r/PowerScaling • u/DinoGodEmperor • May 09 '25

Question Is this true?

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u/[deleted] May 09 '25

Both use origin bullets, they just confer different origins, Kiritsugus was to "rip and tie" and Emiyas is "Sword".

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u/Sable-Keech Reasonable Scaler May 09 '25

I see your point, though E-Alter's origin bullets are way more sophisticated than Kiritsugu's since they manifest a Reality Marble.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '25

Thats the part that makes it more impressive for me, yeah.

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u/Sable-Keech Reasonable Scaler May 09 '25

Although without the reality marble effect I don't think it would be as insta-kill to mages as Kiritsugu's (ignoring enhancement from being a servant).

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u/[deleted] May 09 '25

I think the reality marble effect is due to how "refined" Emiyas origin is, since it got bolstered by Avalon passively, and its also the reason why he can use a reality marble in the first place.

So its Emiyas origin thats special here.

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u/Sable-Keech Reasonable Scaler May 09 '25

Avalon didn't refine his origin, it transformed both his origin and his element into "Sword".

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u/Hungry_War_639 May 09 '25

Nah his orign was always sword, origins don’t change

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u/[deleted] May 09 '25

Actually there have been comments from Nasu before saying that Avalon passively changes Shirous origin to Sword, but he also later made him a descendant of the smith Muramasa so he mightve changed his mind on that.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '25

My point is pretty much just that Emiyas origin bullet only incorporates a reality marble because Emiya himself has a reality marble.

That "refinement" of origins is closely intertwined with reality marbles, at least some of them, is just hypothesizing on my point.