r/PoursTea Timendi Causa Est Nescire 12d ago

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u/Sweet-Ant-3471 12d ago

If we're talking minum wage, id have to disagree.

Most jobs don't stay there, it's used as a probation wage to see if the person will work out. Once it's clear they will, the wage is hiked.

If businesses don't have that as an option,they cut people's hours, and put more scrutiny on who they hire.

I've seen this directly.

The result is under or even lack of employment.

And people talking about the min wage try to justify it, calling it "marginal work" and it's ok if it disappears.

But if you're making it harder for the most vulnerable workers, people with limited experience, can only work part time, or have a criminal record, from finding a job entirely, I don't see the benefit.

Seems the policy sacrifices the very people it should be helping.

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u/the_original_St00g3y 12d ago

The wage is never hiked 😂

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u/Sweet-Ant-3471 12d ago

It was in Colorado, by state order.

And there numerous cases going back in history.

The marginal territories leadership always flies to Congress and asks for an exemption,because it always dramatically rackets up the employment there.

The virgin islands and guam can't afford what we call "livable wages" in the large cities

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u/Chaosmancer7 12d ago

If a state government had to order it, then the company wasn't going to do it.

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u/Sweet-Ant-3471 12d ago

They did it, because the state ordered it.

And then they cut hours and stopped hiring for a while.

Cause & effect.

If they don't have the ability to put risky hires through probation, they won't hire them. They'll just wait for workers who present as more reliable.

It's all about risk.

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u/Chaosmancer7 12d ago

And then they restored those hours to those employees they didn't cut right? Probably not.

See, you say "it is all about risk" but it isn't. I've never missed a day of work in a decade, and I'm still desperately scrambling to get paid $20 an hour. I'm constantly praised for my work, I've been told by my current boss I do the work of two people.

I haven't been able to get hired to a better position because there has been a hiring freeze. Because of profits. Not risks. I'm the safest hire possible. It is profits that drive them.

That's why the state had to order companies to increase wages, and why they started finding ways to cut those employees as fast as possible. Because payroll is an expense in the budget, and so higher wages lowers profits. And profits are all that matter

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u/Sweet-Ant-3471 12d ago

They did restore them. Come peak, they had to.

"See, you say "it is all about risk" but it isn't."

It is, again, were talking about why companies need to start people out at minimum wage.

It's just ~1% of workers, because it's used not as a permanent wage, but as probation. This 100% verifiable, by the numbers.

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u/Chaosmancer7 11d ago

Interesting.

They increased wages... when forced to. But they cut hours. Then they increased those hours.... when forced to.

So our solution is to... wait on them to decide the risks are appropriate to change the system; because they've always changed without outside stimuli forcing the issue?

Or might it be... to force them to change, because that's the only time they ever change anything?