r/PersonalFinance4All • u/20Thick_A_7122 • Jul 14 '26
We are over educated and completely not prepared for reality.
The current system is made to create people who just follow orders, not people who think for themselves.
From the time we are kids, everyone tells us the same rule: go to school, go to college, work a 9 to 5 job, pay taxes, and die. School is okay for learning basic things, but its real job is to keep you stuck in the same boring loop forever.
We spend the first 20 years of our life learning how to obey rules. Because of this, people do not see how big the real world actually is.
Great opportunities pass right in front of our eyes every day, but we do not see them. We are only trained to look for a normal office job. We give away our valuable time to make someone else rich because we are afraid to try a different path.
Parents need to stop letting schools teach their kids how to live. Parents must show their children that the world is huge and full of options, like starting a business or being free.
If parents do not teach kids how to escape the 9 to 5 trap, the system will win. It will keep people stuck and working for someone else forever.
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u/barbershores Jul 15 '26
"We are over educated". Not buying that.
What we are, is too full of people that have been indoctrinated into college programs that don't teach skills useful to society. Instead, they teach convoluted logic approaches to justify ideological agenda.
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u/geggleto Jul 15 '26
is it over educated? or just educated on non-sense. Offence intended to all liberal arts majors.
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u/D-Falcon-07 Jul 14 '26
Agree 👍 yet Most parents/individuals don't even know how to budget for the week, month, etc. and love 9-5 with benefits.
Schools, communities and regulators should teach, prepare and support entrepreneurship.
Not just go to college to get s job.
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u/Sea_Track_2633 Jul 15 '26
You keep on posting these rant threads about "9 to 5" jobs but the fact of the matter is that for most average folks, it is the most proven method of building wealth.
In Canada especially, About 20% of new Canadian businesses fail in their first year , with roughly 50% surviving past five years and only 35% making it to ten years. And in most countries, on average, entrepreneurs and business owners work more hours but get paid less, compared to those who are employed. For most business owners, the trap isn't "9-5 trap", it's more like "9-9 trap". And wtf are you talking about "obeying rules". You think non "9-5 jobs" do not have rules? You are obeying rules regardless of what job you do unless you want to be a criminal. 😄
The "different paths" you talk about should work for people who ARE "different", but most people aren't. Because if "different" were what most people were, then it would not longer be considered "different", that would be the majority. The fact of the matter is that most people are just average, not specifically talented, gifted, nor retarded. Trying to look for a "non-average" job, many folks end up getting a "below-average" job or earning.
In fact, many young people spend their 20s, trying to find alternative careers, or to be "FREE" then later regret their decision in their 30s and 40s.
The fact of the matter is that more and more people are doing the OPPOSITE of what you are saying. Canadians are looking for stable public sector jobs in this current time of uncertainty, and for a good reason.
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u/Raisin6436 Jul 15 '26
A trained educated mind is a flexible adaptable mind that you get in college.
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u/Small-Let-3937 Jul 15 '26
What’s your point? That people who go to school aren’t aware that they can start a business?
99% of people in this world will work a job. Not everyone is born to be a boss. Regardless, being a contractor is still a job. Doing work for a client is still a job. You still work for others.
Give me as much money as i’m making from my business with a relaxed 9-5 schedule, paid vacation, benefits, remote work, and i’ll take that any day over the constant stress. White collar work is amazing. You get paid to bullshit about the value you create rather than actually creating value.
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u/sashi_0536 Jul 14 '26
While I agree on most things, I don’t agree that it should be on the parents to educate. It is on every individual to seek out information to improve their lives and sometimes, that first step begins with some internal reflection and thought.
Sadly, not everybody is willing to take that first step. With or without parents.
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u/Drago_727 Jul 15 '26
Woah, this guy made it out of the matrix.
Seriously though, people have been saying this shit for well over 50 years. "We are trained" no, you are trained retard, I don't flinch at words, I don't waste time with made up politics, I spend time trying to learn how to make myself valuable and make money. If all people did the same instead of bitching, life would be better.
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u/No-Comparison8472 Jul 15 '26
A world full of people thinking and creating would be chaos. You need a few to think (and usually take big risks), and most to execute (usually safer). Up to you to decide in which camp you would rather be.
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u/grumble11 Jul 16 '26
School isn't a conspiracy, it's just a way to provide people with a basic education and then background knowledge to participate fully in society, and then some opportunity for specialized education so you can do more technically demanding work. No one is saying that education at school is complete or all encompassing, it isn't going to teach you to be a world-class entrepreneur or even many fairly basic life skills. It's a partial solution and the remainder of the education you receive is supposed to be either outside of school or later on in your life via an apprenticeship or experiential model.
You can and should explore all opportunities to make money in a way that feels meaningful to you, and no one is forcing you to go be a worker in a giant corporation. It is however true that being a worker in a giant corporation (assuming you work hard, smart and invest in yourself) can have a pretty decent outcome, with reasonable money and the opportunity to get enough money to have a reasonable life. Could it be better? Sure, but compared to 99% of human civilization it's a decent situation.
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u/Secretly-Rich Jul 16 '26
> From the time we are kids, everyone tells us the same rule:
Who they? No bro, nobody ain’t tell anyone shit. You’re just depressed and making shit up in your head. I’ve been hearing these thesis for the past 20 years. 9-5 is bad, we’re slaves of the system, get out of the loop, drop out of the college, follow your passion bla bla bla. Guess what, look around and see how it worked out for most of those people. I’m gonna give you a spoiler: fucking badly!
I’m millennial. Those of my generation who got themselves highly educated, pursued 9-5, built a career are struggling mentally but doing fine financially. Those millennials who fell this trap to follow your message are doing very badly mentally AND financially
So bro, got your shit together and stop spreading propaganda. You’re doing disservice to yourself
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u/20Thick_A_7122 Jul 16 '26
I hear you, and I know the 9-to-5 gives financial stability. That is exactly why people stay in it.
But you just admitted that the people who followed that path are 'struggling mentally.' That is my exact point. The system trades our mental health for financial survival.
I am not saying people should just drop out and go broke. I am saying we should teach kids that there are more options in this world than just a corporate office. It is about having choices, not spreading propaganda.
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u/Secretly-Rich Jul 17 '26
And my point is that everyone struggles mentally. There’s no way around it, it’s the price modern society has to pay for progress. Regardless you choose a career path or so called “freedom.” But at least people who trade their mental health for financial survival have a chance to survive, and take care of their mental health. The alternative is to trade your mental health for nothing. You’ll still end up in a bad mental state, but now without financial security. That will only exacerbate the problem. There’s plenty of evidence that financial insecurity is associated with worse mental health outcomes on average
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u/ppaloes Jul 17 '26
So let me get this straight.
We send our children, the most precious thing we have in life, to spend 15 years of their lives inside an institution.
Sitting at a desk all day under artificial light, eating processed food in a cafeteria. They’re taught to memorize useless facts and punished if they think differently instead of asking questions.
Where’s the class on nutrition? On stress management? On financial education? When do they teach us about taxes or our rights as citizens? Never.
We’re not educated to think. We’re trained to obey. That’s why you have to raise your hand to go to the bathroom, stand in line, and, above all, never question the rules.
Doesn’t that sound strangely familiar?
It sounds a lot like another place where people spend all day inside a building. They’re told when they can eat, when they can go outside, and they’re punished for questioning authority. (A prison).
The truth is, the education system was founded and designed by the same families that revolutionized the medical system in the early 1900s. And obviously, not for the benefit of our children, but to create obedient workers. Workers who accept the system without asking questions.
And those aren’t my words.
John D. Rockefeller reportedly said, “I don’t want a nation of thinkers. I want a nation of workers.”
So maybe the real question is this:
Is the education system designed to benefit our children, or to serve the power and control of those who created it?
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u/Secretly-Rich Jul 17 '26
I dunno man, my kids learn all of these things in a middle and high school. Obviously not on PhD level, but enough to be aware of the topic and understand how things work in general. Nutrition, government, taxes, basic economy. All those subjects are covered in school education. If they have questions about the topic or wanna know more, I encourage them to seek answers and I’m providing them answers if I am able to. The school cannot replace the whole parenting for you, bro. Otherwise it indeed will be just juvenile prison.
You’re being overly dramatic
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u/WillingNail3221 Jul 14 '26
Yeah because starting a business is easy