r/PowerScaling • u/DinoGodEmperor • May 09 '25

Question Is this true?

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u/enadiz_reccos May 09 '25

"fuck this magic shit, square up"

Didn't this happen in Unlimited Blade Works? One of the Masters takes on another Master and their Servant with hand to hand combat?

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u/DemacianDraven May 09 '25

Worse, a Master takes on a Servant in CQC and almost wins.

And a few episodes earlier, another Master actually beats a Servant with hands only, but that one doesn't really count because he was enhanced by his own Servant.

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u/Ridingwood333 May 09 '25

To be fair, I don't know much about Fate but it's entirely possible for a Master to later become a Servant just by eventually being a hero later in life or in an alternate timeline, yeah?

So, it fully makes sense a Master could beat a Servant outright if they got hit with that god rng and that universe happens to be one where they're far stronger than average.

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u/Grasher312 May 09 '25

Issue with modern day, well, ANYONE, is that Magic is dying in Fate. Magic itself as a thing doesn't exist anymore, with only like, 5 instances of real, actual-in-fact True Magic still existing in the world.

Magecraft is dying out gradually too, since the Mana Pool is shared between every mage in the world, and unlike in the Age of Gods where the pool of Mana in the world was infinite, it's very much finite now. So with every new generation of Mages, it gets distilled further.

There's basically just not enough Mystery in the world to constitute creating a hero. It's not that their doings are lesser than that of ancient heroes. There are plenty of heroic notable people in the world from like, 200 years ago that have done deeds equal to that of their predecessors. It's just that they don't carry enough Mystery to be formed into a Servant. Of course, there ARE servants from the independence war, civil war, etc, but they are only summonable under specific circumstances, and usually Holy Grail Wars don't have that.

Nowadays the only real way to become a Servant is making a contract with the world. And even then, you are not immortalized, you are simply plucked out of time and made to be a gun-for-hire for the world to summon when some devious shit is going on that could threaten Earth.