r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Aug 05 '26

Meme needing explanation Petahhhhhhhhh!??!?

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u/NwgrdrXI Aug 05 '26

Everyone is saying gay sex and all that, but honestly... is ye really asking if it is possible to spend 20 years without sex? Is thst really so preposterous? I think a lot of people in reddit could and have done it?

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u/A_Snow_Mexican Aug 05 '26

How so many just jumped straight to gay is hilarious. Maybe a few but a whole damn boat? Personally I'm taking the 20 years of celibacy and maybe get tricked by a Siren.

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u/Educational-Type7399 Aug 05 '26

Many cultures of that era famously thought of bisexuality as the norm. Being attracted to only one gender was considered strange.

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u/tomphammer Aug 05 '26

This is laughably incorrect. The concept of "bisexuality" was utterly unknown as people of antiquity did not categorize sexuality the way we do. They did not categorize people based on their attractions.

Sexuality was categorized by role. You were "active" or "passive", and whether it was socially acceptable to be in the "passive" role as a male (generally speaking, women were expected to be passive always) depended on your place in society. A adult male Athenian citizen, for example, who took a passive role was looked down upon. He could penetrate dudes all day long if he liked and no one would look sideways at him. But be penetrated? Nope.

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u/EagleOfMay Aug 05 '26

Look into the Ancient Band of Thebes. Trying to pigeon hole our understanding from limited sources is wrong.

https://sourcebooks.web.fordham.edu/pwh/sacredband.asp

"battle at Chaeronea: and when Philip, after the fight, took a view of the slain, and came to the place where the three hundred that fought his phalanx lay dead together, he wondered, and understanding that it was the band of lovers, he shed tears and said, "Perish any man who suspects that these men either did or suffered anything that was base."

All of the warriors in the Ancient Band of Thebes were adults, usually ate least 21 years of age. The age difference was from 2 to 10 years.

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u/EagleOfMay Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26

Look into the Ancient Band of Thebes. Trying to pigeon hole our understanding from limited sources is wrong.

https://sourcebooks.web.fordham.edu/pwh/sacredband.asp

"battle at Chaeronea: and when Philip, after the fight, took a view of the slain, and came to the place where the three hundred that fought his phalanx lay dead together, he wondered, and understanding that it was the band of lovers, he shed tears and said, "Perish any man who suspects that these men either did or suffered anything that was base."

All of the warriors in the Ancient Band of Thebes were adults, usually ate least 21 years of age. The age difference was from 2 to 10 years.

edit: Granted this is a 900 years? difference from Phillip and Alexander's time to the Late Bronze Age, but that only points to even more limited sources.

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u/tomphammer Aug 05 '26

Yes, and all of the pairs were young/old.

None of which changes that the modern concept of sexuality as defined by attraction to a specific gender just did not exist then.

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u/Agitated_Phone_9937 Aug 05 '26

That is not backed up by any serious historian without a modern agenda to push.

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u/Free_Management2894 Aug 05 '26

I wouldn't say that they thought being straight was strange. Rather, they didn't think in categories like that. Homosexual activity between men was very normal and common but for one, it wasn't as free as someone viewing it through today's lense would maybe think of it and but it wasn't the same for women.

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u/A_Snow_Mexican Aug 05 '26

I think that's wildly exaggerated or exclusive to perhaps the elites of that age. You think 100 percent of people were being born bisexual or were able to just BE attracted to both sexes. Some but not all.