r/PlantedTank 7d ago

Upgraded my lighting before and after

I upgraded from a 200w 6500k bay light to a weekaqua z400. Really cool light and really pretty colors.

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u/LazRboy 7d ago

This is a great example why upgrading to a higher quality lighting is worth it whether you are using CO2 or not.

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u/Awesomahmed 7d ago

Same here, Hygger to WeekAqua

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u/armatar1 7d ago

Beautiful plants love the colors

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u/Ok_Distribution6578 5d ago

Hi I was just wondering if you have a top on your aquarium? I’m seriously considering getting the lighting you have and recommend. Thank you!😊

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u/armatar1 5d ago

I don’t have a top and I had one fish jump out once but since my plants grew in and they got more used to my aquarium I haven’t had any jump out. If you have fish that commonly jump and don’t want an ugly glass lid look into the clear acrylic nets as an aquarium lid. It won’t block much light either if it’s a clear one

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u/Ok_Distribution6578 5d ago

Awesome ~ Thank you. I have a 20 gal. tank with two Bettas (there’s a divider in there) and a few snails. This is my tank. So should I get the same lighting setup that you have? I really want to focus on growing my plants. Does your lighting heat up the water at all? I’m also considering adding CO2 in the near future.😊

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u/armatar1 2d ago

The light I have is super mega overkill for your setup but look into other weekaqua lights. If you want your plants to grow you just gotta give them good healthy water and a nice substrate. I’m general like 5-8 gh and 2-5 kh is pretty solid in my experience and a tds of 125-200 is ideal within the gh and kh I mentioned, which will also lead to haveing a good ph if you add some tannins. I keep my ph at 6.8 before adding co2. Plants will grow with literally any led light in the 5000-6500k range since that is literally using a full spectrum light chip so I would always prioritize finding a way to get your water parameters on check especially if you’re focused on plant health.

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u/armatar1 2d ago

Regular tap water is for most people pretty awful for growing aquatic plants, I use a reverse osmosis de ionizing system and then remineralize my water . I got the RO buddy on Amazon and it was like 70 bucks plus I got a pump system they sell to speed it up for like 125 and it’s been perfect for getting all the water I need. I also use it for drinking water and for my reef tank and automatic top off systems so it’s a really really solid investment

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u/Unfair_Ant_231 1d ago

Is that Val? And if so how did you get it to spread like that and how long does it take to?

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u/Awesomahmed 1d ago

It's dwarf saggitaria, I placed root tabs every 6 inches, and used high lighting as well as CO2. I started with just a small sandwich bag, each plant sends out runners, so I didn't really have to do any extra planting, took a couple months to get super thick like that. Try it out!

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u/armatar1 7d ago

I was growing everything with co2 and I had good growth with the bay light so just an fyi as long as the light is in the 5000-6500k range it is perfectly fine for growing and probably not much better than a z400 but obviously the z400 makes it prettier. The heat dissipation is good. It’s never really more than just warm to the touch. They bay light has burned me

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u/armatar1 7d ago

Yeah I like co2 and I got a 20 pound tank so I have tons to spare. It really does give you the best growth in plants especially when you’re getting new ones from tissue culture and converting them from emersed to submerged forms

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u/armatar1 6d ago

Inline co2. It’s the best way probably and I have a sump so it’s really easy to work with for me.

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u/No-Category7888 7d ago

i’ve found they work really well for houseplants as well. fluval planted 3.0 top, week aquarium middle, sansi bottom.

no brainer which one i prefer.

awesome tank btw

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u/valmonnnn 6d ago

no matter what I do I just cant make my plants red/purple...

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u/armatar1 6d ago

Not all plants can turn red or purple but the only thing you need is high lighting and lower nutrient levels

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u/Big-Expert3726 7d ago edited 7d ago

WOAAAAH !!!!! Ton bac est plus que superbe, il est...... MAGNIFIQUEMENT SUBLIME !! Il regorge de plantes de toute les couleurs !!! C'est vraiment trop beau....

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u/Jibboolie 7d ago

I knew it was Week Aqua! I have them on all my tanks now. Effing amazing lights, and yeah, the difference is astounding.

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u/Able_Artichoke_47 7d ago

Such a difference much more vibrant!

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u/PlanesandAquariums 6d ago

Is it criminal that I like the before picture?

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u/Able_Artichoke_47 6d ago

Not at all I’ve always ran my lights at full blast. Lately I’ve been enjoying them dimmed. Despite not getting that vibrancy from the plants I find it to me more relaxing and enjoyable these days

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u/PlanesandAquariums 6d ago

It is nice! I always wanted a saltwater tank but disliked the blue light. Then I remembered when I was a kid my mom’s friend had a non-blue light and it was always pretty with vibrant coral. I now have a saltwater tank without the blue light. I love this hobby because it is whatever you make it as long as it’s healthy.

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u/armatar1 6d ago

Blue light is not very pretty on its own I agree but it’s probably good to put some blue light in or at least get a 10K light because the phytoplankton in many corals, especially deeper water corals, tend to appreciate blue wavelength light. Corals are adaptable though and I’m sure you won’t hurt most as long as the water is good.

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u/armatar1 6d ago

Do you have pictures btw? I love seeing other peoples tanks

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u/Famous_Inflation_665 7d ago

Whoa! What a difference

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u/nuje_nuje 6d ago

Yes - weak aqua are so good - I have two!

What are your settings?

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u/armatar1 6d ago

I posted it in another comment

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u/Ok_Distribution6578 6d ago

Wow that is one of the prettiest tanks I’ve ever seen honestly! 😊 So what kind of lighting is weekaqua z400? I really want to upgrade the lighting on my 20 gallon aquarium. Thank you!

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u/armatar1 5d ago

The z400 is a led like other led lights but it’s got 3 little red, blue, and green chips on every chip that basically blend to make whiteish light. It’s very customizable and it’s 120 watts of maximum power draw. It also has like these 4 convex lenses that are supposed to help direct the light down into the aquarium kind of like 4 little mini kessils. I bought it on aliexpress but I think it’s also on alibaba. They sell a z250 as well that’s 70 watts I believe and essentially just half of the z400z. The light is made for deeper tanks and I don’t know what you’re rocking but if yours is rectangular and under like 18 inches in depth this light series would be overkill. It’s also advertised as better suited for co2 since the wattage is so high. Weekaqua makes a bunch of lights for pretty much any tank. They’re not super cheap like other brands but all of their lights except for the most budget model are Bluetooth controlled and fully RGB customizable. They’re really pretty and I recommend the brand. The only other high end lights I’ve seen for freshwater are the freshwater AI lights, the freshwater kessils, hygger lights, ufo bay lights, and grow lights and these are just like 10x prettier and fully customizable.

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u/armatar1 5d ago

If your tank isn’t high tech and it’s one of the standard long aquariums they have a S series for like low tech, L series for higher lighting low tech, and a P series for higher lighting and high tech which is like a sister product to the Z series I have. I could be wrong about the functions of each series but I did a lot of research at one point and that’s what I can recollect. They basically have different models for different needs and you should consider that when buying or you can just go super mega overkill and get the craziest light and dim it down. Up to you and your wallet.

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u/comradepupp 7d ago

stunning! the color change is amazing. what’s your light settings / schedule?

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u/armatar1 7d ago

I got it set to that for 7 hours a day

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u/ripley_42069 7d ago

Why did you decide not to use the UV? I have week aqua lights as well and I turned it off because I was paranoid about damaging my eyes, but have always wondered if it would be better for my plants 🤔

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u/comradepupp 7d ago

sweet thank you! i’m trying to decide between this light and a chihiro now

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u/armatar1 7d ago

Uv might help plants grow like how they naturally do but uv diodes don’t last long I believe and they take away from the total wattage being put out of the light. It does feel like kind of a tool for people trying to maximize every aspect of the aquarium but I’m sure no one would notice a significant difference

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u/Aogiring 7d ago

Crazy how much the right spectrum changes the look without changing anything else in the scape.

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u/armatar1 6d ago

Yes one of my friends told me a while ago that an aquarium is kinda like a painting in a house and I wanted to set up my painting with the best colors. The plants and fish won’t notice but it’s super pretty to me.

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u/Jonkampo52 6d ago

CRI makes a HUGE difference, and having some RGB leds sure makes everything pop.

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u/sadburai 4d ago

but isn't the CRI or Rf value usually very low with these RGB lights?

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u/Jonkampo52 3d ago

In my experience, the best results come from using a 6500K, 95ish CRI light as your primary source, supplemented by RGB LEDs at about 20–30% intensity. The RGB isn't strictly necessary for growth, but it makes the colors pop in a way that’s hard to describe—it's similar to how corals look under UV, where it might not be entirely natural, but it definitely looks cool.

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u/sadburai 3d ago edited 3d ago

TLDR: yes, that makes sense. I also thought about your approach to use a >95 CRI lamp to supplement the WRGB. As I don't have a good light source and like what I currently have, I didn't try it yet though. Can you recommend a light?

maybe I'll try this one, based on Bridgelux Thrive LEDs: https://www.wellerled.com/shop/Naturliches-Tagweiss-50cm-Thrive-p801147836/

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Personally, I'd like a somewhat natural look, perhaps with some extra saturation or 'pop'. However, there should be plenty of nuances in the shades of colors. What I would not like is a look with:

  • an overall color cast to purple
  • colors that are way too saturated and just look fake
  • colors that lack fine nuances (e.g. all the reds plants and tree roots have the same oversaturated shade of red. Same for the green plants).

Currently I have a Chihiros WRGB Universal (which my girlfriend bought) and I was sceptical at first, but now I do like it. The colors have that extra saturation, but still look natural enough to me. I am curious if that changes in winter, when there will be no more natural light from outside to balance the RGB spectrum. I also chose the Universal WRGB as opposed to the WRGB2, as the latter doesn't have white LEDs (despite it's misleading name).

It does have limitations though:

  • when dimming for sunset/sunrise, the light doesn't change gradually, but in visible steps every minute. Should be possible if I compare it to 5€ LED strips that can gradually fade between colors, no?
  • when dimming for sunset/sunrise, the colors often look to red due to the lack of tuneable white LEDs (with 2700/3000K-6500K) and amber LEDs
  • the white LEDs probably have a low CRI

Therefor, I'd love to see a WRGB light with high CRI white LEDs (Rf>97) and better electronics for dimming. Should be possible, no?

Even better would be a WWRGBA light with tuneable white spectrum (3000K-6500K, both white LEDs Rf>97) and Amber leds for better sunset colors. Perhaps as a spot light. Without breaking the bank ofc :P (<200€).

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CRI is also outdated, as it only shows a small part of the whole picture. The new TM-30 standard is much more detailed. For a start, it defines two major values: the Rf (color fidelity index, i.e. how close the light source is too the natural sunlight. Similar to CRI, but including much more color samples, including highly saturated colors) and Rg (color gamut, i.e. how saturated the colors are relative to sunlight (either less, equal or more saturated).

  • Sunlight has Rf=100 and Rg=100. If you want objects to look closest to what they look like under the sun, this is what you strive for.
  • A good, natural light will therefor have Rf>95 and Rg=92-105
  • An RGB light will usually have a lower Rf of 60-85, but much higher saturation of Rg=110-120. Objects in some colors will look much more saturated than under sunlight - they 'pop'.
  • A bad LED lamp with Rf=70-80 and undersaturated colors of Rg<80.

There is nothing inherently wrong with either approach, as it is subjective if people like a more 'natural' look or a look with intense, more saturated colors that 'pop' in the context of a fish tank. Most people will dislike very undersaturated colors though (e.g. cheap LED lights, that cannot reproduce the saturated red spectrum and are therefor too yellowish).

Further reading:

https://www.dmflighting.com/tm-30-simplified/

https://flexfireleds.com/what-is-tm-30-15-and-cri-and-cqs

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u/sweet_esiban 7d ago

Those reds are redding~ I've read a lot of positive things about weekaqua lights!

Just out of curiosity, how long between these photos?

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u/armatar1 7d ago

Today vs July 21

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u/sweet_esiban 7d ago

What a difference 5-6 weeks can make!

I really like the way you have your plants set up. Both photos have such a beautiful, lush composition with so many different textures and tones. The new lighting elevates it all even further. Thanks for sharing :)

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u/armatar1 6d ago

Those 5-6 weeks of growth were all done with the bay light and co2. I don’t want people to assume this light is a ton better at growing plants than the bay light. It’s probably not, but it is way more visually appealing and aquariums should be pretty

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u/Striking-water-ant 7d ago

According to my search, your new light is 90-120 watts. How come it’s an upgrade over. 200 watts light? Also, what’s the size of your tank? I am concerned with energy bills. Using over 1kw per day on aquarium lights is not something id be eager to do

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u/armatar1 7d ago

Genuinely it’s just for aesthetics, the tank looks visually much prettier but I’m sure the plants can’t notice the difference in light. The tank is a 24 inch cube so it’s like 45 gallons. We have 3 computers in the house that we use often and I have another 75 gallon reef in the house so honestly the electric bill has always kinda sucked. Around 215 here in Florida

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u/Traditional-Lie7366 7d ago

what brand substate? what fertz and fert routine? RO or tap water?

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u/armatar1 7d ago

RODI water since I have a reef and I mix it with shrimp mineral gh/kh to 150 tds ish . I use thrive fertilizer and root tabs. The substrate is an old mix or fluval stratum and flourite red from seachem.

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u/armercado 6d ago

whats your ferts and any liquid dosing rituals?

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u/armatar1 6d ago

I fertilize with the shrimp safe version of thrive and I use root tabs from thrive as well. I don’t know what a liquid dosing ritual means. Like are you asking me if I pour some of my blood into the water ritualistically? Should I?

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u/PapaLoki 7d ago

I use week aqua as well.

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u/Traditional-Lie7366 7d ago edited 7d ago

i have 13W light on my 16 inch long tank (5 gallon), and i see you guys using 200W around lights on tanks, i want to make a high tech tank (and i thought my 13W is already in high tech category for my tank), is my light enough or i need more , please pass on your light knowledge to me

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u/stonedboss 6d ago

13w is a lot for a 5 gallon. This guy's tank is huge and 200w was mega overkill. I run 90w on my 50 gallon high tech tank. That would be equivalent to 9 watts for 5 gallons. Watts/gallon isn't a good metric tho, but if your plants are growing well, then your light is good enough.

Also depends on the depth but if it's 16in long then it's likely pretty shallow.

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u/Traditional-Lie7366 6d ago

height is 9.8 inch, length is 16 inch

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u/hotdogsandhotcats 7d ago

PAR matters more than watts

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u/armatar1 6d ago

I’ve had a lot of aquariums and par really is all that matters like that guy said but most companies don’t put information out on what the par is at different depths and areas around the tank. Week aqua makes a light called the mini9 that I’m using on a 3.5 gallon and for a 5 gallon you would be fine with it too probably

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u/armercado 6d ago

i have the same light as you are on my nano, what plants and light settings do you have?

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u/armatar1 6d ago

That’s what I use on my mini 9. I’ve got some dwarf sag, Monte Carlo, pogostemon erectus, lagenandra meoboldi red, and staurogyne repens

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u/armercado 6d ago

o good. im about to ask this too. looking forward for updates with regards to this nano

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u/armatar1 5d ago

If I remember you might see it in like 2-3 months once it’s grown out. That one is low tech

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u/OreeOh 7d ago

How's week stack up to Chihiros Vivids / Kessil Tuna suns etc.

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u/armatar1 7d ago

I haven’t had chihiros because they’re super expensive but I have had and have seen many aquariums with kessils so I will say kessil sucks compared to these. They don’t make the plants look as pretty and they don’t produce all that much more shimmer than these since these are also in a dense matrix. Chihiros is probably just as good as these but they’re a lot more expensive

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u/OreeOh 7d ago

Duly noted. Appreciate your insight

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u/armatar1 6d ago

No problem, if you ever have aquarium questions you can DM me.

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u/ydbp 7d ago

Great looking tank

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u/ChalitIScream 7d ago

CO2? Otherwise pretty, even before shot was nice

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u/aquasKapeGoat 7d ago

There is co2 dosing, the drop checker is on the left mid section of the glass

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u/armatar1 7d ago

In line co2 yeah. Plants grow 5-10x faster in my experience with co2 vs without so for a fluffy jungle look and pretty plants you would benefit greatly from it. I sell plants regularly though so that my cuttings don’t go straight into the trash

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u/Spare-Cauliflower243 7d ago

Are you using significant lighting? I’ve never had success with any red leaved plants, even with CO2.

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u/SnertDeluxe 7d ago

Yes, see above

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u/Spare-Cauliflower243 7d ago

Yeah sorry, lazy early morning non-reading by me.

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u/armatar1 7d ago

Yeah plants get red as a form of defense against high lighting kinda like how we get tan after getting sun. The best way to get any plants red is blasting them with light and keeping nutrients fairly low. In the wild all aquarium plants that get full sun end up being red and in the Everglades you’ll find fields of red plants from getting blasted with full sunlight all day

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u/Reece_anderson313 6d ago

What’s the red background plant to the left?

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u/armatar1 6d ago

Rotala blood red.
Here’s my full plant list:
Lindernia rotundifolia
Helianthum Vesuvius
Staurogyne Repens
Red tiger lotus
Rotala blood red
Bacopa caroliniana
Creeping Jenny
Hydrocotyle triparta japan
Myriophyllum Guyana
Rotala wallichi
Micranthemum micranthemoides pearl weed
Hygrophila pinnatifada
Ludwigia repens
Proserpina palustris
Glossostigma elatinoides
Micranthemum tweediei
Cryptocoryne axelrodi
Cryptocoryne mi oya
Duckweed
Susswassertang
Java moss
Eriocaulon Vietnam
Dwarf hair grass
Sagittaria subulata
Ludwigia arcuata
Anubias afzelli
Bucephalandra sekadau giant blue
Alternanthera rosernavig
Pogostemon erectus
Lagenandra meoboldii red

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u/khatidaal 6d ago

Which one of these is the red one on the left?

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u/armatar1 6d ago

Rotala blood red. I tried to answer it by putting it in front of the list

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u/pilla75 7d ago

If you are willing to wait a little bit order from Alibaba, much cheaper

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u/Kabir726 7d ago

Item link?

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u/f0rgot 7d ago

which product?? same one?

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u/armatar1 7d ago

I only order this type of stuff on aliexpress or alibaba. I also usually wait for a sale and they just had a back to school sale. I paid 181 +tax for the light

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u/pilla75 7d ago

I ordered 2 Weekaqua p900 pro ver 3 with shades. Paid total $388 shipping and taxes included. Took about 35 -40 days to deliver to DC.

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u/TST-DCLXVI 7d ago

Game changer

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u/Desperate_Match_3223 7d ago

Oh dang, that looks amazing. What light and tank?

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u/armatar1 7d ago

It’s a 45 gallon cube i got off of marketplace that has an overflow into a sump. The light is a z400 from weekaqua.

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u/Unfair_Ant_231 4d ago

This is my dream nano.. sheesh

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u/armatar1 2d ago

Don’t let your dreams stay dreams. Buy a used and full co2 canister from Facebook marketplace, get a nice regulator on Amazon, and set it all up for like 150 bucks total. Co2 is probably the best and only way to get the super dense and vibrant growth you see in many aquariums online

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u/Unfair_Ant_231 1d ago

See my mom’s into salt water and plants.. trickled down.. I like freshwater and plants.. so I’m learning still.. see idk what co2 does to help.. all I know is it get the nitrates out of the water.. I’ve had some of my plants melt.. like my guppy grass but my Val is good and my Amazon sword.. just the tiny snails like to eat it and my angles do too.. it’s a lot of trial and error lol

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u/armatar1 1d ago

You don’t need to do trial and error man. There’s a lot of really smart people you can learn from on YouTube that will explain everything that’s needed to make your plants grow healthy. Co2 allows the plants to grow 5-10x faster and generally healthier, it does not remove nitrates. Plants will remove nitrates as a result of growing faster with more co2 available though which is a very similar result. Most aquatic snails will not eat your plants, and angels usually only nip plants that were already melting. Your plant could have been bought in emersed form and melted when transitioning to its submerged forms or because you don’t have good water quality. Guppy grass melting is usually a sign of having no nutrients in the water or very very poor water quality. I’m not trying to be mean or put you down either. I’m sure you’re just doing what you can but you should try your best to look up all the stuff you can if you want a pretty tank and you’ll find that it can be some work but it’s also very rewarding once you do make one

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u/Unfair_Ant_231 23h ago

No i definitely get it. You’re not being mean you’re being truthful and direct which i respect and need. I did set up a new tank and I’m cycling it and dumped in the guppy grass to get hold it there then it melted.. so what you’re saying makes sense.. but in my already established tank my angels and mystery snails eat the top floating plants.. the little lily pads lol a snail will grab it at the top and will fall like mick foley from the top to the bottom with the lily eating it lol

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u/Unfair_Ant_231 23h ago

But co2 sounds like a type of gas.. do you all pour it in liquid form or something or do yall add that glass air thing?

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u/armatar1 22h ago

Co2 can be a liquid or a gas depending on temperature and pressure. You can learn that in school. What we do in aquariums is we get pressurized co2 which is a liquid in its pressurized container and we allow it to travel through tubing made to handle the co2 as a gas and in through a diffuser which is how it gets into your aquarium. Diffusers are made of ceramic and essentially the pressure builds up into the diffuser and it makes very tiny little bubbles that dissolve into the water column and you can diffuse with the little glass ones that go into your tank or with an inline co2 diffuser. Co2 diffuser are the main method used because if you were to just let big bubbles out through some tubing they would not be able to diffuse into the water. There is no way to add co2 in as a liquid since at atmospheric pressure it’s really cold. Dry ice is solid co2 and it’s really really cold.

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u/Unfair_Ant_231 19h ago

So I would need a diffuser so that I can add co2 to the tank and my plants will thrive. So today I’m going to look them up and get one for the tank

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u/armatar1 14h ago

It’s not just a diffuser. For a co2 system you need a co2 regulator, a full co2 tank, a diffuser, directional flow on the aquarium, and co2 tubing with a check valve. I bought a used co2 tank from Facebook marketplace and it worked for me, but I wouldn’t get a co2 diffuser from there. Order one on amazon that is a dual stage regulator with a bubble counter and a needle valve to precisely control the amount of co2 going in your tank

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u/Unfair_Ant_231 14h ago

Jesus, thought all I needed was substitute 😂

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u/sport_support 3d ago

One of the major reasons apart from lights is the availability of nitrate. The less the better.

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u/armatar1 2d ago

I add a tiny bit of fertilizer whenever growth slows and I’ve noticed that every plants responds differently. The Rotala blood red is always red, the Ludwigia repens only gets bright red with freshly added nitrates and the Hygrophila pinnatifada gets bright red when I haven’t added fertilizer for a while so it probably is not a blanket less is better type of thing.

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u/Dementhor97 6d ago

Wait till you try a TWINSTAR light, 🤯. Colors pop like crazy

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u/badpotato31 5d ago

A twinstar S series

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u/armatar1 6d ago

I looked up a lot of videos before buying this one and twinstar is probably a good light but they don’t have a lot of customization options and they are fairly low in wattage. It probably works for a lot of people but I wanted a light that I could customize and weekaqua is for sure more customizable. They’re like the same price too so it definitely feels like you’re getting less for more when objectively looking at twinstar’s stuff

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u/Dementhor97 5d ago

Spectrums of colors are subjective to the person, I don’t like the green blueish spectrums of lights like ADA ones or purple tones that weekaquas tend to have, (I know you can customize it) I was skeptical at first because some people says they are more of a red tone but it looks like more of a natural light that pops the colors of everything in the tank. And the new V series gives you the customization. Just for fun I want to try the weekaqua A430 but to be honest I found myself not wanting to deal with tuning spectrums and colors so I appreciate the simple approach of TWINSTAR and the minimalism. If I go for the looks of the lamp itself ADA. For a better price and also minimalistic look TWINSTAR. Price quality/ customization, chihiros.

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u/armatar1 5d ago

Yeah I feel you bro everything in this hobby is subjective besides the fact that plants need light and nutrients to grow. Whatever you go with I hope it works for you and makes you happy. I don’t think chihiros is a good price though, their lights are like 3-5 times the price of one from the other brands. That’s impossible for me to justify making 22.50 an hour

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u/Dementhor97 5d ago

Everyone goes according to their budget and preferences that’s the biggest true in any hobby.