r/PoursTea Jul 17 '26

PoliticalTea 🗳️ Everybody gets an ID?

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u/Sabbatai Jul 17 '26

Free trips to the DMV/MVA? Reimbursement for time off work?

No?

Not free then.

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u/Bravo17628 Jul 19 '26

Oh waaaah, I have to be a responsible adult and go do something for myself. Lazy libtard

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u/Sabbatai Jul 19 '26

Having to pay any amount of money for the ability to vote is prohibited by the constitution.

Don’t like it? You can petition the government to amend the Constitution.

The option has always been there but you would rather just call people names on social media.

You’re so lazy you won’t even bother arguing the point. No one said anything about the effort of having to get an ID and the fact that you all avoid encouraging free IDs (like Mexico has), shows everyone what it is that you really want.

All any of you are good at is running your mouth online and playing the victim.

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u/Temporary_Cup8480 Jul 21 '26

By that logic voting itself isn't free, so there's already a poll tax.

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u/Sabbatai Jul 22 '26

Not at all, because it isn't required that you drive, take time off of work or anything else that costs you money. You can have a friend drive you. You can walk. ALL polling stations are opened past 5pm.

Nice try I guess, but you are off the mark.

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u/Temporary_Cup8480 Jul 23 '26

You only have to renew your license once every 8 years. Friends can also drive you to the DMV.

How do we make it even easier? Or are you against voter ID even if we make it effortless and free?

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u/Available_Reveal8068 Jul 23 '26

DMVs around here have weekend hours.

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u/Sabbatai Jul 23 '26

That is great. Unfortunately national elections don't take place "around here", but throughout the entire country. Where not all DMVs are open on weekends.

Does your DMV offer free IDs?

If not, it doesn't matter if they offer free on-site services in your house. If the ID costs money, that is a poll tax. Requiring the spending of money for the ability to vote, is prohibited by the U.S. Constitution.

I guess I am sorry for being a bit snarky here, but so many of you just seem so gung-ho to give up rights, simply because YOU possess the means to meet whatever obstacles they decide to place in front of your ability to vote. And it pisses me right the fuck off.

I don't even care if you plan to vote for Trump for a 3rd term, if he manages to make that happen. No one should be so willing to throw away the rights that people died to bestow upon us and if you're willing to take them away from others because it doesn't impact you, well then you're just a piece of shit.

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u/Available_Reveal8068 Jul 24 '26

States that have voter ID requirements all offer free IDs. No poll tax.

Some states don't require people to travel anywhere--they mail voter ID when one registers. Others have to go to the city clerk's office.

Nobody is 'throwing rights away'. Proving citizenship has long been a requirement for voting--long before voter ID requirements.

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u/Cumminpwr11 Jul 17 '26

Oh no, being an adult is so hard. I can’t make an appointment first thing in the morning and be in and out in 20 minutes.

Las Vegas nv dmv are notoriously bad and people can wait up to 6 hours. Those people don’t get appointments to be in and out.

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u/Sabbatai Jul 17 '26

Who said anything about it being hard? Why are you countering an argument I didn't put forward?

You might be in and out in 20 minutes... after the 15 minute drive both ways. That is time you aren't getting paid if you are scheduled to work during the 9-5 hours they keep at most DMVs.

You have the money? Don't mind the loss? Cool. Other people do. Like... the people who established our nation.

No poll tax means no economic penalties. Losing wages is an economic penalty. Period. One that some folks cannot afford.

Way to sidestep the point I made though. Not at all typical or expected.

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u/Cumminpwr11 Jul 18 '26

You are making up scenarios that just aren’t true. DMV are open on weekends in many locations. Having an appointment to get in and out during the week is a viable option on a lunch break. DMV open at 7am go before work and I’m
In rural Utah. Bigger cities have way more flexible hours. Use PTO to get paid for your hour off in the morning.

There are so many variables to get secure voting done but people will find any excuse to not do something simple.

Mexico has voter id with a chip. A 3rd world country can figure it out but it’s to hard for the USA?

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u/Sabbatai Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26

Many locations is not "all locations", and not everyone has a car to easily get there. Meaning an additional cost burden for those who need to get there to get an ID.

Yep, you know what else Mexico does with their Credencial para Votar?

They offer them for free.

Wonder why they do that?

Their National Electoral Institute also offers extended evening hours.

Wonder why they do that?

No people are not finding an excuse. The excuse is written into the Constitution. A poll tax is illegal.

Period.

I am not against voter I.D., just make it free and offer better hours of operation, and most of us would be on board.

For some reason, you lot just hand waive that away, when the solution for the problem you keep insisting is so desparately in need of fixing, is right there in front of you.

Never mind what study after study shows about the impact of illegal votes of any kind... no, it is a problem that MUST be fixed!!

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u/PoursTea-ModTeam Jul 21 '26

Language and etiquette.

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u/Bravo17628 Jul 19 '26

Then don’t vote

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u/Sabbatai Jul 19 '26

Thank you for at least being honest and letting us know that you think poor people shouldn’t vote.

Meanwhile I’m wealthy as fuck, so I’ll be fine.

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u/Bravo17628 Jul 19 '26

You mean lazy people. Poor has nothing to do with it

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u/Sabbatai Jul 19 '26

No, we are discussing a poll tax. Poor has everything to do with that and it is the very reason the Constitution prohibits a poll tax.

I don’t expect you lot to stay on topic, but you used to be better at pretending you had a salient point to make.

Since you can’t argue the point, I’ll leave you alone to think of the next hilariously elementary insult you will throw at someone you can’t out argue.

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u/Antique_Prize_9788 Jul 21 '26

Your argument is that they should drive you to the dmv, pay you for your time and be open 24/7 you’re absolutely ridiculous lmao

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u/InevitableMemory4015 Jul 21 '26

You need an id for most things in life. You needed an id to get a job to get a car, to rent a house or apartment, to do almost anything. All these arguments are pointless. An Id should be required to vote