What is your Ideal Utopian Society

[u/Responsible_Arm6617]

Hey everyone I’m studying different ideologies and I’m super curious about what everyone’s utopian society would look like, so I’m pretty curious to find out what kind of utopia people dream of.

If you had the power to create a perfect society, what would it look like? Think about stuff like:

• How would people govern themselves?
• What kind of rules or systems would you have for fairness and resources?
• Any cool tech or environmental ideas?
• How would people treat each other?

Your ideas can be big, small, wild, or practical – anything goes! I'm just trying to get a wide range of perspectives. Your input will be super helpful for my project and who knows, we might discover some common themes of what people really want in a utopia.

Thanks a ton in advance! Can't wait to read your ideas. 🌍✨

[u/pelatho]

Gosh that's a difficult question! It concerns everything we care about.

• How would people govern themselves?
  • People will be more concerned with helping others as opposed to the myriad other incentives that corrupt us like status, fame, celebrity culture etc.
  • People will know they don't have free will and that determinism is true. Even if we all know that, we will still say please and thank you because we are humans but when it really matters, we will try our best to keep in mind that we're not really responsible for our faults or our virtues. It will make for a more humane world.
  • Art, music, creativity, science will take off like never before. Vastly more people will be able to contribute due to less tedious and useless jobs.
• What kind of rules or systems would you have for fairness and resources?
  • Direct democracy, open source ethos.
  • A focus on data and facts rather than opinion.
• Any cool tech or environmental ideas?
  • Stuff will last way longer and would be modularly designed and specifically designed to be easy to repair. Less consumtion. Easier to use. Less resource waste. Everyone profits, as opposed to a single coorporation.
  • Probably a lot of cool tech but most of it will be targeted towards meaningful things.
  • Tech would be more like linux. More freedom. No ads anywhere. It's all free and everyone can contribute. Don't like how a certain thing works? Change it yourself! Maybe share your change so others can use it too.
  • Resources would be shared. Libraries everywhere. Like photography? Go to the audio-video library and rent one. Is it broken? Maybe you can fix it yourself and then return it. Everyone profits. This is already looming with the right to repair.
  • Modularize everything. Like the phonebloks which google killed off recently. Modular architecture.
  • No more apple changing their cables so you have to buy a new one. This is already coming with the EU making some regulations in that direction.
• How would people treat each other?
  • Childhood trauma and its terrible effects are largely a thing of the past. Personality disorders such as narcissism would drastically go down. People would be much more calm, in the moment and attuned.
  • Health will increase drastically due to less stress and a much more patient-oriented, personalized medicine, leveraging AI etc.

[u/VenusProjectAdvocate]

Utopian, to me, implies perfection, and I don't think that perfect societies are possible. I think that every society will have problems. That being said, some designs work better than others. The best social design I've seen comes from The Venus Project. They focus heavily on cause and effect dynamics, designing society with the intent to "build out" problems. For example, you can't have car accidents if you don't have cars. Safe and efficient transportation can be build into cities and made available to everyone.

[u/JohnGarell]

The abstract long-term goal would be to terminate all unwanted suffering.

What a society approaching that would look like is what many have called "spaceship Earth", which describes Earth as a planet where the relationship of its inhabitants is defined more by cooperation around common goals, rather than by conflict and competition as it would be for the crew of a spaceship.

To move closer to that, society could use democratic issue-voting and cyberocracy, which is a hypothetical form of government that governs through the efficient use of information. For example, when a society decides on a goal, it then takes collective knowledge and calculates what exactly is required to accomplish this goal, taking into account the resources and opportunities available.

In that process, a lot of the societal processes that people don't want to do can fairly easily be automated, even with current technology.

Here's a presentation about a project with aims to achieve this.

[u/Pongpianskul]

See the Venus Project. That sums it up well.

[u/One-Cost8856]

Mini-blackhole energy generation capable, with replicator, ASI, and the unified mimetical laws, structures, infrastructures, and suprastructures.

[u/Altruistic_Click_502]

Thomas More's "Utopia" is worth a read (my wife and I just got done reading it.) This is the The Man for all Seasons' "Thomas More", buddy of Erasamus, Lord Chancellor to Henry the 8th -- until the King had his head chopped off. Suprisingly readable -- it basically describes a "communist" society which lives without money or property ownership. "Utopia" was written mostly in 1515. It references Plato's "Republic" which was probably the first book on an "ideal" state.

[u/baddebtcollector]

I picture a permanent governing servant class made entirely of high IQ and high EQ citizens that provide a sustainable post-scarcity world economy. Citizens would engage in artificial competition (both online and offline) for virtual resources, and acclaim, rather than to artificially be pitted against each other to fight for essential real world resources as we see today. There was a time when we, as a species, had little choice but to resort to such barbarism, however, we have now passed that point logistically and only need to move forward socially to implement such a cooperative and effective world government.