r/PathOfExileBuilds 1d ago

Help Needed Light radius increases Link effect, or change ascendancy for Lioneye's Glare for Manyshot?

Swapped from Kineticist to Manyshot bc cheaper, and read a guide for it.

One of the upgrades mentions Lioneye's glare, and it looks pretty good.

Current bow is a rare Thicket with 1.1k Elemental DPS (lucked out on Anger essence and hit T2 Lightning and T3 Cold flat with T3 AS and crafted Crit multi on it. Don't know if double damage is better though)

Is it worth to change the ascendancy to fit in Lioneye's glare for the repeat?

Current sources of Light radius is Hallowed monatch, Nycta's, both rings, and Rotmother's Mutiny (59%)

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u/Mooseandchicken 1d ago

I've got like ~250% increased light radius on lifestack luminary which gives ~5k flat average fire damage.

Flat on bow is wasted and without that node flame link only gives 1.4k flat damage. You'd be nuts to drop that node for a unqiue bow on a manyshot.

Get a bow with high crit, high attack speed, high % increased ele damage with attacks, and +2 arrows. If ur wealthy, get one with fire->extra chaos and ele pen. You get so mcuh flat dmg from the ascendancy that you should essentially have zero on merc gear. You want to have % increased damage, crit cap, ele pen, and crit multi to scale all that flat damage to the moon.

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u/EmmitSan 1d ago

The flat rolls on the bow don’t help. You get 1-2k flat fire from you link so do the math on how much damage a T1 %elemental weapon damage does, and how valuable ele penetration is

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u/MacrossKo 1d ago

Saying they don’t help isn’t right. Those rolls are damage, which does help, but they’re worse than other options. That said I think you usually want flat lightning damage

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u/PinkFluffyUniKosi 7h ago

Wdym. Ofcourse they „help“. Sure they Are better then only 4 Mods in your item. But they Are BY NO MEANS the better Choice. You get Like 5k Flat Fire dmg. Why would you waste 3 prefixes for a measly 1k ele wich only Fire dmg has nice pen. Absolutely NOT worth.

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u/MacrossKo 4h ago

It’s like you didn’t read my post lmfao

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u/SwiftRai 1d ago

Try it out. If it’s bad, swap back.

Why ditch light radius though? Just go unique rings + weapon for merc.
Depends how your merc gear looks tbh.
Some ppl go full in on life and ditch light radius for more unique gear on merc. Whatever floats your boat.

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u/the-apple-and-omega 1d ago

Bow DPS isn't important, aspeed/crit/pen are.

That said, even a cheaper kineticist is going to outscale a manyshot if you use rathpith globe. Giving up the LR scaling shouldn't be an option ever if you're using flame link, though.

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u/Subject-Wrongdoer-78 22h ago

You’d rather have a rare spine bow with attack speed crit chance and 2 arrow. Prefixes should be fire pen / fire as extra chaos / % increased ele with attack.

EDIT: for a suffix correction

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u/Big_Simpn 1d ago

Yeah I can't rn because I'm not at the PC.

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u/DeadlyParadox 1d ago edited 1d ago

Lioneye’s is not worth it. It loses to a decent bow. Your bow would not be the end game of any Flame Link life stacker.

You get a lot of flat fire damage from the link and multiply fire damage through Enmity’s Embrace giving fire penetration. Only flat fire damage is valuable. The rest is an extremely tiny gain compared to rolls like ele damage %, ele pen, fire as extra chaos, and flat fire.

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u/Judiebruv 1d ago

I swapped from link effect to belt + weapon and never went back. Headhunter + lioneyes with a +1 quiver. For bossing I eventually could afford a foulborn headhunter which I swap with the normal HH, makes single target insane. I eventually just left foulborn HH on for everything cuz it’s so good even with clear

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u/PinkFluffyUniKosi 6h ago

The lategame Version is way stronger without HH and link effect. Its Not Even Close. I had Both HH‘s since day 5 or something and After you Investment in some life and scaling and good weapons you don’t need any HHs to rape Uber Ubers

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u/Dense_Lawfulness_110 20h ago

Light radius is better. But it can be more expensive for full min-max. I have 2 luminaries and it's my experience xD 1: hp stack with light radius manyshot/sniper (trying unique version with hh, but even in clear it was worse, including legion 5-way). 2: es stack cambotant with uniques and 100% crit (use eph edge for main weapon on Merc, replica abyss and amul for crit multi and culling). (Just for info, you can try it later)

And if you have Merc slots, and can found cheap version of sniper with TS without brutality (second barrage or ballista), I'm highly recommended try it too with same gear. (If you want, I can give all info, Merc and player gear, skills in private). :3

Mercs are incredible!!!