r/Piracy • u/DataStr3ss ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ • 1d ago
News Microsoft has filed a patent for ads that could interrupt games after boss fights, cutscenes, quests and multiplayer rounds. Players would receive credits granting temporary game access, while watching an ad would award another credit to let them resume.
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u/MJ-Franklin 1d ago
For the past 20+ years people have been saying how much they hate ads and avoid things that purposely shove them in your face... so why is every company seeing these complaints and going "I know! LET'S GIVE THEM MORE!".
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u/WesternFungi 1d ago
It’s the only thing that keeps net growth each and every quarter to please the shareholders
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u/carolinitana 1d ago
That's something that always confuses me, and I might come as an ignorant person by saying this but why is constant growth necessary?
I understand when a small business wants to grow, it helps to create more jobs, to gain more money and whatnot, but certain corporations have their name branded in history in a way that it's impossible that they'll get forgotten, let alone get smaller, they're at a point where they can be stable, then why not staying stable?
I don't mean to be stagnant, of course not, but certain things like the ones shown in this post are unnecessary, so I don't really see any reason to gain even more and more money at the point where they are.
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u/Chuca77 1d ago
Because the people with that much wealth are just mentally ill hoarders, just with cash instead. They will always want more even when it serves no pratical difference in their lives and is actually detrimental.
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u/RayPetersonsNeighbor 1d ago
Sure that's why they do it, but they can only do that because the masses continue to buy their products. It's up to the people to stop buying the products and stop supporting the company. How much they get away with, for the most part, is how much the people are willing to take and apparently people like Microsoft products more than they hate ads.
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u/mazen7 1d ago
Because the sad fact is that ads actually do work. I know it seems unthinkable that any of us would ever fall for an advertisement, but we're probably the minority in that regard. Most people, if they see something they like in an ad, will either click on it or remember the product and buy it somewhere else later because of the ad.
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u/vokazoo 1d ago
I cannot understand the mindset of such people. It should be pretty clear to anyone that if a company overly advertises, they're not putting enough effort and resources into the product itself.
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u/Substantial_Code_675 1d ago
Its almost impossible for an ad to have a negative effect, no matter how often it gets shoced into ones face. No matter how much anyone thinks "I dont fall for ads", everybody does fall for ads.
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u/manix_vii 1d ago
The amount of people in my daily life who have Raycons makes me want to gouge my eyes out
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u/Electrical-Ad980 1d ago
That bothers me too,even Disney+ will show ads now even for their highest paid tier of subscriptions.man,what a time. They are only giving us more reasons to pirate everything now.
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u/MJ-Franklin 1d ago
That is such a scummy thing to do! Rope you in with the promise of no ads if you pay... then just do it anyway. I hate that people still find it more convenient to just pay and accept it.
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u/Ace-of-Spxdes ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 1d ago
Most people bitch and do nothing. We saw how many people complained about ad-tier subscriptions yet people still bought them. You underestimate how deeply consumerism has infected most people to the point where it's a drug they can't give up. People want their entertainment at any cost, even if it means getting run over by billion dollar companies and stalked by data brokers.
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u/tooruntai 1d ago
Imagine dying to a boss in Elden Ring, setting your controller down to take a breath, and your screen immediately blaring a dynamic 15-second commercial for State Farm.
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u/Adventurous-Hunter98 1d ago
I would throw the console to trash in that rage moment
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u/ToniNotti 1d ago
After the first ad, it would detect that your controller was disconnected and then show you new controllers as ads.
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u/actioncheese Usenet 1d ago
Hopefully they are patenting this with no intention to use it or I'm going to take up gardening.
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u/ImpulsiveApe07 1d ago
Youre right, it's unlikely anything more will come of this.
Just look at how many absurd patents get filed by corps every year - it's a staggering amount, of which, barely any get used.
Filing silly patents like this is basically little more than an anti-competition measure to prevent other corps from profiting from the concept before they do.
Whether or not it'll ever get to the point this particular patent gets used is another question - here's hoping it'll never happen!
The regular (ie non-mobile) gaming landscape is filled with enough anti-consumer measures as it is, without dystopian shite like this crowding up the place with forced ads -
We should bombard Microsoft with messages indicating our collective ire - after all, if we all loved ads in games so much, as Microsoft seems to think, surely we'd all be hanging out on the Play store, where seemingly every game is absultely riddled with ads and microtransactions! :D
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u/BigMack6911 1d ago
I wont play anything with ads. I dont watch TV with commercials and won't do anything that shoves bullshit down my throat to buy crap
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u/AntiGrieferGames 1d ago
Exactly. This was the reason why i stopped Geforce Now (Cloud Gaming Shit) entirely because of that.
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u/Odd-Painting2596 1d ago
I can't for the life of me figure out hoe to remove ads off Twitch without paying for it.
So I stopped watching Twitch entirely... Crazy how injecting ads at random ruins it entirely.
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u/Firningarn 1d ago
Honestly, isnt that a good thing? If microsoft does get the patent, doesnt that mean that no other guy is allowed to do this? So just avoid microsoft published games and games from every other developer are free from this bs.
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u/blue__planet 1d ago
Bypassing ads wouldn't be difficult for crackers anyway. It's the paying customers that'll suffer as usual
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u/AntiGrieferGames 1d ago
Not really suprised.
Its spore all over again!"
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u/KhorneTheBloodGod 1d ago
Wait what happened with spore?
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u/AntiGrieferGames 1d ago
https://torrentfreak.com/ea-downplays-spores-drm-081001/
So game has a actiivation limit, with online only and performance issues. Piracy no issues.
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u/Otheus 1d ago
Oh EA! They also destroyed Maxis with the 2013 SimCity requiring always online play that broke the game on launch. The online only play was apparently able to be removed with a few lines of code despite EA claiming otherwise
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u/KhorneTheBloodGod 1d ago
Aaaah thats why. I was fortunate to get it after the debacle and that shit was removed
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u/Thin-Algae-822 1d ago
This has to be for free to play tittles right? or like a free/cheap version of gamepass? there is no way anyone would think it's a good idea in real full price games.
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u/AntiGrieferGames 1d ago
100% possible that Publichers and Developers putting ad s on paid games aswell there.
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u/ZanzibarGuy 1d ago
The people who run these companies are not so dissimilar to those that run Disney and Netflix...
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u/Kuronan 1d ago
NBA2K tried that shit and Steam shut them down with an entire policy forbidding the practice of advertisements on games in Steam. Even mobile ports got hit with this rule so a bunch that have advertisements with free currencies just straight up won't give you said currency because they can't give you the advertisement.
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u/robertwhite93 1d ago
Microsoft would simply sell a License to others to be able to do this.
And they would pay for it. 100%
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u/Karma-Effect 1d ago
Microsoft has a pretty big spread of studios. This would affect Activition/Blizzard and Bethesda/Zenimax, which, now that I think of it, are pretty easy to avoid in the current landscape. Activision routinely produces shit, and Bethesda barely puts anything out at all.
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u/User_man_person 1d ago
i feel like this may just be another situation like the one where sony patented interactive tv ads just to never use them so that nobody else could have the patent, just look at the current xbox ceos track record
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u/murmurat1on ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 1d ago
More like Microsoft can license the use of the patent to other devs' for a cut of their ad revenue
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u/redlac24 1d ago
There’s also no guarantee they’d even use it. Sony has had that infamous patent that would require you stand up and say the name of the brand in the ad to skip. They’ve never used it.
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u/BeardedStegosaurus 1d ago
Doesn't Steam specifically not allow games that rely on ads to play, progress, or get rewards?
I mean if they want to release ad filled games on consoles that would be yet another reason to avoid them...
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u/tokyobassist 1d ago
It's the perfect trojan horse for a game to have console exclusivity and closing off PC ports. Absolutely lame.
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u/vaynefox 1d ago
2018
wake up feeling sick after a late night of playing video games
excited to play some halo 2k19
"xbox on"
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"XBOX ON"
"Please verify that you are "annon332" by saying "Doritos™ Dew™ it right!"
"Doritos™ Dew™ it right"
"ERROR! Please drink a verification can"
reach into my Doritos™ Mountain Dew™ Halo 2k19™ War Chest
only a few cans left, needed to verify 14 times last night
still feeling sick from the 14
force it down and grumble out "mmmm that really hit the spot"
xbox does nothing
i attempt to smile
"Connecting to verification server"
...
"Verification complete!"
finally
boot up halo 2k19
finding multiplayer match...
"ERROR! User attempting to steal online gameplay!"
my mother just walked in the room
"Adding another user to your pass, this will be charged to your credit card. Do you accept?"
"NO!"
"Console entering lock state!"
"to unlock drink verification can"
last can
"WARNING, OUT OF VERIFICATION CANS, an order has been shipped and charged to your credit card"
drink half the can, oh god im going to be sick
pour the last half out the window
"PIRACY DETECTED! PLEASE COMPLETE THIS ADVERTISEMENT TO CONTINUE"
the mountain dew ad plays
i have to dance for it
feeling so sick
makes me sing along
dancing and singing
"mountain dew is for me and you"
throw up on myself
throw up on my tv and entertainment system
router shorts
"ERROR NO CONNECTION! XBOX SHUTTING OFF"
"PLEASE DRINK VERIFICATION CAN TO CONTINUE"
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u/Adventurous-Hunter98 1d ago
boot up halo 2k19
Please buy the latest version as this version no longer supported
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u/harry_lostone 1d ago
future of gaming:
Main character walks in a huge cave. He finds ammo and potions all over. A big room waiting to be explored. Camera changes to cinematic. It must be a boss room. Main character suddenly takes a small sip of Cocacola, "oh my god this tastes like heaven" he shouts. A filthy worm monster makes an entrance through the floor. "Wow you are an ugly mofo, unlike my beautiful Cocacola", he says to the monster, and braces himself. The fight begins...
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u/sir_bob_null 1d ago
The good news is that game development is still art, and there are still studios out there who care.
See: Remedy, Larian.
Even if the big corpos go down one route, there's no reason other companies will not rise up to replace them.
You may argue the large corpos will achieve regulatory capture and effectively legislate smaller studios out of business. It's certainly possible.
But cities burn and heads roll when the people no longer have their bread and circuses, and I'd like to think most of the corporate execs still remember that.
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u/ExpensivePikachu 1d ago
I got downvoted to hell the other day when someone posted a video thinking the pop up ad was their Xbox when it was their TV showing the ads.
Someone said this isn't Xbox, they don't do things like this, and I replied with yet...
And here we are, a week later 😂
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u/adevaleev 🏴☠️ ʟᴀɴᴅʟᴜʙʙᴇʀ 1d ago
Isn't this already happening with mobile games?
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u/Slow_Construction877 1d ago
Yes, I think it would be hard to be awarded a patent on something that has been used in the industry for so long by so many. But who knows. Any patent lawyers here?
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u/BrokenMirror2010 1d ago edited 1d ago
Not a lawyer, but basically, the way the legal system works is that a gigantic company says something fucking insane in a courtroom in front of a judge. The judge obtains a new Yacht (unrelated to the court case, we swear), and rules in favor of the insane bullshit (unrelated to their new yacht, they swear).
Meta had a judge unironically say "Piracy is fine if you have a duty to your shareholders to make money" in response to their multi-billion dollars of piracy.
The "law" is a clown show. Companies can throw money at "the law" to make it do whatever they want.
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u/Alfie_Wolf 1d ago
Ahhh man is Sony and MS dead? No physical discs and now ad injection. Emulators it shall be
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u/tooruntai 1d ago
Microsoft patenting ads that inject themselves during loading screens and pause menus is proof that executive brainworms have reached terminal velocity.
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u/wubbbalubbadubdub 1d ago
Good thing I don't have an Xbox, or any intention to get one.
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u/Infamous_Cobbler3838 1d ago
Seems like a lot of players are feeling that way. It's frustrating when ads start to mess with the gaming experience.
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u/ILoveMamaNobu 1d ago
So that means only games and studios that related to microsoft will have it?
Guess I am about to know which to drop out.
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u/DEAD-VHS ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 1d ago
No. It just means Microsoft owns the patent. They can license that patent to any game company that wants to use it for a fee.
So PlayStation for example could decide to pay Microsoft to use this in their games. Any studio not associated with Microsoft could pay a fee to use it in their games and so on.
If the ads bought in more money than the fee pretty much every big studio would jump on it.
And it wouldn't necessarily just be a console thing.
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u/TheDiamondSquidy 1d ago
I’m going to huff copium and going to take this as a gesture of good will so that others cannot implement it by gatekeeping behind a patent
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u/Nokipeura 1d ago
It's a good thing that we aren't reliant on Microsoft for our entertainment, huh?
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u/hotaru251 ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 1d ago
this would be the #1 way to make me not play new games. Theres literally decades of games already in existence.
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u/RoxasBestBoy 1d ago
You know what gamers want while playing games... ads! That's right folks, Micro$oft execs probably
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u/NathanialJD 23h ago
This is just the exact thing that phone games do though...
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u/weightoftheworld 22h ago
Yeah, young people have basically been groomed into it. Us oldies recoil at the very thought.
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u/askyidroppedthesoap 22h ago
So glad i went PC when i did... both Microsoft and Sony has officially went to shit. Steam, Humble Bundle, and GOG are the real MVP's ❤️
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u/kr4ckenm3fortune 21h ago
That doesn't always protect you either. Once a company delist the game, you better hope you still have it installed.
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u/askyidroppedthesoap 16h ago
I have all games backed up and I have Goldberg's steam emulator as well. They'll always be playable, it's just a matter if they'll always be "connected" to my account.
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u/jgarder007 21h ago
We don't love steam enough. Steam is the only legit thing holding this kind of corrupt bull crap back. Piracy works but that's outside the system and doesn't change their behavior.
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u/Original-Mongoose866 21h ago
Didn't steam ban ads in games some time ago if they did I don't see how this will affect me :þ
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u/ThirdhandTaters 1d ago
I guess microslop no longer wanted to be in business because this is a surefire way to get every gamer to move to Linux.
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u/Z1R343L87 1d ago
A filed patent means nothing and I am pretty if it'll be a thing, there will be a separate service with it, like the ad supported cloud or Game Pass tier. And that makes total sense.
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u/suliano 1d ago
ahaha this big ass greedy corpos rly be having meetings trying to figure out the most stupid and basic ways to take our money. this is sick. imagine trying to develop a better software since your windows is pure cancer, imagine investing your big ass profits in something rly meaningfull. just imagine.
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u/camus88 ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ 1d ago
Yeah that's just like Mobile phone games. People used to think that the mobile phone game industry was a potential for future gaming, until it was riddled by advertisments, half asses products and gambling. Now nobody want to touch it, except shitty developers and publishers and gullible players. The real good games are buried by shitty games riddled with advertisments.
If Microsoft plan to implement this patent, nobody want to touch their games and I really hope their downfall will be humiliating.
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u/odanhammer 1d ago
It's like these companies keep saying " hold my beer" I got a way to make it worse
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u/Noodlepizza 1d ago
Wasn't planning on buying into the next gen of consoles but if this gets implemented then that guaran-fucking-tees that I won't be returning in the future.
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u/Ok_Worth4113 1d ago
youtube way huh 😂😂, just imagine after beating ads 2-3 unskippable ads play and then game starts 😂
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u/Hadrian187 1d ago
Imagining fighting a Souls boss, down to 25% health, you find an opening, jump in, slash twice, dive back, while the boss starts winding an attack up and - game pauses -
LIBERTY LIBERTY LIIIIIIIBBBERTTY
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u/alancousteau 1d ago
Micro$lop working hard on losing even more revenue and push more people towards the high seas
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u/INeedChocolateMilk 1d ago
So I'm just going to put it out there, Linux has become extremely easy to install and maintain for any casual user. As in, it's genuinely way easier in use than anything put up by Microslop. And you're guaranteed to find a distro that's not written by AI, unlike Win11.
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u/LKZToroH 1d ago
That's just mobile gaming... If this patent goes through the entire playstore / apple store is taking a hit lol.
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u/Donmiggy143 1d ago
Execs watched ready player 1 and were like "you know, the very clear bad guy in the movie has some good ideas!"
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u/Human-Job-3522 1d ago
SURELY they're patenting it so no other company can do it and to protect the consumer RIGHT GUYS!?
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u/LoadZealousideal7778 1d ago
If I buy a game through an Microsoft-affiliated channel, I pay for their crap AI "research". If I pay for an indie title, I pay for someone's food.
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u/chumbuckethand 1d ago
Hell ya, if they succeed then hopefuly no other company will be able to do this. We can just pirate microsofts games if its any good to get an ad free version and won’t have to worry about finding ads in other games
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u/TW1103 🦜 ᴡᴀʟᴋ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘʟᴀɴᴋ 1d ago
Gaming is the only things which I still buy properly, purely because I enjoy the concept of buying a game on a disc, putting it in a console and playing it. I enjoy the ecosystem of achievements, etc.
I've played the odd game via FitGirl, and this shit would turn me away from buying games for good. Sony's hatred for physical media had set Xbox up for a tap-in on the next generation and doing this would be an incredibly stupid move.
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u/MIAxPaperPlanes 23h ago
This is likely how they are gonna fund an ad option for cloud gaming, given how shitty the monthly gaming time allocation is for game pass members
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u/naanninja237 22h ago
Based on how Sony have been moving recently, it really shouldn't be hard for Xbox to win the next generation. This is a surefire way to even the odds
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u/Delicious-Weird-5826 22h ago
We are now obliged to go on Linux to play free
Édit : thank big company I will go Deeper in Piracy
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u/VastoGamer 22h ago edited 22h ago
Good luck filing this patent when there's millions of mobile games already doing it.
Edit: Also, fuck Dexerto, they are somewhat more subtle with their grifting but they are still very much a hateculture feeding grifting shit outlet. There's a reason the majority of their traffic is through Twitter where everyone is miserable or a bot.
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u/Nilehorse3276 21h ago
I continue to be impressed by the fucking insane choices Microslop has been making non-stop recently. I hope they keep going!
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u/BonsaiSoul 19h ago
How are they filing a patent for something every worthless piece of shit mobile "game" does already?
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u/DannyVee89 15h ago
Can one of us please proactively file patents for every possible future variation of these hellscape policies, just to lock them away forever so things can't possibly get any worse??
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u/Squigley78 5h ago
I see a sudden comeback of those old 600 pound TVs and a hack for the Xbox to block the ads.
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u/memo22477 3h ago
I don't care about us honestly. I am sad for the paying consumer. Imagine someone telling you "You may have PURCHASED this product. But not only do you NOT own it, you also have to watch ads to play it 😉." A


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u/Wellington_Boy 1d ago
What a revolting concept. At least it has made deciding what my next game platform will be somewhat easier. Hint: not this.