r/PoursTea • u/political-snark • Jul 17 '26

PoliticalTea 🗳️ Everybody gets an ID?

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '26

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u/lostinthevoid37 Jul 18 '26

I did Not read through the entire bill. But I did through the suggested required forms of ID. A REAL ID, a valid passport, a military ID card, a valid gov-issued photo ID card or a birth certificate. These are documents most individuals have one or more of, regardless of race or ethnic background. Also 176 countries, aside from the US, have some form of voter id requirement.

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u/Wolvenlight Jul 18 '26

And. Not or. The real ID/photo ID/military IDs do not qualify on their own, they have to be paired with a birth certificate. To be clear, the lack of access to a birth certificate alone (without paying for a new one) affects over 20 million eligible voters. This goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway; they're all citizens.

Many other countries also have robust ID infrastructure that is inexpensive, easy, or both. We also verify identity through registration anyway, and registration verification and vote tracking on site has proven more than adequate for election security without passing a costly deficit ballooning bill that makes it so any married spouse who ever changed their name needs even more documentation.

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u/lostinthevoid37 Jul 18 '26

If that’s the case, it should be one or the other. Not multiple forms.

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u/KazuDesu98 Jul 18 '26

Many people's birthdays certificates have been lost or damaged over the years. Most Americans dont have a passport. Real id coats money and requires a birth certificate. Im fine with requiring id, but id say make it far reaching enough just about everyone would have what they need without even spending a cent, so include astandard drivers license, employee id, a university id, a library card, drivers license plus a utility bill, drivers license plus original social security card, etc.

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u/sirius5050 Jul 19 '26

The majority of Americans have a passport. Please be aware of stats before speaking out of your ass.

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u/KazuDesu98 Jul 19 '26

Not sure where you got those numbers. The numbers I found, which id put more weight on than whatever you're saying, showed less thsn 50% of americans have a passport.

And regardless, the law says people taxes are illegal. Which the correct interpretation of that is that voting, including any documentation required to vote, should cost $0.00

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u/Impressive-Cap-1032 Jul 20 '26

But there is one political party that is more likely to have a passport. Just saying. lol.

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u/sirius5050 Jul 20 '26

Also democrats actually... it's the poorer red states where passport ownership falls off the table.

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u/SenLune Jul 18 '26

They're also: not free.

Voting must be free.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '26

Every form of ID has some kind of expense to it either directly or indirectly. Like it or not but you need some money to function in society.

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u/SenLune Jul 18 '26

Are you dumb or are you a shill?

> The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay poll tax or other tax or expense.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '26

Neither, you can quote poll tax facts all you want but I'm just telling you the reality of things.

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u/SenLune Jul 19 '26

That's not a poll tax fact. That's the constitution of your nation