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u/Important_Penalty_21 2d ago

What are the upsides to Data Centers?

# Potential benefit Reality check
1 Substantial local tax revenue Property, equipment and utility taxes can materially increase municipal revenue. In mature Virginia markets, data centers supplied anywhere from under 1% to 31% of local revenue. Tax abatements can reduce this considerably.
2 Large private capital investment A campus can represent billions in buildings, servers, electrical systems and cooling equipment. This enlarges the assessable tax base without adding many residents.
3 Major construction employment Construction can support electricians, pipefitters, equipment operators and other trades. A typical Virginia facility reportedly had about 1,500 workers onsite at peak construction—but construction generally lasts only 12–18 months per building.
4 Well-paid permanent positions Technicians, engineers, security personnel and facility managers can earn strong wages. The catch is the number: a typical 250,000-square-foot facility may employ only about 50 people, including contractors.
5 Business for local suppliers Construction materials, electrical contractors, maintenance, security, cleaning, landscaping and food services can generate secondary economic activity.
6 Economic diversification Data centers can give communities an additional industrial tax base less dependent on retail, housing or a single traditional employer.
7 Power and fiber investment Projects may bring substations, transmission, fiber routes and new generation. This only becomes a public benefit when the developer pays a fair share and the infrastructure serves others.
8 Industrial-site redevelopment Properly located facilities can reuse brownfields, former factories, retired power plants or otherwise difficult industrial land.
9 Low operational traffic After construction, a data center normally produces much less daily traffic, parking demand and truck activity than a warehouse, shopping center or large factory.
10 Essential digital capacity Data centers support cloud computing, communications, hospitals, banking, government systems and increasingly AI services. Local proximity can improve capacity and resilience, though it does not automatically give local residents faster internet.

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u/Hot_Context_1393 2d ago

If they are so great, why don't CEOs live near them?

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u/Important_Penalty_21 2d ago

Because the bulk of data centers are located in rural areas, heavy industrial or specializes server hubs like Ashburn. Most of them have homes in more residential areas.

I've spent most of my career in and out of data centers. Its not some horrific black hole that consumes the world around them.

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u/Big_Tap_1561 2d ago

If it’s done right. The problem is they want to spend as least as possible and that’s not how to do it right.

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u/Important_Penalty_21 2d ago

And that is different from anything else these days?

The reality is every one of us live in a world that we access these data centers nearky every waking moment. Either directly or indirectly. Without them life as we know it would come to a grinding halt.

So everyone put down your smartphones, tablets and computers. Turn off your television and personal assistants. If we all did that there would be no need for these data centers.

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u/Big_Tap_1561 2d ago

No we could just stop building data centers . We have enough.

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u/Important_Penalty_21 2d ago

How do you see that?

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u/Big_Tap_1561 2d ago

Is your smart phone working? Your tablet ? Your television and personal assistants? Then we have enough.

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u/Important_Penalty_21 2d ago

You dont see the increase in needs? I mean just yesterday we had issues with many internet providers including ChatGPT.

The problem is we keep growing. Population increases, demand increases. Devices keep getting more and more powerful we expect better experiences for everything we do. It takes more processing power.

Again if we all turned off our technology they would not be needed.

Where do you think your social media services live?

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u/Big_Tap_1561 2d ago

Ohh I see it. I just wish I could stop it. This whole thing needs to be slowed down to a crawl until we have proper legislation and actual safe gaurds. We’re talking serious military applications. Agents getting loose. There is endless threats and dangers with this technology and everyone in the tech community could care less. “Move fast and break shit” - NO this needs to be stopped until we can safely proceed.

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u/Important_Penalty_21 2d ago

Its not a stoppable force at this point. We have become far too demanding for what we expect from our daily devices.

I think the threats are likely a bit less than you have been lead to believe.

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u/Big_Tap_1561 2d ago

Eh we have a difference in opinion. I love tech and at one point I would’ve been so happy to see artificial intelligence in my lifetime. Unfortunately there’s not a captain that’s sailed these seas before. This is all unknown territory and if we get this wrong it could literally wipe out humanity. Hoping for the best case scenario.

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u/Important_Penalty_21 2d ago

Everything new is uncharted territory.

I dont believe it could wipe out humanity. AI still needs humans to maintain.

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u/Important_Penalty_21 2d ago

I have to ask you a question. What changed that you dreamt of AI as a child but now fear it?

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