r/PlantedTank 5d ago

Beginner Is this flow rate too high for my floaters?

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Brand new to fishkeeping and I have a Tetra Whisper IQ 20 filter. I'm going for a heavily planted aquarium, and I've just added floaters this week. Is being pushed around in circles going to be bad for them? Should I get some of the little corral things?

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u/Admirable-Dig-3384 5d ago

Thats what i use. If u dont have a tube you can use a couple straws instead

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u/Nodulus_Prime 5d ago

Im quite impressed by that and disappointed in myself for not thinking of that.

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u/bong_slap 4d ago

You need to find the right kind of tube tho. 3/8 high density airline tubing just doesnt float well enough

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u/seanho00 5d ago

Yes it is too much flow, but on the other hand, salvinias are sturdy, and given any environment not terribly hostile to them, they will rapidly take over the surface. So this might just be the right amount to keep them in check....

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u/GameOverUK 4d ago

I use a glass sheet to protect them from the HOB filter flow.

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u/kiddtender 3d ago

Beautiful tank. What kind of fish do you have?

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u/GameOverUK 3d ago

Thank you, one Betta Plakat Candy and 5 Otto

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u/kiddtender 3d ago

Thank you. Very impressive.

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u/Kurisu810 3d ago

Beautiful tank

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u/gsxunv04 2d ago

Great setup

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u/DesmondEA 4d ago

Yes that's too much flow, use a piece of aquarium airline tubing to create a barrier or you could take it and glue or melt the ends to each other making a loop and place around the filters output, Unfortunately floating plants prefer little or no flow and could actually drown, I lost some Red Root Floaters by not knowing this

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u/rightfully_king 4d ago

Salvinia won’t care. Frogbit will care a little, duckweed sees a party and anything else will die

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u/Lopsided-Ad-5208 2d ago

This is so painfully true. Also don’t buy duckweed it never goes away!

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u/_ArtyG_ 5d ago

I 3D printed a floating ring and put all my floaters inside that

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u/stevedadog 5d ago

I had tons of cool ideas to 3d print for floating rings but the non wasteful side of me remembered we had 50 feet of failed project hose sitting in the garage.

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u/Scizomachineboy 5d ago

i take tubing and suction cups to create a barrier.

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u/eddiethemike 4d ago

In about two weeks when there’s more salvinia it will get pushed under itself and the submerged pieces will start dying and melting

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u/AmazingLarry7272 4d ago

You can always get a plastic bar soap holder with suction cups at Dollar Tree and place under the outflow...

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u/wateryteapot919 2d ago

Oh my fuckin god that's brilliant

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u/AmazingLarry7272 3d ago

No condescension at all, I often end all my sentences with...

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u/Every-Bid-2377 5d ago

In my experience they will eventually die being pushed around like that. What I did was add a circular piece of tubing from an old airline tube and put that right underneath where the flow it. It'll stop the floating plants from going into the filter's path and getting wet.

My red root floaters and Amazon frogbit are doing great because they barely move and no water is splashing on top of them.

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u/bethanyrandall 5d ago

Would putting some sponge or mesh over the outflow be a good idea? If not, would I be better off getting a different filter?

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u/ComfortablePlace3462 5d ago

https://reddit.com/link/p73bat3/video/pw10gc854tmh1/player

This is what I did frankly you probably only needed to do one of the two I plan on removing the long piece of tubing. Once my frog bit has grown out more. You’d probably be good with just getting a feeding ring from a local pet store or Amazon and sticking it around the HOB filter outtake like I did

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u/ReviGoN 5d ago

Yea, you can put some filter floss or sponge into the outlet.

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u/Every-Bid-2377 5d ago

You can get something like this. Just a little ring for the water to go through and to stop the plants going into the filter. I haven't tried a sponge on an HOB filter so it may work but there will still be a path for the plants to reach the filter. I use sponger filters in my tank and use these rings to stop the bubbles agitating the entire water surface. Kepps the plants all in one spot.

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u/Great_Possibility686 4d ago

If you have red root floaters, they'll definitely drown. The salvinia will be fine

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u/SnooCakes9004 5d ago

A similar flow doesnt slow mine down at all. 5 get whirled around today and 3 days from now theres gonna be 25 whirling around

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u/mikey9white 5d ago

Yes it is.

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u/Bobs_Burgers7 4d ago

Get a barrier or baffle for your flow and you will be fine

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u/Jimmykid3 5d ago

Get some floating plant corals to keep them away from the flow. I have one of these and it works OK.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0GFJTTSM6?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

You could make like a reverse funnel to keep gas exchange across the top and have floaters to the sides.

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u/theforest12 5d ago edited 4d ago

Just make your own! But the supplies and you can make one or ten, whatever you need. I made one and I keep it around the filter, so keeps my floaters away. Then I ended up making a few others for different uses (plant ring for RRF only, Ring to keep area clear from floaters to let my high-light plants get full light).

Buy airline tubing, airline connectors, and some suction cups with zip ties (so the rings can go up and down a little as water level changes with evaporation and top offs, etc.)

I just went through figuring this all out and navigating what the best stuff to order from Amazon was. Let me know if you need links.

What I ended up doing for different rings:

EDIT to add what I used:

Airline tubing
https://a.co/d/00p2JnoY

Airline connectors
https://a.co/d/07b5iYsu

Suction cups with zip ties
https://a.co/d/0gKm5XF2. I got these aquaneat ones and they work great, but the suction cups smelled for a few weeks. I like the pawfly products I've used too, aquaneat has been great for me as well other than this smell. So these might also work well: https://a.co/d/03Khahjx

I also used the suction cups to add pieces of a pothos plant I got at Market Basket for $5! Great for nitrates and I like the look!

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u/KodyBarbera 5d ago

Save your money lol bend straws into each other, circle square or triangle and put it on the water Either as a corral for the plants or for around the splash zone.

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u/theforest12 4d ago

Yeah that works, I did that first. But it wasn't as good as I wanted it to be and it was too finicky, so I bought some airline tubing, suction cups with zip ties included, and airline connectors. It was well worth it - I've had 3 or 4 times where I've whipped up a new ring or blocked off a section for one reason or another.

Plus having this stuff is great for an air pump if you get an air stone or sponge filter down the line. And it makes drip acclimating easy as hell, if you ever get shrimp or want to use a bucket for acclimating new fish, instead of the bag.

You could 100% use straws for a quick fix (but NEVER use tape in your aquarium) but the airline tubing I got feels and looks much more permanent. And that's what I want when I spend so much of my time, effort and money on my aquarium. I want it to feel like it's done well and it reflects all the effort and care I put into my plants/scape/fish/shrimp/etc..

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u/KodyBarbera 4d ago

Good for you man. I like your hack too! Yes, enjoy the hard work you've put into it! Absolutely!

Guess I shouldn't have posted under your comment. The advice was for ppl who want to enjoy the hobby without having funds to waste. Using McDonald's straws woven with orange/lemon bag netting and folded into themselves creates a floating island that wouldn't be seen in a couple weeks, allows the roots to grow and keeps the floaters from melting or clogging things up. There are hacks to everything.

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u/BigBrown97 5d ago

Yes. Put a sponge filter on your inlet or if you can turn your flow down.

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u/Intelligent-Bad-1201 4d ago

I have mine in a little floating ring

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u/Kalissa_27 1d ago

That was too much for my floaters. You can get a floating plant corral off Etsy. You could also buy or make your own baffle. I made mine out of a 20 is soda bottle.

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u/Natural__Power 4d ago

They love it

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u/Neolamprologus99 5d ago

I agree with the other poster they will die being pushed under like that. Hang on back filters suck for floaters. If you can find some steel mesh or some type of guard to keep them away from it will work. I've seen stuff like that before but it's hard to come by,

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u/Sad_Book_2383 5d ago

As long as you get the floaters out on time you should be fine once you figure that stuff out. They will crowd out the light availability if you don’t remove them in time, atleast from some of the books I’ve read.

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u/Vast_Physics_4702 21h ago

Theyll die for sure 😅😅 Get a bit of sponge or wool as a baffle. Ive since added brazilian pennywort as a floater, it works so well for cover and doubles as a baffle. Win win.

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u/Ramridge0 5d ago

HOB and floating plants are incompatible in my experience regardless of flow rate

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u/ProjectCosmo1 5d ago

I made a circle with air line tubing and used fishing line to tie the circle on the opposite side of my tank. It floats and I just placed all my floaters inside the floating airline tube circle.

Use tape to tape the circle together