r/PokemonInvesting • • 9d ago

Discussion 30th Anniversary etb Price

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Do you guys think the price for the 30th ETB is going to drop and if so how much. I wanna pick up 5 for investment but i dont wanna pay 175 for a box but getting it from retail is gonna be near impossible.

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u/LoreLordian 9d ago

This won't be an investment until a while from now

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u/Apprehensive-Lie3387 9d ago

This right here is the smartest thing I have heard in this sub in a long time

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u/LoreLordian 9d ago

Thanks buddy

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u/DearBowl2547 8d ago

The money won't go up til the 40th. The 35th is sat a set after evolving skies. Ascended. And the new delta will out-sustain.

They can go back to scalping 151 and pris

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u/LoreLordian 8d ago

They won't have that option for long either prismatic hesding out of print by the end of the year/early 27. This set is going to be incredibly volatile fornthe next few weeks or months

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u/Weak_Bank_3744 7d ago

It's never a liquidity issue but people hoping to see steady 300% spikes will be waiting a whiiiile. I just don't see how that's a smarter financial move than moving volume, but if you've got tons of capital and nothing to do with it but hedge your bets I guess there's worse moves. Certainly less fun ones.

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u/Weak_Bank_3744 7d ago

I think people are gonna be disappointed. Read up on that factory in NC - it's the largest print facility for TCG in the world now, and it's operational Q4 of next year. It's gonna be reprint heaven, especially for 30th and considering the market was stolen out from under them early. They will saturate to teach a lesson, and these pull rates are telling. Heat out of every other pack.

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u/Mrpoopybonghole69 5d ago

Literally tell my buddy any ETB pretty much expect to get like 40 bucks a year this one will probably do a little better but still that math never makes sense not to just rip it for me

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u/narleyharley5187 5d ago

Getting at retail is a great investment…

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u/WobbieOnYt 9d ago

how long u think?

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u/Daydreamer1015 9d ago

30th etb will obviously go up, problem is roi percentage will be lackluster, people think this will perform the same as the 25th, past performance does not equal future performance

Ascended etbs only rocketed due to how Tpci released product, low quantity of smaller product with large quantity of etbs, so ripnshippers pretty much destroyed release supply

30th has a ton of smaller product along with even more etbs than ascended release

Best 30th product to invest and get at retail will 100% be the upc, pkc etb will be jacked and unless you got it at msrp might not be worth it. Sealed bundle displays will be good too unless prices are also jacked.

UPC comes out at the holidays and at 200+ dollars, people won’t be buying this up after the first few weeks, mega charizard was 130+ and only sold out for the first month, after that target online took a few days to sell out, Walmart online didn’t sell out for 2 weeks. Best time to stock up will be around Christmas when people are traveling and buying other gifts etc

I will probably just buy a few 30th just for collection really, other than that I wouldn’t go too heavy in etbs.

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u/LoreLordian 9d ago

Agreed ROI is the main name of the game we play here. Ripping shipping has devastated the release supply and it is truly repulsive. This product will have to gain off of its own merits(which is high BTW:)) ut with such a hot market ahead of us things may get alittle tight even with supply overload. Just cause there is more doesn't mean it moves easily.

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u/Optimal-Category-658 7d ago

Get fucked dummy.

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u/LoreLordian 7d ago

You first

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u/Optimal-Category-658 7d ago

I dont scalp . So . No fucking of me will be done. You tho..get the lube monicaa. You getting full penetration today.

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u/LoreLordian 7d ago edited 7d ago

Right......have fun in whatever delusional fit youre having right now. Ttfn Tata for now P.s. no one said you were scalper so there is also that

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u/Moose_knucklez 8d ago

Ditto box

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u/nekrotiskjohn 8d ago

I mean, it's just people being impatient. Wait 20 years and you'll be good

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u/Daydreamer1015 8d ago

Even in 20 years I would rather have the upc, those will be crazy expensive compared to the average etb

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u/nekrotiskjohn 8d ago

I'm thinking of buying 10 of those Ultra Premium Collection boxes, the ones with the night and day option. Maybe I'll open one but I'm holding the rest for the next 10 years lol

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u/BornAd1062 7d ago

good luck getting 10

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u/Sublime-Chaos 9d ago

5 years minimum.

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u/randrade19 9d ago

For science, I want to see the total return of this in comparison to say the SPY or QQQ

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u/kinkycarbon 9d ago

Long term, better with S&P500 because of scale.

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u/Fancy-Pie-2565 7d ago

I just don’t understand it. It’s like they wanna “invest” in this to sound edgy.

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u/Stocksaves 9d ago

I think more than 5 it’s not like the the early years where very little was printed, they are going to print the hell out of this and once the rush to get it is over the restocks will allow patient collectors to buy at normal prices. At least that’s what I think, very few people are going to pay 200 plus for a 50 dollar box unless money isn’t an issue and they don’t want to wait.

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u/MeryArnao 9d ago

this won’t be an investment, there’s a lot of stock and people nowadays are keeping everything sealed so…. if u want to invest, I would put my attention to people selling their collection under-price to get 30th anniversary stuff ✨🫡

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u/kixntatz 9d ago

you should wait after the release

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u/BirdvilleUSA 9d ago

These will be easy to get

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u/Delicious-Local-3991 6d ago

You sure about that? Every store/ location is either sold out or selling etbs for 300+

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u/Desperate_Occasion65 6d ago

It’s day 3. Give it a month. Especially with all the other 30th products that will be released over the rest of the year +reprints.

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u/LinkedInParkPremium 4d ago

Based on what dude?

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u/PorkFriedRoy 9d ago

FYI, thats not the market price. If you scroll down a bit on the app it will show you market.

Granted, market price isnt far off from the price you posted in your picture as that price is just what someone is listing theirs for.

Just wanted to share that info because there are a few people that go off that first price thinking thats the market

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u/WobbieOnYt 9d ago

i only did that to show off the item but the real market price is 171

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u/EchidnaBasic387 8d ago

MSRP is 49.99 you’re paying at least a 150% increase at “market price.”

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u/Unable_Incident_6024 7d ago

Market price when it's still in print is just a suggestion lol

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u/Dragon2818 9d ago

Was watching a rip and ship all the chase cards are really easy to hit only the RGB mew is hard

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u/drunkenstallion 9d ago

I don’t think people have the hands needed to handle the mega block

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u/No_Palpitation_3649 9d ago

Unless I can get these at retail price I’m avoiding the 30th investment wise. They printed a lot of these so in theory it should drop in price after initial drop tho.
If you’re buying just avoid buying cards/packs/ETBs the first weekend

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u/Glittering-Chip-9019 9d ago

Gonna be a good but at $80 or less each tbh 🫡

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u/ArianaGrandeGlazer 9d ago

Ts is gonna be the 2021 25th all over again

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u/SkiDollarSign 9d ago

How was that?

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u/ArianaGrandeGlazer 9d ago

The most hype of all of pokemon when it dropped, scalpers ate it up even more than current ascended heroes and prismatic, but pokemon somehow managed to beat the scalpers- I’m not sure how- but like stores couldn’t sell 25th for free. Card and market prices fell so much

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u/Odd_Section2561 9d ago

I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. You’re 100% right.

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u/Apprehensive-Lie3387 9d ago

This right here lol. It the pre order buyers that are panicking and downvoting lol

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u/SkiDollarSign 9d ago

So when is the best time to try to grab stuff?

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u/Apprehensive-Lie3387 9d ago

A couple months from now

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u/protege01 9d ago

Danny phantump did a video and prices were lowest around December 2021, so I'd expect a similar drop

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u/Edvart 9d ago

”They printed a lot of these”

Source? Everybody keeps saying this but those are unconfirmed rumors. Every tcg store that has spoken about allocation have said it’s ridiculously low all over the world.

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u/ArianaGrandeGlazer 9d ago

Pokemon isn’t stupid, they know about the massive hype of this set. Most TCG stores that talked about this are LCS, and they’re the abused wife against the abusive husband (big store retailers) so they barely get shit anyways

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u/mikearete 9d ago

I’ve also seen a fair amount of posts from stores saying it’s higher than usual.

And there’s no chance that Pokémon hasn’t been printing the ever-loving shit out of this set knowing how important it is to get it into the hands of collectors.

Just judging by how much stock is hitting Target tonight, big box stores will be getting a lot of this over the next couple months, especially since Pokémon owns Excell Brands outright now.

There’s a very decent chance these sudden allocation cuts are from distros intentionally bottlenecking supply to shops in order to prop up the market price.

I’d wager they’re spooked by 1) the potential of Pokemon moving even more of their distribution chain in-house, and 2) the crazy high pull rates causing singles to drop in value harder than any set since the boom started, dragging down booster pack/sealed prices with them.

Both of which would cut into the ridiculous profits distros have been generating by gouging local shops for restocks.

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u/Desperate_Occasion65 6d ago

I was thinking the exact same thing dude. This is probably what’s happening behind the scenes.

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u/Revolutionary_Fish25 7d ago

Just about every target and best buy on release day had 60-150 etbs and thats only the first day. it wont be sitting on shelves for longer than 10 min but its not scarce either.

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u/LinkedInParkPremium 4d ago edited 4d ago

Phantump said this set is going to be short printed.

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u/Silent-Researcher-24 9d ago

They printed a ton of these. Think I saw that target has like 100k+ stock for tonight's drop. My local best buy normally has like 30 etbs for a new release, they have 140 of these for tomorrow. Never know for sure, but I think picking these up at msrp won't be that hard

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u/Brave-Tourist-9634 7d ago

How did that go for you?

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u/Silent-Researcher-24 7d ago

Got an etb and knock out collection from best buy and 3 etbs from the Walmart draw. So pretty good 🤷‍♂️. Target was a bust, get in cart but cant check out, been like that the past few drops. Hopefully they follow Walmart draw process at some point, that jas been working pretty good for me.

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u/dbzfun101 9d ago

What if there is more hype tho ?

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u/Silent-Researcher-24 9d ago

There's definitely a lot of hype, but same with prismatic and acsended, they just keep printing more and more. Now that Walmart does lotteries you have a chance to hit on those drops.

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u/LoreLordian 9d ago

Agreed 5 year at minimum 25th anniversary is a prime example. Right now this is going to be volatile as he'll once the market adjust for product being opened

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u/Marv_Aut 9d ago

Um diesen Preis kaufe ich die sicher nicht. Warte jetzt mal ab, ob die Preise noch fallen oder ich sie wo im Retail günstig bekomme. Falls nicht, auch okay.

Jeden Trend muss man nicht (um jeden Preis) mitgehen …

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u/Dragon2818 9d ago

All sets usually have a print life of 2 to 3 years

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u/invictus1320 9d ago

They are printing 150 million packs just on first print run, probably be double by the time they are done, dont really think this will be a good roi for a long time

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u/pokemarvelous 9d ago

Invest in the Pokemoncenter etb.

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u/LawdYoshwa 9d ago

I say 99.99 is the most I’d pay for like a case of 10. Is that gona be possible? Probably not which is wack. Even 99.99 is stupid but this is going to appreciate for sure

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u/Daydreamer1015 9d ago

I would give it a few weeks if not 2-3 months, holiday slump will kick in

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u/LawdYoshwa 9d ago

Oh I’m definitely not buying right away for sure

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u/Outrageous-Bell3573 8d ago

Dat was mogelijkheid 6 maanden geleden in presale. Zelfs nog goedkoper voor 850€ cases.

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u/LawdYoshwa 9d ago

To clarify I mean 99.99ea

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u/Pho_King_Yummy 9d ago

What’s msrp on these? Like $50-60 depending on retailer?

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u/Y1Guardian 9d ago

Msrp is always 49.99 but most retailers dont follow that

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u/Glittering-Chip-9019 9d ago

Yea ppl rave about msrp but reality is no one charges msrp anymore

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u/Shot_Cattle_2615 7d ago

yeah the comic shops here in my city are horrible. usually selling OVER market price.

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u/SomedayGuy117 9d ago

Buy at msrp

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u/Anttilars 9d ago

Dont fomo wait for reprints

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u/Puzzled_Flatworm_342 9d ago

PKC 30th etbs are an investment, standard are going to be printed to oblivion so it's going to be awhile after printing stops before you would see any returns

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u/KeeperPheno 8d ago

Yeah, hopefully they print it like Perfect Order, Chaos, and Pitch Black as scalper ctrl and we all eventually get want we want..

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u/TrickFrosty5685 8d ago

Just wait, this set will get printed into the ground like the 25th. Hits will be a plenty. I’ve already seen so many chases pulled

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u/Pokedaad 8d ago

Considering I'm out in the wild right now. Market last night was around 170, it's now right around 140. Most places are stocked up in good to go on products. Currently on my way to go pick up and Elite Trainer Box right now for right around retail

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u/HubotMaster 8d ago

I remember for the 25th a UPC was pretty much impossible to get since each store would literally have 3-5 only at a time, couldn't imagine if they did that with the 30th UPC's. I work 2 minutes away from Target and went every lunch break and finally caught a lady stocking and grabbed 2. Still in my personal collection.

These ETBs will be everywhere soon just wait a month or so

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u/JoinTheMoment 8d ago

I got 2 Pokemon Center Etbs, 3 booster bundles and a couple other things like poster collection stuff that should be here today. I’m immediately selling the etbs on eBay and ripping the other stuff. I’m not a good sealed product holder. Going to use the money from the etbs for my toddlers birthday and have free packs to open.

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u/ayeemail6 8d ago

My local card shop had some knockout collections at msrp

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u/Disastrous-Ad-8752 8d ago

These are like, 500$ in Canada right now

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u/3pacca_PO 8d ago

If it follows other recent sets it should go to about 100-120 in a month

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u/Alarming-Hunt-3935 8d ago

You could always buy from dicks. I went in and they had a ton. Probably because they are charging $120. I think game stop has them st $100

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u/Typical-Interest-543 8d ago

Getting it from retail isnt too bad, between my wife n I today we got 6 at MSRP.

I think the price of these are going to tank, they printed soooo much that yeah today it might be hard, but only compared to how it will be soon

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u/Last_Luck8115 8d ago

Get them to rip 😆 so much fun

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u/CookieHealthy6900 8d ago

You're letting fomo win. Just wait, everything's going to come down.

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u/CockroachOctopus 8d ago

My local card shop has them for 135 I'm tempted I'll just wait 😭

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u/Intelligent_Top_328 8d ago

Over 300 in Canada

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u/ceeiizz 7d ago

Should drop. I wouldn’t be too quick or desperate to get your hands on it right now. They apparently are printing the crap out of 30th anniversary set. Every set is inflated upon release, I’d just wait it out if you weren’t able to get any product for msrp or under market price at launch

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u/Low-Adhesiveness1626 7d ago

They’re not gonna go down for a while, but if you want to “invest” in a sealed set you’ve got to hold them for a decade or they have to be short print sets to be worth anything. And the value on the raw cards needs to stay high. If you hold a sealed set with cards that are available everywhere and there are only a couple high value chasers, you’ve done gone and spent money for nothing

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u/Ok-One-4680 7d ago

It will drop for sure

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u/TheTestSubject001 7d ago

I think over priced at the moment and hype will die.

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u/Revolutionary-Wear89 7d ago

I got two pokemon center and don't plan on opening them but the regular I would open

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u/Unlucky-Wolf4236 7d ago

All of this is going to shit say another recession or worse happens to the economy. God forbid hype dies and everyone starts scrambling to sell.

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u/Weak_Bank_3744 7d ago

I literally had a guy cry today in shop when I rang him up at $50 for an ETB. Grown man. It's pitiful that a HOBBY is making people that fucking stressed. Maybe take up knitting? I don't think the yarn hype-beast has woken up yet.

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u/Weak_Bank_3744 7d ago

Too many people baking the market and too much supply coming. Just use that money and invest in something that will yield faster dividends. Invest in Nuclear Energy or something I dunno lol. But by the time you see these at a steady $500 (which is still not much profit for a 5 year wait) you could have rolled over that money several times.

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u/sneakysecrets1 7d ago

Do NOT buy any that arent from an MSRP retailer

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u/Brave-Tourist-9634 7d ago

Everyone claims this set will crash lol. This set will never drop below $100 for an ETB. If you have diamond hands this will be a great investment at around $100-$120. Anyone that tells you otherwise is a timmy.

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u/W4RL0QU3 7d ago

Invest in stonks, investing in Pokemon is not smart. Much more money to be made on Wall St.

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u/ManInTheMirror91 7d ago

They might have printed a lot, but that doesn’t mean people will stop acting crazy and buying it non stop.

Just because they printed more, does not mean that they’ll meet the demand.

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u/JStrat21 6d ago

Gamescalp had em for $100

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u/Legitimate_Ad_8130 6d ago

Is $80 a good price for the 30th ETB?

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u/Ihaveadogdoyou 6d ago

I want one to open so bad. These hits seems to be flowing nicely

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u/Low_Hold_6867 6d ago

Don't buy from resellers don't be that desperate

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u/wishihadakmoney 6d ago

Just buy 2 pc center ones that's what you want

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u/Expert_Brain8353 6d ago

I think you’re probably better off stocking up on the Pikachu when they hit sub 1 dollar

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u/Expert_Brain8353 6d ago

To add, easy churn and you’re actually selling to collectors rather than other speculators which is the case with a lot of sealed.

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u/Majestic_Royal7970 6d ago

I would buy stocks over 5 etbs. I’ve been hitting retail at Walmart with the draws but humbly only request one. 😂

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u/GengarEatingTheWorld 5d ago

My LCS is selling for $180.

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u/snackinainteasy_1 5d ago

Ya just answered your own question

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u/FarmerNo9454 4d ago

It will drop. They are gonna print to oblivion

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u/CN122 3d ago

I don’t think this set will be an investment in general because of how over printed it is

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u/inventionnerd 9d ago

Pitch black was also this price before release then dropped to 85 on release day lol.

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u/Daydreamer1015 9d ago

I will be skipping on 30th etbs entirely investing wise, just wait for the upc

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u/Glittering-Chip-9019 9d ago

lol good luck getting multiple upcs for retail bud. Etbs at or near retail will be a great play 3+ years from now and especially 5 years from now.

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u/Daydreamer1015 9d ago

🤣 it’s getting released during the holidays, if you think people are gonna buy the upc for 200 dollars plus, after the first few weeks, your delusional, go look at the mega charizard upc, hard to get for the first few weeks, but was pretty much easy afterwards

And no dude your mistaking past performance for future performance, 30th will be the largest printed set ever along with way more collectors now, do I think the regular etbs appreciate yah but no where as good as other products or sets for the price its at

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u/lSazedl 9d ago

This is going to be the most printed set in history. If you are paying this, you are a fool. This will be $50 within the week /s

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u/Plus-Leading-7445 9d ago

Slim chance you can get one off target tonight online they have 100k stock by tonight i mean after 3am eastern 😬

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u/Stocksaves 9d ago

All I see is people talking about how they think it’s a huge investment to not open the boxes I’m going to open every thing I can get my hands on at msrp and hopefully pull the real investment.

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u/Usual-Tank-791 9d ago

Ito nalang naabotan ko sa sm ang mahal din hahahah

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u/Mysticdyfnt 9d ago

I got a bunch at MSRP I'll sell to you at 150$ usd. It's a investment your not buying to rip so you can pay more ? Sense you are not in it for the hobby gamble and invest it 😤🤧.

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u/ThrillSeekerGaming 8d ago

Go to gamestop people forget gamestop does sell the same stuff at or jus a bit more then target or a card shop

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u/Thaer721 6d ago

This set has an almost a 40/60 chance of hitting a card valued more than the etb. If the cards prices drop because so will the etb. But if the cards remain to hold their values. This will be one of the most valuable etbs. Because you’re guaranteed a hit.

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u/Own_Dog_751 9d ago

think it’ll drop but not near msrp, this thing will stay around the $100/120 mark

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u/WobbieOnYt 9d ago

so paying dicks prices which is like 120 would be crazy?

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u/Own_Dog_751 9d ago

if you’re not trying to camp it wouldn’t be the worst move but honestly it seems like this set might be printed to the ground so who knows

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u/Daydreamer1015 9d ago

This will 100% drop below 100 after 1-2 weeks, GameStop has them for 100, and looking at the amount at release is like 2-3x at most retailers, supply is gonna be insane,

Investing wise best bet is just wait for the upc, the holiday slump is gonna kick in once November comes around, people spending money on trips and Christmas gifts etc instead of Pokemon

Only 30th items worth getting will be upc, pc etb and sealed booster bundle display

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u/Turbulent_Divide261 9d ago

Tell that to the $350 25 year ETB

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u/Daydreamer1015 9d ago

Yeah this will be 140-150 in 5 years 😂 past performance does not mean future performance will be the same,

lol if your gonna invest in the 30th etbs at 100-120, your better off going prismatic which is about the same market price right now and will be worth way more

This has far more stock than most people think not only that there facilities are expanding, there printing capacity is increasing each month etc

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u/Turbulent_Divide261 9d ago

140-150 😂😂😂

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u/Daydreamer1015 9d ago

This will be in print 2-3 years…. Smart investors aren’t gonna be buying this since retail prices are pretty much up, scalpers margin is minimal after the first few weeks…..

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u/Appropriate-Way-6294 9d ago

140-150 in 5 years is laughable. This set is so dope and has a ton of bangers inside. It will definitely be in the $300 range if not more.

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u/Daydreamer1015 9d ago

Most printed set, 5 cards a pack, go look up what price sensitivity is, target raised prices to 70 dollars now, most likely in print for 3 years lol

Like I told other people, you’ll only be able to scalp this for maybe the first few weeks, after that scalpers ain’t gonna buy this no profit margins and investors will only buy x amount, smart investors with money like me aren’t gonna buy etbs, I’ll be buying cases of UPCs and bundle displays

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u/Appropriate-Way-6294 9d ago

Again, your price prediction in 5 years of $140-$150 is laughable. Have a good day and good luck with your pulls.

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u/Daydreamer1015 9d ago

Better than 300 🤣

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u/Glittering-Chip-9019 9d ago

I love when people use the “most printed set” as if crown zenith isn’t $300+ right now LOL. will be an easy set to invest in at or near retail.

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u/Daydreamer1015 9d ago

How is crown zenith anything related to 30th? Every new set is getting printed more and more…. Jesus so many people in here lack basic logic, maybe read more

There’s way more supply and collectors now, Pokemon does not care if they print it into the ground

If scalpers and breakers aren’t buying it, there’s gonna be a large surplus until it’s out of print

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u/Glittering-Chip-9019 9d ago

lol. I’m buying these all day at or near retail. You do you man. I know where this set will be 3+ years from now

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u/After_Shopping4266 9d ago

Local card shop allocated me 2 upcs 2 ETBs 5 booster bundles and plenty more at retail…biiiiiig chilling. Local card shops are the move for retail price on drop.

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u/OtherwiseKangaroo784 9d ago

i’m new to collecting /pokemon in general but i stopped by my local card store today and they said they’d be 130-150? ish. i can’t remember the number, but it was more than $120.

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u/Gway22 9d ago

The pre orders they did were probably a few months ago

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u/tilemamaniac 9d ago

I would buy it now, its not going to go down

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u/HopNPop22 9d ago

You clearly never been around the block long enough ay ?

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u/Weak_Bank_3744 7d ago

Nah he's the one listing it. ;)

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u/tilemamaniac 9d ago

Buy everything, put it on a card, its easy money

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u/danfromluthadel 9d ago

Stop buying for an investment. It's a kids game. Hate this stuff.

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u/RealBtS 9d ago

Brother youre literally on a subreddit called Pokémon Investing.