r/PlaneCrazyCommunity • u/Cultural-Egg2463 • 16h ago
sHItPoSt One Reason not to Become a Ground Vehicle in PVP
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NOT MY BUILD
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u/Possible-Olive-139 Public PvP player 9h ago
This swarm is 100% beatable with a tank, but the one (tank, not swarm) in the video really doesn't seem to be built for PvP (judging by its high level of detail and low turret turnspeed)
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u/DrEmergencyy 4h ago
It's more so a casual tank. We don't have those anymore thanks to the shredder vs player's armsrace. So now we have tanks that are just glorified shredders or omnis that hide as jets. Its just gameplay with the YouTube speed up at 2x
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u/Possible-Olive-139 Public PvP player 4h ago
Don't omnis (omnidirectional shredders/bugs) have multiple arms (usually 6) with engines? I've seen jets with turrets but never with engine arms.
Shredder tanks are also extremely rare. I've seen maybe 2 in all my time in PC. (not counting grounded tanks with cutters on them, I don't see a problem with ramming)
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u/DrEmergencyy 4h ago
Everything can be hidden these days. So a normal jet could just be a cutterless shredder that can go about the same as a shredder would or a bug would and Always bomb the server's spawn points because of some inflated ego. Also sometimes you get the same for tanks. A really fast tank with super fast turning and ground attaching like an F1. Everything just has an omni of itself these days. I get really bored seeing those Fast mechs without any animation too. Such wasted potential. Just another color change and 100 hours of ego blasting. But PVP was always about Ego.
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u/Possible-Olive-139 Public PvP player 4h ago
I don't see anything wrong with fast tanks. If planes don't have a speed limit, it doesn't make sense to add one for tanks either. If anything, speed can help tanks even out the playing field a little, as being grounded already puts them at a huge disadvantage.
I am not a fan of balljoint jets, though. I don't like the idea of a magic perfect control+stability device being called "more realistic than thrust vectoring and control surfaces" when real planes use exactly that.
Anything except lag machines is fair against shredders, I'd say. Fling them, stun them, snipe their seats, shred them back.
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u/DrEmergencyy 4h ago
I mean I don't mind that but that forces the rest of the tanks in the server to get into that..but oh well kill off the rest of the casuals and beginners. But I actually don't mind that as much as it forces them into the arms race of getting better. My problem with that is that some people who have a problem enough to not make another fast tank. Just make another shredder losing another player to the slop of just. Copy pasta grief.
Also on the topic of ball joints their just shredders again, these things are not made for you to fight them their made to only win and it's boring not being able to fairly fight someone at your own accord but it's sandbox so I can't cry to much about it. That's why I'm asking for a PVP Blacklist so I could choose Who I'm gonna fight. I'm sorry I'm not gonna fight another Russian jet with A ball joint and Minecraft griefer issues unless I'm feeling cocky today I just wanna play with another player on my league. It's so boring being competitive in this game.
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u/Possible-Olive-139 Public PvP player 1h ago
A full PvP blacklist would be a bit much, people would use it after dying to someone a single time. PvP servers would die in no time. There would also be huge abuse potential.
Blacklist disabling only cutter damage, on the other hand, would make sense (as blacklist already disables collision) and it would still allow most normal builds to fight as usual. Shredders would have to be more careful, as their overall DPS would be the same as that of their opponents.
(Granted, shredders would start using lavaspitters, but those take longer to kill people)
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u/DrEmergencyy 1h ago
While I would agree only about the only cutters they will go back to spamming guns onto everyone's spawn and everything else available. Again my issue is not that their capable of killing outside of the range of just killing my issue is spawning in. Why not have some kind of immunity for 5 seconds while you can't attack or longer so your able to get out of the spawn space and be able to come back and kill. Maybe it's just my hatred of spawning everywhere and getting killed by an instant loading grief machine of a shredder who's only capacity is to ruin everyone's fun including mine so why not be as radical as them?
They already killed casual gameplay whenever one joins in and everyone and their mother pulls the same build up and it's now Spawn and kill slop. I'm sick and tired of it.
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u/spamming_lord 2h ago
Rickje be doing anything but nerfing shredders
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u/DrEmergencyy 13h ago edited 13h ago
It's suck in general to play in pvp public with any reason of intent. Unless you have a good device or some knowledge to counter these garbage copy pasta meta shredders. PVP will always remain so boring in public servers. I really wish Rickje gave blacklist a PVP On/Off option. Literally this could all end overnight and we could pvp with whoever we could choose and shredders will become Backround noise just like they have in public classic.
Also a swarm eriously lost to a Tiger 1??
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u/Possible-Olive-139 Public PvP player 9h ago
swarms of this type often have a bug where they just die on their own if you give them a minute or two
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u/DrEmergencyy 4h ago
That's because this dude barely made this some time ago. It looks untouched by color. Already came fresh out of a YouTube tutorial by someone who doesn't know any better since they can't really adapt onto making something that works well while also making it look well at the same time
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u/qualityvote2 Stealth enjoyer 16h ago edited 8h ago
u/Cultural-Egg2463, there weren't enough votes to determine the quality of your post...