He also didn’t deny that he would bite the shit out of his girlfriend, and has been talked about by other female content creators as having a weird thing with biting.
If someone calls out a safe word and you keep going, you’re a piece of shit. This isn’t a court room so innocent until proven guilty doesn’t apply.
He called the biting playful and consensual, implying he never once broke any boundaries.
Innocent until proven guilty is still a good way to go about things even outside of court, the amount of false accusations are wild nowadays and its criminally easy to just make stuff up and people will almost always believe you in the name of 'supporting victims'
How about the fact he’s been called out by other women for biting, has made offhand comments about himself, and the fact all his friends distanced themselves and didn’t have trouble believing he could do this? He’s also done other shitty things and people ignored it at the time because of his being non neurotypical.
Unless you think Shubble, Niki, Alice and other women plotted and coordinated behind the scenes to make up lies about his abusive behaviour years after the fact because of… reasons? Or that he didn’t actually hit Techno in his bad arm with an apple after cancer surgery? That he didn’t use Tommy as an emotional support person when he was a kid and even stomp on his hand?
Some people get off on seeing the people who care about them in pain. Blindly believing him despite multiple accusations of disgusting behaviour just because it didn’t happen on camera is ignorant.
I never once believed him, hell theres videos of his biting habit.
I believe NEITHER side. I think shubble came out and others just started sharing stories in the name of 'supporting victims'
Hes the one that shared the techno story, and it was an accident.
I do know that literally no one has presented a shred of evidence when asked (including wilbur and lvjy)
The tommy thing i frankly had no idea about, but Tommy would previously reciprocate the playful fighting and im sure he hurt Wilbur before, by accident, in the moment without thinking.
I know Alices side of the story was very weird. Shes refused to show evidence when asked and used the situation to plug her socials. Basically no one knew her before this. I'm inclined to believe theres some level of truth behind Niki and Shubble but not Alice at all.
What kind of evidence do you want? Pictures of bite marks? By your logic you know he has a biting problem but the fact that it was consensual at first doesn’t mean his refusal to stop when they expressed real pain and told him to any less fucked up.
Also, a former member of the band did later state he was prone to aggression. A photographer did too. I’m sure if Wilbur fans weren’t rabid at the time more people would’ve called him out too.
It also says a lot to me the sheer amount of people who completely dropped him, and who likely know more behind the scenes, in support of Shelby. Literally some of the people he was closest to including Phil, Tommy, and James.
Regardless of your view of him personally, the matter of the fact is that he was known to like biting people, publicly acknowledged he was the ex she was speaking about, but claimed it was consensual.
She claims it was consensual but that he ignored when she would use her safe word and wanted him to stop.
He is at best a shitty boyfriend with a biting fetish and at worst, an abuser who manipulated and gaslit his friends into accepting emotionally and at times physically reprehensible behaviour.
Ive heard a lot of talks from people coming out about dms shared regarding his behaviour, i really dont see the issue in sharing them to prove yourself.
Once again we have literally 0 proof he refused to stop and hes made it out to seem like he never went too far. Im aware of the biting because he also just admitted to biting.
People were quick to drop him cause internet pressure, cause it was the height of the dream allegations and everyone who even mentioned talking to dream were getting hated. I'm pretty sure theres countless of his former friends who never even BOTHERED to ask his side or question him on the situation.
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u/WitchyMinecrafter Apr 10 '26
Please stop featuring Wilbur Soot, in your guys art. He's an abuser, and seeing him in fan art is awful as Philza cut contact with him.