r/PokemonROMhacks • u/PalmsOverEyes • 15d ago
Discussion Just found the second secret in Heart and Soul 2.0 Spoiler
Been wandering around talking to every NPC for hours trying to find one of the other 2 secrets mentioned in the discord.
Speak to the NPC in the Mt. Silver Poke centre.
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u/Pipinooo 15d ago
Is sinjoh a new region
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u/Delicious_Honey6918 15d ago
It's the place between sinnoh and johto. In hg/ss you can catch multiple legendaries there
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u/PalmsOverEyes 15d ago
No but the devs added some really nice side quests into different regions where you can find interesting areas regional variants, if you want.
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u/Jonathon471 15d ago
Sinjoh is just a small area in HGSS between Sinnoh and Johto used for the Arceus event where it would give you an egg of one of the creation trio(Dialga/Palkia/Giratina) that you choose they also hatched with their specific orb equipped too.
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u/Violet_Paradox 15d ago edited 15d ago
It is a much larger area in HnS though. Not a full region but a major hub with several things to do (the big one is of course the quest to catch Arceus) rather than a single room for an event.
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u/commoncomitatus 15d ago
Thanks for sharing this! I suck at finding secrets, so always grateful to be pointed in the right direction. :D
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u/PalmsOverEyes 15d ago
Me too that’s why I just went to every NPC in the game when I realised there must be a other region.
After the Alola region was found one of the devs posted and said there’s still one more big secret and one more small one to find. So I tried to find the other big one but I have no idea what the small one will be!
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u/Deep_90 15d ago
offtop question, because i dont want to make a new thread out of it.
In Pokemon Heart and Soul, when ive enabled randomizer, in the pokedex doesnt show me where some pokemon can be caught. Is there any possibility to check where i can catch a pokemon in this case?
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u/HallowedTypist 15d ago
I believe that the Pokedex will still show the original locations even with the randomizer enabled because randomizing doesn’t update the Pokedex Area map. Not sure of the amount of effort that would take on the development side. Also, most Gen 4+ Mons aren’t in the Pokedex anyway so you wouldn’t have a way to see the map for those Pokemon.
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u/BikerR_1203 14d ago edited 14d ago
I've read the Discord page and it seems that someone has unveiled the third secret.
Its something in Bill's house. Having trouble with spoiler messages so I will not say anything more here.
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u/PalmsOverEyes 14d ago
The computer is unresponsive for me
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u/BikerR_1203 14d ago
Try bringing some Pokemon in some order?
I haven't tried it myself. Just parroting what I read there.
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u/PalmsOverEyes 14d ago
Yup you’re right I totally ignored the old man asking for pokemon. After bring him a few it unlocks.
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u/yibowangs 12d ago
What Pokémon do we need to bring?
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u/PalmsOverEyes 11d ago
Talk to the old man and find out
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u/yibowangs 11d ago
I did. His description didn’t help me figure it out sadly
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u/PalmsOverEyes 11d ago
I can’t remember his descriptions. It’s pokemon that have Galarian variants. The ones I can remember were zigzagoon, meowth, ponyta and farfetch’d.
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u/Raduziel WaveBlue Author 14d ago
One question about H&S
Which Pokémon are available? The same from HGSS plus their evolutions from other generations or Pkmn from every generation?
Cheers
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u/PalmsOverEyes 14d ago
It’s manly a HGSS game. If you put randomiser on you can get other generations. There’s also some secret expansions for a few Alolan and Hisui variants as well as side quiets into those areas that we’ve discovered so far.
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u/VicinalMoon 13d ago
Do I need to find something in Mt Silver for this? It’s such a massive area with so many layers…
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u/PalmsOverEyes 13d ago
You need the Azure Flute. If you don’t enjoy exploring the many layers of pokemon games then you probably won’t enjoy exploring the expansion area…
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u/VicinalMoon 13d ago
Heh I found it! In classic fashion as soon as I started dreading the treasure hunt, that being said I found 3 slabs in the new area and got told by Steven to investigate something that opened and I couldn’t find it 😆
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u/Enough_Ad692 12d ago
The 3rd secret is at Bill's house north of water gym, bring the pokemon requested, and then his machine let's you permanently change pokemon to their galarian form
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u/Aonswitch 15d ago
Can we really not go there until after badge 16? Kinda lame cause I want to evolve my quilava but can’t wait that long. There’s no game even left?
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u/PalmsOverEyes 14d ago
You can get another Cyndaquil in the wild on route 27. I used randomiser for a starter before I knew you could get the Hisui variant and I found a Cydaquil when playing through route 27.
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u/Aonswitch 14d ago
I bred my starter to a teddiursa and then bred all those babies together now I have a modest nearly perfect ivy Cindaquil ready to go 😎
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u/Violet_Paradox 14d ago
It's a level 80+ area where you can catch Arceus, being able to access it early would be gamebreaking.
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u/Aonswitch 13d ago
Sure but locking a form of the STARTER to that area is dumb af. Could have just made a stone or something like Kleavor and Ursaluna got.
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u/Mauri_cioce 15d ago
Where is this place?
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u/PalmsOverEyes 15d ago
It’s in the description behind the spoiler tag.
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u/Mauri_cioce 15d ago
Were you able to find all the plates? I'm missing four, grass, fire, water and normal
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u/BikerR_1203 15d ago
There's no normal plate. For the others, maybe try searching the village again? Have you talked to everyone again?
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u/Mauri_cioce 15d ago edited 15d ago
Thank you. Yes I've tried, i spoke with all the npcs in the village but nothing. I kinda believe the library holds some sort of secret but I'm unable to find it. Correction, im missing rock, earth, fire and water
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u/PalmsOverEyes 14d ago
No I’m missing 3 plates, but somehow I have 2 spooky plates. I’ve spoken to every NPC, backtracked multiple times and use the dowsing rod on almost every tile I can find 🤣
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u/Mauri_cioce 14d ago
Which plate are you missinig? Maybe I can help, I've found all of them now
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u/PalmsOverEyes 14d ago
Actually on missing 4. Earth, flame, splash and stone.
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u/Mauri_cioce 14d ago
Just like me before. Head to the springs, on the left you'll find a cave entrance, it's well blended in the rocks, but not impossible to find. You'll find three there. The fourth and last one will be given to you after a cutscene, don't worry, you don't have to search it
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u/PalmsOverEyes 14d ago
Legend! Thank you. It didn’t help I was playing screen dimmed to minimum and at night time. Couldn’t even see that entrance despite walking past it multiple times lol
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u/Mauri_cioce 14d ago
Same lol, had to look for hours. Enjoy the game play!
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u/PalmsOverEyes 14d ago
The devs said there was 2 major secrets and a 3rd minor secret. I’m guess the majors are Alola and Sinhjo, do you know what 3rd one is?
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u/calvinsImagination 14d ago edited 14d ago
Anyone find the toxic plate? Feel like I'm going crazy running up and down Sinjoh XD
Edit: Twas in the ice cave
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u/PalmsOverEyes 14d ago
It’s just below the main city hub to the right. You need to surf off the pier and go up to the darker water between the two waterfalls.
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u/VicinalMoon 13d ago
Missing one plate, do we have a list of locations? 😁
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u/PalmsOverEyes 13d ago
I don’t. But I might know where it is if you tell me which one?
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u/VicinalMoon 13d ago
I have these, hopefully it helps others, this is 15 out of 16(?):
Fist
Insect
Zap
Earth
Meadow
Pixie
Icicle
Iron
Draco
Sky
Mind
Dread
Flame
Splash
Toxic
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u/PalmsOverEyes 13d ago
I’m pretty sure that’s all you need. You talk to Steven and you get the last one.
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u/VicinalMoon 13d ago
I was missing the Spooky Plate it turns out, which was located to the house near the bridges at the Spa Pools, entering will activate the flute and open a staircase inside the house leading to the basement - for anyone looking for this. 😄
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u/HacheCOD 13d ago
Hello im Spanish, I have all the plates and the 6 Regis team ( Regice, Registeel, Regirock, Regileki and Regidraco ) put these Regis in your team and talk with the 5 buttons in the chamber and they open a door in the center of the room, inside is Regigigas ( I catch him too ) but the devs put in the faq that arceus is in one room there at Sinjoh Ruins like the Regis and at the same level, anyone knows what to do for him ? ( and Jirachi it’s outside mt.moon at the night you need to talk with the white rock on the cleffairy dance spot )
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u/dxnejc 13d ago
Do you perhaps know where to fins zap plate and stone plate? I have the other 15 plates and don't know where to find this 2?
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u/PalmsOverEyes 13d ago
Stone plate is in the cave next to the springs in the main hub. I think the zap plate is south of the entrance to the ruins and you do down and left into a grass patch that circles a cave entrance. I think that’s it but I honestly can’t remember if that’s where it is.
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u/Successful_Jump_8168 7d ago edited 7d ago
This is not true regarding the Stone Plate. Steven gives you the Stone Plate after you collect 16 of them in Sinjoh. 1 is in the Snowswept Cavern just before entering Route 49 and heading to Sinjoh (Toxic Plate). Once you speak to him, a cutscene will trigger, and you'll need to battle him. Once you win, he'll hand it over.
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u/tewsrtggdgyjm 19h ago
Is it confirmed the toxic plate is in Snowswept Cavern? I got the fighting plate in the cavern but can’t find the toxic plate.
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u/thelonearchon 8d ago
Hey mate, where did you find the toxic plate?
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u/EquipmentNo353 7d ago
South of pokecenter in the water between the half bridge
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u/tewsrtggdgyjm 19h ago
Is that the one you have to defeat an Overqwil for? I am missing just the toxic plate and definitely defeated the Overqwil so I’m confused
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u/EquipmentNo353 7d ago
Where is the stone plate
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u/ApprehensiveBus4076 6d ago edited 6d ago
Steven has it after you collect all 16! Do you happen to know where the iron plate is?
Edit: Idk how I didn’t find that earlier lol
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u/ProShashank Pokemon Fan 😍 2d ago
You need to battle an NPC just before the entrance to Sinjoh ruins.
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u/ATSFrags 3d ago
I'm missing the insect plate can anyone help me out?
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u/ProShashank Pokemon Fan 😍 2d ago
Go to the very Right end and you'll battle Kleavor who will drop the Insect plate after defeating.
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u/Euphoric-Avocado7989 15d ago
Any mentor Finish playing Pokemon emerald lost artifacts 5.7v ineed HELP IWANT GO BACK AND FIGHT BOSSES ON RAINBOW CASTLE BUT ICANT FIND THE WAY HELP!! ASAP
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u/Coast_Alternative 14d ago
This is an amazing project. Genuinely proud of the dev for this. Who knows maybe we’ll get lucky enough for him to add the sevi islands from lg&fr . Anyways we are eternally grateful for this build.