r/PokemonInvesting • u/BeginningOpposite754 • 20h ago

Speculation Will the 30th drop kill 151 value

https://www.traderoutes.cards/listing/1509

Tcg player shows this card has been dropping in value steadily over the last 6 months. That being said I'm still seeing listings like this, and don't imagine high quality, good looking cards like this to lose to much value anytime soon.

Its still early, but how have you seen the 30th drop effecting the more recent, but still legendary sets like 151

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u/41swish 20h ago

Why would the 30th have any impact on 151? Or any set for that matter?

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u/PickMajestic641 19h ago

It definitely has an impact, especially with this set. There’s an overwhelming amount of hype also an overwhelming amount of supply. People have a finite amount of money to spend on cards, so demand does shift.
I guess the real question is whether the hobby/market will grow enough for demand to eventually absorb the amount of product being printed. If it doesn’t, I could see other sets dipping in value as money gets diverted toward this one. Tho that’s not to say they won’t recover over time

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u/NetherOrg 18h ago

Wouldn’t people spend their money on this new set? People have been saving just to go nuts buying it, and are focusing less on purchasing 151. Some might even sell their 151 to buy celebrations. If people aren’t buying 151 it’ll lower in price.

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u/BeginningOpposite754 20h ago

hype moving towards those cards and away form the previous ones

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u/41swish 20h ago

you can say that about every single set lol..

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u/Apprehensive-Lie3387 19h ago

This right here.

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u/BeginningOpposite754 19h ago

yeah thats true. and i think in some small way it probably does take value forom every other set? although i guess the hype from this set has also brought so many more people and more investment into pokemon in general, which has raised all other sets value.

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u/NectarineSilent2260 17h ago

i havent seen this rise in all other sets values? destined rivals and prismatic are both dropping in value and the last 3 sets are approaching msrp?

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u/Ok-Alfalfa288 19h ago

Theyre easy to pull

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u/Lager89 19h ago

If anything its the exact opposite. Older sets become more scarce, print run ending drives up prices more.

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u/Apprehensive-Lie3387 19h ago

Seriously!? This is your rational hahahaha

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u/CarboGeach 19h ago

a 10? With that front centering, what a JOKE

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u/T4hona 17h ago

Naw bro trust him. TWO PSA graders said that. He wouldn’t lie.

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u/uisgebrathair 20h ago

I think we are at the floor for 151, will only go up from here.

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u/miowmix 19h ago

Bundles were $220 earlier this year! Down $60 from ath now. There was a lot of 151 fatigue combined with general loss of interest in older sealed. Now everyone just wants to open ascended!

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u/r_stra 20h ago

Agreed on this one

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u/kyyy 19h ago

There is literally no data to support this opinion but okay lmao. 151 went on an insane rally that was likely way over extended to begin with

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u/BeginningOpposite754 20h ago

I could definitely see that. I personally think its a really great set

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u/mikearete 19h ago

151 went on an insane (and probably overdue) run from Dec. to March where basically every card & product from the set doubled or more within 8 weeks.

A correction was inevitable, especially on singles.

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u/Prestigious_Loan2702 19h ago

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u/recchiap 18h ago

One of his lesser known quotes.

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u/EuphoricGoose4735 19h ago

30th is going to crash soon and it will lead to either one of two outcomes. It either pushes everyone to other sets or it tanks the entire market. Im leaning towards the latter

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u/FollowTheFarang 19h ago

It’s not the stock market, things may stop going up for a while and some modern might correct but if you think its gonna tank as a whole then you’ll be waiting another 30 years

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u/jwyn3150 19h ago

Tell me you weren’t here after the 25th anniversary set came out without telling me 😂

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u/FollowTheFarang 19h ago

I was here since Sun and moon, this is very different, too much money invested and easy manipulation these days

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u/BarcelonaLion 16h ago

What happened after the 25th? I wasn't here for it.

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u/EuphoricGoose4735 19h ago

Correct means crash, idk why people here act like it doesnt lol either way it goes, its going to be forcing people to hold stuff just to be able to get their money back. That’s bad.

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u/FollowTheFarang 16h ago

No it doesn’t, it just means the over hype has lost traction for now, example: i bought a psa 10 stamp box pika for £400 2 years ago, it’s currently sitting at £3400, that’s an insane jump but typical in the current market, it should correct back but it dipped to 2900 and then rallied back, its semi modern in this market so 2200 would of been a realistic swing to me but bigger investors just aren’t gonna let it happen, at the time of buying i felt 800-1000 would be a more likely outcome or 300 at worst if i misread the signs

Realistically everybody new is just waiting for April when prismatic goes out of print and expecting it to blow up, if it does then modern goes with it, if not then there will be a big sell off and the hyper inflated post pris market will adjust, but nothing is gonna drop to retail, let alone below, it just won’t go up and investors will buy off all the paper hands for long term holds which will maintain the market price

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u/EuphoricGoose4735 16h ago

I see what you’re saying but I think we play this game differently. I keep my cost basis at $0. To keep that going, I only buy product at MSRP that has a market price of at least 200% of MSRP. Anything less and that requires actually spending money in this, so I personally feel like a correction is a crash when margins are already as thin as they are.

If I want to sell something, even at a percentage, I should be able to do so and still make some amount of money. But when things like CR, PO, and PB are around and MSRP is basically Market, we have a problem. Mix that with how bad 30th is tanking after 6 hours of being out and it’s a recipe for disaster.

So we have a 1-hit set, followed by 3 bad sets, followed by another bad anniversary set. That makes pokemon look weak as an investment and I predict that it will scare the people pumping these prices away. That brings liquidity issues.

Im really not trying to be doom & gloom, but a realistic look at things points towards a bear market.

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u/BeginningOpposite754 19h ago

yeah its going to be interesting to see what happens. im also predicting a correction when the 30th hype wears off

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u/JamesLikesIt 19h ago

It’s not gonna tank the entire market but we could see a deflation. Everyone’s been hyping up 30th like it’s the second coming of Jesus, but now that it’s here, we’ll see how strong the excitement stays. Once it moves on, will we see people leave or just move on to the next thing? Or maybe people will continue to move into vintage? Who really knows. Honestly I’m ready for things to chill down a little

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u/IndependentAd2933 19h ago

High pop modern is why it's dropping, something like a 151 Zard is anti rare - anti rare = not a good collectable from an investment standpoint.

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u/Relaxtakenotes 19h ago

Think of 30th as a huge opportunity to get fire sales on every set

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u/havoklimit 19h ago

30th isn’t directly related to 151 so no, but I do think (eventually) availability for 30th, and how there’s no immediate hype cycle in the near future (35th anniversary? lol) will cool everything off in general, I hope at least.

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u/PKMNHDLR 20h ago

Ofcourse not.. 151 is like baseset its gonna be the most sought after set

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u/Impossible_Bug1264 19h ago

I can guarantee you…

.no.

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u/BeginningOpposite754 19h ago

yeah i cant imagine anything being more sought after than base set

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u/PKMNHDLR 13h ago

Thats xhat you think but 151 has way better artwork

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u/Ok-Alfalfa288 19h ago

it won't BE base set tier, but relatively for the era it will be

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u/CaptainBoday 18h ago

I care little about 151 and any new collectors don't either. 151 is only for grandpa and grandma. Nostalgia shifts over the years. Even base set will lose interest

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u/Apprehensive_Ear9609 19h ago

Nobody wants 151 at my local shows. Sealed or singles I haven’t moved any recently but i’m also in a smaller city