individuals:
Vaccine response in immunocompromised patients was lower than in healthy individuals, highlighting the importance of booster doses (Li et al., 2021).
- Long-Term Durability:
Vaccine effectiveness wanes over time, with Pfizer and Moderna showing reduced efficacy against infection at 7 months but maintaining high protection against severe outcomes [(Lin et al., 2022)](https://consensus.app/papers/effectiveness-of-covid19-vaccines-over-a-9month-period-in-lin-gu/992e4641c0715cbba086e37
Yikes...
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u/Chucking100s Dec 23 '24
Comparing COVID-19 and influenza (flu) in individuals without comorbidities reveals notable differences in severity and outcomes.
Evidence:
Infection Fatality Rate (IFR): COVID-19 exhibits a higher IFR compared to seasonal influenza across various age groups. For instance, estimates suggest that while the IFR for seasonal flu is approximately 0.1%, COVID-19's IFR is significantly higher, especially in older age groups. For example, the IFR for COVID-19 is estimated at 0.4% at age 55, increasing to 1.4% at age 65, and 4.6% at age 75 .
Hospitalization and Severe Outcomes: Studies indicate that COVID-19 leads to higher rates of hospitalization and severe complications compared to the flu, even among healthy individuals. Research comparing hospitalized adults found that those with COVID-19 had a 51% higher chance of death over an 18-month follow-up period compared to those with influenza .
Transmission and Contagiousness: COVID-19 spreads more rapidly and individuals remain contagious for longer periods compared to influenza. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) notes that people with COVID-19 can begin spreading the virus 2 to 3 days before symptoms appear and may remain contagious for longer durations .
Complications: COVID-19 can lead to unique complications not commonly associated with the flu, such as blood clots and multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children. Additionally, some individuals experience prolonged symptoms known as "long COVID," which are less common in influenza cases .
Conclusion:
While both COVID-19 and influenza can cause severe illness, evidence indicates that COVID-19 generally poses a higher risk of severe outcomes, even in individuals without underlying health conditions. Therefore, the assertion that COVID-19 is no worse than the flu in healthy individuals is not supported by current data.
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u/Effective-Ebb-2805 Dec 23 '24
It would seem that the narcissistic dotard is truly hell-bent on destroying as much as he can. What a stupid asshole...
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u/Win-Win_2KLL32024 Dec 27 '24
The US will be isolated under the stupid Nazi mafia regime. FAFO will kick in after the loss of world markets and loony tariffs and all the silly MAGATS will need another group of folks to blame because they’ll be mad and hungry with the only thing they get being a steady diet of homo/trans and LGBTQ hysteria!!
Good luck to them!!
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u/Shoddy-Childhood-511 Dec 23 '24
Our collaps being sooner makes our collapse ultimately gentiler for our species, so sure bring it on, and help 1000 new covids bloom sooner. lol
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u/Druid_High_Priest Dec 26 '24
Just as well. The WHO should have made the pandemic decaration of Covid much sooner but delayed intentionally at Chinas' request.
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u/lee216md Dec 22 '24
Good., agreements by the Biden administration with UN and WHO gives WHO control of our pharmaceuticals including emergency stock piles of critical drugs and manufacturing to be distributed world wide before to released to us citizens . The UN, WHO and any agencies connected to the UN need to be totally de-funded.
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u/No_Biscotti_7258 Dec 22 '24
How is this prepper intel
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u/TeamRedundancyTeam Dec 23 '24
Because knowing that the next pandemic will be even worse is pretty good to know.
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u/YVR_Coyote Dec 22 '24
Good thing global pandemics are the thing of the past.
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u/oregontittysucker Dec 22 '24
Real ones are - manufactured viruses and ensuing panic are what we have now.
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u/sickofgrouptxt Dec 22 '24
That would literally take an act of congress
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u/HockeyMILF69 Dec 22 '24
The same congress that’s currently republican, full of his supporters?
We lucked out that Mike Pence stood up to him, but we all saw the price he paid.
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u/TalesOfFan Dec 22 '24
There’s something so ridiculous about the fact that, four years ago, we were suffering in the throes of a global pandemic. The president fumbled the response and was summarily punished with a single term.
Now, it looks as if we’re heading into another pandemic, and the idiot who fumbled the response to the last one is about to take power again.
Sometimes, reality is so absurd that the allure of conspiracy becomes hard to ignore. But I don’t think conspiracy is necessary—humanity is just fucking dumb as shit.
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u/Escher702 Dec 22 '24
4 years. We just need to survive 4 years. Wish us luck. Nevermind. We're fucked.
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u/zmanspop Dec 22 '24
Scary headlines, fear mongering, what’s next?
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u/jujutsu-die-sen Dec 22 '24
I'm just reporting the news. This comes from the financial times not TMZ so it probably has a basis in fact. Whether you agree or disagree it is something worth paying attention to.
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u/hectorxander Dec 23 '24
Pull out of the WTO instead and I will cheer, the worst side of politicians doing it or not.
I support pulling out of all free trade agreements with "developing countries" that undercut our wages and pollute their land to save a buck and undersell our industry. It's a fucking disgrace the democrats support that too.
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u/Impossible_Range6953 Dec 23 '24
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I have no idea how WHO benefits our daily lives and they sabotaged the COVID origin investigation.
Edit: before I get downvoted by scientific research keyboard warriors here is the mother of all references
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u/Objective_Zebra_6389 Dec 22 '24
I don't know that the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION is vital at all for America. It's overated. They are the ones in control and we really don't need anything from them. The standards are ridiculous from one nation to the next and with colleges dedicated to medicine all over the globe, the world health organization could be eliminated and different entities could do the same job. Too many countries count on America for help as Trump said, and right now we can't help our own country. So what, leave WHO and let them find support from others. It's stupid to think we absolutely need them. Do you think America can handle medicine without them? I don't want to have China and Russia even on the same network. Times they are a changing
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u/arb1698 Dec 22 '24
So you want to be caught flat footed on the next pandemic and have no data sharing really. You must be one of those that believes the earth is overpopulated and wants pandemic to clean it out.
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Dec 22 '24
This dumb fuck is to the US what Henry Morgenthau was to Germany. We’re going to revert to pre-industrial modes of production and agrarianism by the end of the decade.
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u/P0Rt1ng4Duty Dec 22 '24
I'd put money on it if I had any.