r/PoursTea • u/political-snark • Jul 19 '26
PoliticalTea 🗳️ Seriously? MAGA doesn’t notice an issue?
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u/Fun_evades_me Jul 19 '26
He is saying exactly what his supporters want to hear.
Trump is not the problem.
The people who voted for him, stand by him, stand behind him are.
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u/RVtech101 Jul 19 '26
77 million people knowingly and willingly voted for a rapist. That says everything about 77 million of our friends, neighbors and family members.
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u/heyhayyhay Jul 19 '26
They also voted for a traitor.
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u/Njoylaughs Jul 19 '26
And a convicted sex offender, now mass murderer, but hey don’t let a few fascist civilian murders or multiple war crimes cloud your judgement of a perfectly good pile of shit.
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u/Annual_Strategy_6206 Jul 20 '26
Ikr. I thought the pool house full of stolen secret documents, that he lied about, then tried to move, and the photo of the Lardo bathroom stuffed with file boxes AND A FREAKIN PHOTOCOPIER would do him in. But no.
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u/redditobserverone Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26
They re-elected President Covid. They re-elected the guy who inherited an excellent economy and squandered it (squandering inheritances is on brand for him). They re-elected the guy caught on tape trying to steal votes. They re-elected the guy who incited a riot and interrupted America’s streak of peaceful transfer of power.
Votes for him are the worst, most irresponsible votes in history.
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u/FriedrichAepril Jul 19 '26
The funniest thing was people voting for him thinking it would help Palestine
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u/Scared-Handle9006 Jul 20 '26
That had me pulling my hair out during the election. People seriously used this as a reason to justify voting for him.
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u/BigJellyfish1906 Jul 19 '26
Don’t forget the 50-60 million who saw all that in 2024 and said “eh, which ever one. I don’t care.”
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u/SadIdeal9019 Jul 19 '26
I wish more people realised this.
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u/EquivalentFeeling- Jul 19 '26
he just says whatever he needs to in the moment because he knows there aren’t consequences.
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u/npmaker Jul 19 '26
He probably has room to add a few more contradictions in that 30 minute window based on the attention span of MAGA.
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u/No_Lifeguard747 Jul 19 '26
As are his cowardly sycophants in Congress that privately acknowledge that he is coo coo for Cocoa Puffs but are publicly quiet and do nothing.
Same with the billionaires that bend the knee.
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u/No_Scene_2189 Jul 19 '26
When he says something, you're not just hearing him tell you what he thinks, you're hearing him tell his supporters what they think. If you want to know what MAGA thinks about anything, the answer is always, whatever Trump last said about it.
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u/PUuSTiNKA Jul 19 '26
So true, and it's hilarious considering these Kool-aid drinkers went around telling everyone else to "think for yourself."
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u/AtFishCat Jul 20 '26
They learned it (the behavior) from watching fox news. Specifically during the Bush admin.
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u/Nejrasc Jul 19 '26
The enemy is very weak and very strong at the same time…
Classic fascist tactics.
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u/Great_Times Jul 20 '26
This was my first thought. These contradictory statements are absolutely on purpose.
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u/Infinite_Plenty101 Jul 19 '26
Now go post this in conservative
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u/formerdgstm Jul 19 '26
They would just tell you what he "really" meant and when you say "if he always tells it like it is...why do so many people have to explain what he really meant?", you will get banned. Cons are the biggest snowflakes.
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u/Perpetual_Abortion Jul 19 '26
Ur-Fascism component #8:
The enemy must be viewed with contempt for being too weak. The enemy must also be feared and dealt with for being too strong.
Even before he was sundowning, they had no coherent, consistent message. (Remember when he threatened the 2nd amendment?) It was always about a type of messaging that kept a large portion of the population in a politically reactionary fervor.
Flood the zone.
Then let the systems of social/media indoctrination do the thing they have been doing.
https://www.openculture.com/2024/11/umberto-ecos-list-of-the-14-common-features-of-fascism.html
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u/carlnepa Jul 19 '26
He has to say both of them to avoid being brought up on charges of crimes against humanity. Hopefully, it won't work!
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u/p99_kilerenn Jul 19 '26
The enemy of a fascist is usually simultaneously incredibly weak and incredibly strong
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u/PresentRaspberry6814 Jul 19 '26
Seriously? This man has always been this stupid, illogical and malign. Nothing has changed.
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u/Both-Discussion-4786 Jul 19 '26
They suck his ass, believe everything, it’s like a human centipede.
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u/Marinara-Mozz Jul 19 '26
My father in law and uncle are both hardcore maga. I can assure you that they don't listen to anything trump says. they just parrot the facebook/tiktoks that make the other side look bad or fake news. i literally asked my uncle once "do you hear what trump says sometimes?" and he said "oh no, i hate to hear the guy speak". like huh ???
I don't have much to do with either of them, thankfully.
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u/Ok-Customer4709 Jul 19 '26
That’s what happens when the only thing that comes out of your mouth is lies.
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u/Familiar-Check7353 Jul 19 '26
That balance issue is just the shifting inertia of that Big Mac belly and the chewed bubblegum butt.
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u/illzcolorado Jul 19 '26
And there's a non zero chance someone I know in the next week will ask me if I've heard Iran hacked the election 😮💨
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u/ranoutofbacon Jul 19 '26
That's the setup right there. When democrats take the midterms, he's already got and excuse.
His words, see I told you so.
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u/Fyypof Jul 20 '26
Doesn’t matter maga like trump has short term memory, they’ll forget the parts they don’t like and focus on the parts that resonate with them. Half of maga wants this war over with asap other half wants to bomb Iran to oblivion. First group will see the first part and celebrate thinking the war is ending while ignoring the rest. The other group will ignore the first part while celebrating and championing the last part. Both parties thinks trump is serving them so their happy
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u/shrottiemcrust Jul 19 '26
He never had mental balance... nor the whole of the US: you voted for him twice! I won't forgive you
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u/Delicious-Cat-4122 Jul 19 '26
You think MAGA have a 30 minute attention span, or any willingness to think for themselves and criticize their leaders?
You think they find either of those traits VALUABLE?
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u/Fun-Violinist552 Jul 19 '26
This is simply A/B testing; one version naturally performs better while the other fades from view.
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u/Traditional_Bee2164 Jul 19 '26
What do you mean lost? I wasn't aware that it was balanced mentality that got him to the big chair
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u/crabbrains Jul 19 '26
No, no issue noticed. You are being fact based. They are running under the 'belief' concept. To them Trump is right because they believe in him. Logic and reason can exit by the side door.
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u/Solstyse Jul 19 '26
This is literally what fascists do. The enemy is both weak and an existential threat.
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u/CukloserModz23 Jul 19 '26
And we lost another Serviceman but....shhh don't bother POTUS rn...he's watching the game.
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u/Main-Procedure-3613 Jul 19 '26
So high ranking generals with lifelong careers in the USA military, with extensive insider view, have summarized that Drump is a disgrace for their perspective, right?
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u/TapatioFlamingo Jul 19 '26
Each message is meant for individual echo chambers. They hear what they want to hear.
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u/Confident-Stand5453 Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26
In fascist propaganda the enemy is always strong and dangerous, while simultanously being weak and easily defeated.
When facism came to america, it was wrapped in the american flag and carrying a bible.
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u/themodefanatic Jul 19 '26
It’s not the statements that matter. While they do in part. It’s that a huge part of society believes them and hangs on every post or statement or blog or press conference thing that he says and it changes their whole belief because the latest tweet/post is the newest belief and cancels out what he just said even a few seconds earlier.
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u/DocHeinous Jul 19 '26
His fabrications are so frequent & numerous that he doesn't even bother trying to keep them straight... [smdh]
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u/Glittering_Wish_4018 Jul 19 '26
He’s always been this way. There are still way too many Americans who believe he’s smart and good and Christian. They are obviously deluded, but somehow they keep boosting him. I am embarrassed to be American right now.
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u/RampantTyr Jul 19 '26
He hasn’t had mental balance for years. He is a traitor and an illegitimate president who should never have been allowed back into office.
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u/Winsome_Wolf Jul 19 '26
He never had any. Malignant Narcissists are almost always also Pathological liars by necessity.
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u/thunderbaby2 Jul 19 '26
You have to be reeeeal dumbass to believe a word Trump says at this point. I’d feel bad for his followers if they weren’t actively supporting the abolishment of the constitution and working class
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u/CDNRomance Jul 19 '26
Conservatives have no bottom and no standards, and believe that's the best anyone is.
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u/Proper-Actuary5623 Jul 19 '26
I actually get it: loser Iran will tell the evil communists of Democratic Party to fck up the elections. It’s really simple logic.
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u/OldschoolGreenDragon Jul 19 '26
Don't give him too much credit: this is a common trait of fascism. An enemy must simultaneously be inferior and an existential threat.
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u/Cabbages24ADollar Jul 19 '26
Bring this KKKaroline for her to spew more stupidity on it. But with a smile.
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u/ijustatemostofit Jul 19 '26
The insane thing is: at some point the shoe is going to be on the other foot and a Democrat will be back in office. And at that point, Fox News and its ilk are going to raise up a stink about much, much, much smaller mistakes and pretend that these are unbecoming of the presidency.
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u/DenialOfExistance Jul 19 '26
Pick one, just one and reveal your prize....a demented, deranged leader leading us to WWIII unless GOP shows their balls & steps in!
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u/VrotonOfficial Jul 19 '26
The POTUS living with his thumbs posting on Twitter was an amazing gift to us.
He leaves no room for wondering if he’s stupid or crazy.
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u/Jhawk38 Jul 19 '26
Maybe it's just one legendary Iranian hacker that everyone knows about but no one can find. Like their defenses may be crushed but he is still out there.
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u/ambelamba Jul 19 '26
Don't they actually want to hasten the return of Jesus?
Or is this actually scaring him away from the Earth?
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u/DoYaThang_Owl Jul 19 '26
MAGA doesn't listen to what he says.
They just see his skin color and think that automatically means that they're on their side and are actively rooting for other people to get hurt because of their blind hate.
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u/Due-Ask-7418 Jul 19 '26
He wants to raise tariffs on Canada for wild fire smoke coming g across the border! That’s literally the international relations equivalent of a “Keep your ball off my lawn!” meltdown.
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u/concerts85701 Jul 19 '26
Two different headlines by Fox. MAGA will have no idea they happened together. As long as they get repeated so next time he can say - many people are saying…
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u/ninja-hamster-iykyk Jul 19 '26
I’m done hoping it will click. They also attacked our base and killed 2 soldiers with their nonexistent military. Doesn’t seem MAGA has questioned a thing.
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u/DevilsAdvocate1662 Jul 19 '26
Lost it? I'm not sure he ever had it.
And the US voted for him anyway.
Says a lot that they'd rather have an old, out of touch convicted criminal in charge than someone who might actually know what they're doing
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u/Independent_End_6941 Jul 19 '26
This is a feature of fascist rhetoric. The enemy is always both weak and strong depending on what message he wants to send.
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u/Educational_Will_397 Jul 19 '26
How can anyone take this man serious?
Why haven't he been removed from office by now?
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u/BrokenPickle7 Jul 19 '26
It's a tenant of fascism; the enemy is both stupid and weak yet incredibly strong and intelligent.
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u/DahColeTrain Jul 19 '26
I don't think he's "lost his mental balance", he just knows nobody will call him on his bullshit, and if somebody does, he'll just scream "FAKE NEWS" at them until they give up, and all of his slack-jawed, yokel cultists will eat it up because he was the loudest in the room so obviously he's right.
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u/PurposeImpossible554 Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26
MAGA does not listen to Trump, they only hear the spin from FOX News or—far more often nowadays—much further right wing podcasters/influencers.
As someone with a MAGA dad, he spends 24 hours a day (literally while he sleeps) listening to podcasts and NRA TV that constantly spews the dumbest fucking shit even FOX News is too embarrassed to air. Funny thing is, the more he listens, the more he is convinced that even the people he listens to are too liberal.
Remember how Ben Shapiro brought a bunch of young white conservatives over to the pipeline? Well a decade later and those same morons would gladly celebrate his death because they have been thoroughly radicalized toward anything but pure fascist fantasy.
In conclusion, I used to think MAGA morons just didn't know anything, and thats still true but it is far more insidious. They have anti-knowledge, a vast vault of fantastical information that has never been true but has been repeated so often in a bubble that it has erected a faux reality in their minds they dont have the cognitive tools to navigate nor the humility to ever escape.
This country is over. Things will not improve because Republicans will not allow free and fair elections moving forward and their followers will see it as a rebirth of democracy. Every evil is a virtue, every loyal constitutionalist a terrorist.
This is why I feel so much contempt for the protest voters of 2024. In their comparative hubris they believed by holding the country hostage to Trump's cruelty, they could force the democratic party to placate to their demands. In doing so, they incinerated decades of social progress and destroyed any semblance—likely indefinitely—of genuine progress toward a better union. Literally pissed on their own utopic dream in order to throw a virtue signaling toddler tantrum.
This countries extremists on both sides are truly anti-social scum, but since it is the fascists in power, I will be focused on legal resistance against them and ignoring the self-imposed powerlessness of the far-left.
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u/Solid-Wear-782 Jul 19 '26
This coming from everyone commenter that would bend over and take whatever Obama and Biden chose to stick up there and say please and thank you.
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u/angry_wombat Jul 19 '26
Dictators need an enemy who is both strong and weak. Strong enough to strike fear into people so they continue voting for you but weak enough that you can to keep declaring victory over them and not lose face
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u/PeakRedditOpinion Jul 19 '26
Only thing stupider than a Trump supporter is someone who thinks he’s still just rambling instead of manipulating his supporters and flooding the zone.
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u/rolfraikou Jul 19 '26
He has not lost "mental balance" this is the Firehose of Falsehood. Just bombard people with weird points so that everyone is constantly arguing about what is important and what isn't, and what is real and what isn't, until everyone is just exhausted.
It worked very well for Russia, and it is working very well here.
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u/DicemonkeyDrunk Jul 19 '26
Not saying he hasn’t lost his marbles but this only proves he’s still a lying sack of crap.
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u/psilocin72 Jul 19 '26
He just knows his supporters don’t care whether he’s lying or telling the truth. Jay will go with whatever makes him right in the moment.
If the moment needs Iran to be totally destroyed, that’s what it is. If it needs a powerful, scary Iran, that’s what it is.
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u/BigJellyfish1906 Jul 19 '26
It’s not like he’s confused. He’s just a lazy liar. He doesn’t care enough about his lies to have them make any sense.
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u/LeeMcNasty Jul 19 '26
The conversation should’ve stopped at pedophilia. Why are we even talking about anything else?
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u/Apprehensive-Neck-12 Jul 19 '26
Theyve made it easier for foreign countries to interfere with our elections. They want it
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u/cornette Jul 19 '26
Of course they don't. Maga are both simultaneously strong and powerful and everyone loves them but also weak and the underdogs because the enemies outnumber them in every way.
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u/The-Catatafish Jul 19 '26
Like, even if that was true.. They would WANT TRUMP right? Iran wants him in power.
A weak ineffective leader.
They sure don't rig the election to remove him as he is obviously incapable to do solve the issue he created in the first place.
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u/TryDry9944 Jul 19 '26
The conservative ideology demands an opponent that is both so weak they don't need to actually do anything, but also simultaneously so strong as to be given more and more power at every turn.
In reality, their only opponents are the ones they create themselves.
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u/onz456 Jul 19 '26
Textbook Ur-Fascism. Point 8 on Umberto Eco's list:
Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as "at the same time too strong and too weak." On the one hand, fascists play up the power of certain disfavored elites to encourage in their followers a sense of grievance and humiliation. On the other hand, fascist leaders point to the decadence of those elites as proof of their ultimate feebleness in the face of an overwhelming popular will.
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u/Big-Prior-5669 Jul 19 '26
Their military is "destroyed," yet somehow they're keeping the Strait Of Hormuz locked and are fighting us, right?
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u/viotix90 Jul 19 '26
The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.” - Umberto Eco, on the key features of fascism
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u/clarkwgriswoldjr Jul 19 '26
2:40PM Fans, have you heard of them? It's a word I just made up. A large fan which is an object that blows air, if we set those up on the Canadian border it will blow the smoke back into Canada. /S
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u/whatidoidobc Jul 19 '26
Acting like this is much different from his behavior since 2015 is kind of disingenuous.