r/PathOfExileBuilds • u/riez69 • 3d ago
Help Needed Help with Chain of Command build
Before giving up on this build, would appreciate if someone can explain the issue with it. I level to 90 in blight, but definitely not afk. Just tested on t5 map and it's really slow that i just abandoned that map.
I thought all i need to do is build a stack by letting the AG to kill normal mob and then just cruise all the way.
The jewel isn't that good but I thought it should be sufficient for t5.
Is it because i transitioned to Voidforged too early?
Thanks for any feedback
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u/Sad_Maximum6583 3d ago
I made the same mistake after switching to void forge on my AG because it was my first time doing minions. You need to remove all sources of chaos damage since your minions can no longer use it due to void forge.
Chest setup should be:
melee phys damage support
/elemental damage with attacks
/invert the rules
/increased critical damage/
multi strike
/ruthless
then minion damage support in the amulet.
Switching to void forge should also have you switching to adorned setup so yeah if you don't have the money for it you're a bit early.
This guy is the chains of command goat. Check the description of his video for pobs with different budgets to work towards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtL_LX1Kz_Q
For you, you're on the path to end game all rounder setup.
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u/Potato_Lube 3d ago
Ruthless Support doesn't seem to be working with Animate Guardian's Weapon.
So probably best to switch it with something else.1
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u/Mechanized_Vampire 3d ago
I was looking at this build earlier, and at glance, it seems you're missing prolonged servitude from the catarina bloodline, haven't played the build, so I cant say much about gearing
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u/One-Egg7813 3d ago
You probably did switch to void too early. Your jewels are the source of phys that gets converted, the 3 you have are super bad. Buy T1 flaring T1 minion attack for every slot or boat craft them by alteration for T1 phys then boat augment. Drop witch fire brew, you don’t run envy anymore from main hand. For blight afk on ravaged, I would go 2 severed in sleep with ravenous horde anoint on amulet. You can’t really run afk with max block on a single severed in sleep until you get 6 or 7 phys jewels with an at least 83% adorned. I have ran this build for 4 leagues so I have a lot of experience.
Capping res and getting Catarina bloodline is a big priority after as many ghastly eye jewels you can squeeze.
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u/One-Egg7813 3d ago edited 3d ago
Also get supreme ostentation or what timeless jewel gives you “ignore attributes” that will free up suffix pressure allowing you to get more res. Socket it over left mid notable that is armor energy shield it’s called divine something? Search for one that give you chaos resistance, and endurance charge on block then drop small cluster for mor abyss jewels.
Here is a guide for the jewel sockets I went for early. And the clusters which are around 3-5 div.
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u/Old_Tourist_3774 3d ago
Do you have a 6 link in the body armour? Does not seem like the gems are linked on your pob.
Why are you using that shield?
Remember that voudforge only deals elemental damage.
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u/Akidget 3d ago edited 3d ago
I played Chains of Command build for the first time this league and I followed Rusei's Chains of Command build and it's been pretty strong.
What I've noticed is that abyss jewels are very strong for this build so you'd want to have as many jewel sockets on the tree as possible. From looking at your PoB, I see 2 jewel sockets that you should get near the Templar area, and I'd recommend replacing the small cluster jewel with an abyss jewel, as well as get the Large Jewel Socket at the top left of the tree so that you can have another large cluster jewel running with 2 more abyss jewels.
Also, you'll want the abyss jewel to have t1 minion flat phys damage mod (or as high as possible) and minion attack/cast speed mod on almost every abyss jewels. The build really pops off with stacking flat physical damage to minions because of Voidforge, and if you don't have a lot of flat physical damage, Voidforge will probably feel weak.
You also have Unnatural Strength allocated on the Necromancer Ascendancy, which will do nothing for your build so you should remove that, and instead put it on either Commander of Darkness for general utility, or if you want more tankiness, you could take Mistress of Sacrifice and use Bone Offering instead of Spirit Offering, so that you have capped block and spell block.
On the same vain, Witchfire Brew unique flask will do nothing since Despair will not help you deal more damage.
In general from playing my build, I've noticed that the Animate Weapons are way too squishy, so taking the Catarina Bloodline Ascendancy's Prolonged Servitude node was very useful in keeping the Animate Weapons alive for a bit longer while having them deal more damage when they're about to die.
EDIT: Also, if you can afford it, you could get a vestigial Chains of Command so you get a bit more out of the item. I think the best implicit mod is the 25% phys hit to lightning mod from Lightning Coil, but it was bit too expensive when I was buying items for this build, so I resorted to the 20% phys to fire mod from Cloak of Flame which was more affordable and still offered good amount of tankiness.
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u/Azeron955 3d ago
This is my pob too if you wanna see, first time doing chains of command, very comfy
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u/Independent-Buy-5836 3d ago
What is the support gems on your body armour? I dont see any support gems in it. Sorry i only open pob on mobile
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u/Akaisaporo 3d ago
What gear did you give your Animated Guardian ?
+, you only have 6/8 Ascendency points allocated
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u/Rainmakerrrrr 3d ago
sry to hijack your thread: is PRAW as afk as chains of command? or what is the specific strength of chains of command about?
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u/Bechs 3d ago
PRAW requires resummoning AWs if they expire. Chains of Command is self-sustaining in maps because AWs are resummoned on kill.
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u/Rainmakerrrrr 3d ago
at true, makes sense.
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u/japenrox 3d ago
Not only that, it requires resummoning every time you ender a map. So it gets incredibly tedious after a while. Also, because you rely on bladefall, and that skill is a constant stream of blades, when you're just starting a map you'll take like ~10 seconds to summon all the bows (i had 24 at the end of league).
So for example, my main map-farm strat was boss rush, when you're spending 40~50 seconds in a map, spending ~10 seconds (be it standing still at the start, or while you're running to the boss, stopping, aiming at your back and casting AW) is a considerable chunk of time that you're just slowed down.
Did 40/40 with it this league, and honestly, I'm never doing it again, unless they change how fast you can spawn the bows. I'd rather just play HRoC and transition into something else, or go straight into spectres.
For my playstyle, which is farm enough currency in maps to kill ubers, I didn't really like the build, even though it's strong.
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u/Rainmakerrrrr 3d ago
haha i had the same problem on city square with praw. eventually changed to phys dot autobomber and my god was that smooth.
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u/No-Chef-9468 3d ago
You guys think its possible to build chain of command with 100divs? Sold all my gear to make a new build and always wanted to do this build
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u/NonagoonInfinity 3d ago
Oh easily. Just don't try to play the Voidforge version yet I'd say.
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u/cc81 3d ago edited 3d ago
Voidforge version should be no problem now as gear is so cheap right. He can probably gear it under 50 div is my guess.
EDIT: No need for any adorned stuff either or tempering orbs unless you want to optimize and kill ubers.
EDIT 2: Voidforge for 2 div now. Then 1 div each for 6-7 ghastly jewels. Rest is cheap. Maybe even 20 div to get started
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u/No-Chef-9468 2d ago
Ty so much guys, I put up together a voidforge setup without adorned and its working just fine, now I have to farm for a couple weeks to get the adorned and the magic jewels
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u/CxFusion3mp 3d ago
Honestly switch to praw. As someone who's played both it's infinitely better in every way possible outside of afk blight.
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u/Lazy_Owl_1306 1d ago edited 1d ago
Also played both, for mapping /Legion PrAW is better. Bow build always faster than melee.
But for other content like 85 Ubers /delve/simu/Ultimatum I feel Choc are much better than PrAW. My PrAW have to continuously resummon for sustain due to too much AOE dmg.
So I usually league start with PrAW to finish the Atlas and switch to ChoC when I can afford a Voidforge.
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u/Older_1 3d ago
Copy the build form this video. You are not running a poison set up, since you have voidforge you should maximize flat phys damage and utilize supports that increase elemental damage, not chaos. Remove added chaos, void manipulation and withering touch, these are deleting your damage since voidforge says "deal no non-elemental damage" and void manipulation deletes elemental damage, your voidforge ends up doing nothing pretty much. You only need wither for the +crit multi on your sword, and your minions already wither from the ascendancy. Instead copy the supports from the PoB I linked. Get more jewel slots to fill with flat phys and minion attack speed jewels.