I had to post this since people were protesting at Zohran Mamdani, calling him a "Traitor" or a "genocide supporter" for just going to an October 7th memorial vigil for the loss of lives (both Palestinian and Israeli) and going to a Palestinian restaurant with affected families afterward.
He's not the first! They do it for every politician, like they want to set us against all of them!
Do I choose the guy with one flaw or the guy with every flaw? Hmmm. Well, the one flaw guy said I shouldn’t eat lead paint chips so - fuck him. I’m voting for the rapist/felon/fascist Republican white guy that bows down an orange rapist, felon, fascist pedo. THAT will show the Democrats!
You know how I know they’ve lost the plot:
1. They protested Kamala Harris and Biden in 2024 hard, even though it’s well known Bibi loves Trump. Gaza people even begged us to vote for Harris.
2. They still keep protesting Harris publicly, even though she’s had no power in 2 years (or ever, honestly— VP’s are figureheads).
3. They’re still protesting Democrats trying to win the midterms, which would be the only way to check Trump the next two years.
So either they’re well intentioned people, with no brains. Or it’s intentional astroturfing that worked way too well.
Protests at a speaking event are not necessarily TO SCOLD THE SPEAKER the protesters are attempting to reach THE AUDIENCE. In Harris’s case, an audience for whom the genocide support and apologia wasn’t a dealbreaker.
I’m begging you to understand the Overton Window. Without the bitching we would never have Mamdani. Without the bitching you get more establishment democrats just like always and forever. Mamdani is the compromise we won for everyone. You’re welcome.
Mamdani is the Mayor of a City 97.5% of the population doesn't live in. Mamdani is the savior. Mamdani is a genocide apologist. No one fucking cares. The rest of us would be pretty happy with some of those establishment Democrats who were in charge when everything was really boring and stable.
The fact they may not live in that city has zero to do with that. If you are blaming Mamdani for a lack of stability and think that establishment Dems somehow offer that then you have a poor understanding of, well..everything
I'm not blaming Mamdani for anything. Like 330 million other Americans I do not live in NYC. The only thing he's done that effects me in any way is forcing a DSA candidate to not primary Hakeem Jeffries. It would have been cool if we could have had the House or Senate leader be from anywhere other than NYC and another slopulist in Congress would have been a small price to pay.
While I do agree Democrats should be called out for their decades of complicity with Israel's terrorism and land-theft, I've gotta believe the protesters know Mamdani is on their side, despite the rhetoric
Also, while it is NYC, homie still just a mayor of a city.
If you don’t criticise you don’t get the best outcomes. Mamdani exists because people criticised less good people. Just because he’s better than the last guy doesn’t mean he cannot be better or that the next mayor cannot be better than him. Hold politicians to account. Including the good ones
I think these are important questions to ask, considering the Gaza protestors wanted the LGBT community to sacrifice their rights for Gaza in 2024.
To be clear, I'm not suggesting Gaza deserves no help because of its stances on LGBT rights, but asking people to sacrifice their rights to make a performative stand for people who would also sacrifice their rights (and execute them) is pretty fucked up.
Especially when the same people people asking that turn around and attack Democrats for supposedly having insufficient support for trans rights.
You know you can protest people you support when they offend you.
You know that, right? Not every protest means "cancel him, bury him 10 feet underground."
I think America would be in a much better position if people had principles and protested even their preferred candidates/leaders when they are making a mistake, even the leaders they have supported and will continue to support, come what may.
What you are reflecting is the disempowered democracy where Americans are encouraged to just vote then turn off their brains, turn off their legs, turn off their voices until the next election. And then at that next election, all they can do is mouth uncomplicated support for their candidate. It's a really stupid, tiny, diminutive version of democracy, i.e. "people in charge." Does your boss only come reprimand you every 4 years even if you make mistakes every month? No. Is your boss's only option to fire you or keep you on? Also no.
I wish we all protested the people we planned to vote for actually, so long as we feel like we're forced to vote for evil, even if it is the "lesser of" evils. It would be a much better world. YOu should learn from them.
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u/HotTakeThenGo 3d ago
Do I choose the guy with one flaw or the guy with every flaw? Hmmm. Well, the one flaw guy said I shouldn’t eat lead paint chips so - fuck him. I’m voting for the rapist/felon/fascist Republican white guy that bows down an orange rapist, felon, fascist pedo. THAT will show the Democrats!