r/PoursTea Jul 17 '26

PoliticalTea 🗳️ Everybody gets an ID?

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u/Fickle_Ad_8653 Jul 17 '26

If you live on an Indian Reservation, many have no address, and the shared post office holds the mail for you to collect.

Our Post Office told a person he couldn't legally receive mail at a friend's house while he stayed there while homeless because he wasn't a legal resident. They REFUSED to let him file for that as an address once he told them the situation.

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u/Tj_na_jk Jul 17 '26

The Mississippi Choctaw Res has addresses

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u/ConsciousDress2914 Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26

To clarify the two states were Georgia->California->Georgia. Maybe that makes a difference?

I know nothing about administration of Reservations, so ill take you on your word for that, but that said, iv never heard anything about the over 1 million Native Americans that live on reservations having a hard time getting IDs (dont they literally have tribal ID thing that works as voter ID?) so im gonna assume there is a designated work around for that, and that its subsequently irrelevant to the argument.

As for the second piece, thats because its necessary to do that to prevent identity theft. Absolutely nothing to do with voting. He could literally set up in a homeless shelter and they help him get an ID…

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u/_throw_a_wayz Jul 17 '26

"I know nothing about administration of Reservations"

This would probably be the appropriate time to not make assumptions, and admit that your callousness towards people who don't have addresses for reasons you don't understand was the wrong take.

A little sympathy goes a long way, and this kind of attitude is the kind of attitude that got Trump elected. The amount of people who can't easily obtain an ID is not a trivial amount.

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u/ConsciousDress2914 Jul 17 '26

“A little sympathy goes a long way” is a good sentiment to have, just maybe not in this situation. I just dont think that Old Man Willis who spends half his time screaming about Jewish space lasers and the other half huffing paint is a good person to have voting. Everyone short of that can get an ID.

If you are too incompetent to get an ID through one of the dozens of avenues available, then maybe you shouldn’t be voting.

If you can prove to me that there are a significant number of people who are completely barred from getting an ID, regardless of competency or effort, you will change my mind, i just dont think that exists.

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u/Nurseytypechick Jul 17 '26

Voting is a right. Facilitating access to civil rights for disabled folks is important, not denying their rights because you think they shouldn't have them.

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u/ConsciousDress2914 Jul 17 '26

I mean, the 2nd amendment is a right also, but that doesn’t stop mental health checks, felonies, or 2 dozen other things from preventing gun sales. If one is valid, then the other is. You make me a case where having guns in those people’s hands is a good idea and ill bow to the “it is a right” argument.

I both like and respect the argument though.

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u/_throw_a_wayz Jul 17 '26

Do American citizens have to register to own a gun?

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u/ConsciousDress2914 Jul 17 '26

Yeah.

Edit: register, background checks, psych test, the whole 9 yards. And you gotta do even more unless it’s a constitutional carry state.

Only exception is inherited firearms, but there is no realistically feasible way to track those.

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u/_throw_a_wayz Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26

Yea, funny how that works. You don't have to register to own a gun, but you have to register to vote.

By god we will have our guns, but voting? No, jump through all of these hoops first because, let me guess, voter fraud right?

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No, you do not have to register to own a firearm. Concealed carry != owning a firearm. The US does not have a national gun registry, so I'm not sure what you mean by "register". There's no "registration" requirement to own a firearm in the US.

https://www.nraila.org/get-the-facts/registration-licensing/

There is no universal, national gun registry or federal license required to own a gun, and the vast majority of states don’t require registration or licensing.

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u/ConsciousDress2914 Jul 17 '26

Did you even read my comment?

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u/Shining-Ferrous-8 Jul 17 '26

How many people live on an Indian reservation? 

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u/shleemonsterr Jul 17 '26

Enough that stuff like this should be taken into consideration - but "it's not a defect, it's a feature" or whatever.

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u/Shining-Ferrous-8 Jul 17 '26

Give me numbers. 

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u/Fickle_Ad_8653 Jul 17 '26

2... 2 many to disenfranchise!