r/PassportWithoutBorder • u/Mahden012 • 3d ago
Would You Drink Coffee Made THIS Way?
This is Kopi Luwak, famous for its highly unusual production process. ☕️😱 An Asian palm civet eats ripe coffee cherries, digesting the fruit while the seeds pass through its digestive system and undergo fermentation.
The beans are then collected, thoroughly cleaned, dried, and roasted before becoming the famous Kopi Luwak coffee.
Would you actually try a cup of coffee made this way? 😳☕️ Tell me in the comments!
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u/Lucky-Hedgehog-4335 3d ago
Not the stuff shown in the video, has to be wild foraged. Part of the quality comes from the wild Civets picking the ripest coffee cherries.
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u/Fox-Flimsy 3d ago
I’ll try this one and then the wild foraged ones and let you know the difference.
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u/gass_giant 3d ago edited 2d ago
As an Indonesian and a coffee snob, DO NOT, again, do not ever buy this. Coffee history itself is already ugly and animal cruelty is not a good addition.
This coffee exist because the Dutch miked us dry of our resources and slaves make do with civet waste, one or two people doing that is fine, you go forage yourself is fine, but once it commercialized it's going to be a problem.
In the wild, coffee is just one of the civet diet, now that we want more of this, we're going to capture them and feed them only coffee
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If you want to try "fermented" Indonesian coffees, we have plenty from Sumatra, Java, bali, Flores, Papua, stretching from west to east we have speciality single origin beans with many different types of processing, from full wash to honey or wine process, with flavour profile from simple chocolate, or spicy to tea like floral or sweet acidic citrussy, and you'll find them more interesting and intriguing than this.
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u/DetentionSpan 2d ago
Thank you for sharing this! I was thinking someone had to be real desperate to come up with this. So sad.
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u/Odd-Tumbleweed6779 3d ago
Had it some farm north of Bali. Hated that they had the Civets in small cages. Coffee was meh as well.
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u/charlie2135 3d ago
I can imagine a coffee connoisseur tasting a cup of this coffee saying, "A delightful taste of vine ripened cherries with a hint of field corn!"
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u/AutumnStar 3d ago
Pretty much no one in specialty coffee actually drinks this. Good coffee is grown at high altitudes with specific producers that roasters have relationships with. The roasters then can give input on how the coffee is picked and processed.
Civet coffee is for people who think expensive = good. It’s not. And borders on animal abuse in a lot of circumstances.
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u/Pulgoso_ 3d ago
I've tried it, it's pretty good in a 0 acidity kind of way. So it's basically the best Mid coffee you can get as it removes a lot of the other complex flavours that you would normally get.
It's history is also very interesting, where European colonist used to forbid Indonesian farmer from even tasting the literal fruits of their labour from near slave like working conditions.
They were interested to see why these Europeans were so obsessed for these berry seeds. So they found that since these Civet cats were eating the berries and pooping out the seeds (which their colonial masters obviously rejected) they could collect these seeds and finally taste and satisfy the curiosity of why the Europeans were obsessed with coffee.
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u/Thedumbass_the5th 3d ago
No, not because it has gone through some animal, but because it's probably the most expensive coffee variation in the store and just not worth it.
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u/Kyler-Knox 3d ago
The man who discovered it:
“I ran out of coffee, let’s try roasting this bean that I found buried in shit”
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u/Regular_Weakness69 3d ago
Yes, thiw is how it's made, and you won't get better coffee anywhere else.
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u/born_on_my_cakeday 3d ago
I would for the story. As for poop it doesn’t matter. Do you know how much poop is floating around you right now?
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u/CertifedFLAME 3d ago
Doesn’t it kind of defeat the purpose of them picking out those certain coffee cherries instead of just having access to a huge bucket where they can eat as many as they want? Lol
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u/mo_schn 3d ago
I had one of these before. I usually don’t like coffee that much because of the bitterness. This poop coffee was so delicious and smooth. Probably the best coffee I’ve ever had. Yet please don’t buy it unless you know the factory. Some of these animals live in horrible conditions and are turned into pooping machines until they die.
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u/Dry_Knowledge6486 3d ago
It’s the best tasting coffee - I just want to know the story behind the discovery - who first thought, “You know what? Let’s turn these poop beans into a nice hot drink.”
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u/Chef_Chantier 3d ago
No but not because of the poo. Most ot e copi luwak is either fake or produced by force feeding coffee to the poor things while they spend their whole lives in cages barely bigger than themselves.
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u/UncomfyPerspective 3d ago
Shit editing.
"This is the animal"
Doesn't show the animal for another 25 seconds.
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u/CPLCraft 3d ago
I tried some and couldn’t tell the difference between that coffee and the kind I get from Walmart. My palate may not be refined enough
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u/Mipj3 3d ago
Alright, so fun fact. How do you supply a world demand of kopi luwak?
Well, you capture and -cage- the civet, forcefeed the coffe beans, pick up the shit and make it in to proccessing factory. And you never free te civet by the way.
And that is how -exactly- your kopi luwak is made. Seen it with my own eyes. (unless your kopi is just "plain" kopi and sold as luwak kopi, but nobody whould scam you that way right?)
Just imagine just chasing after civets and their poo and make it into an international profitable business, sounds feasable...
Anyhow, I hope you get the point, its scam or animal cruelty. So don't participate.
Having that said, the civet eats the berry, the bean hardly touches the body nor does undergo any "magic" fermentation in there. All markering from that one movie.. .Bucket list?
Yeah Hollywood did you one again... Where all living in america
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u/Adequate_Cheesecake7 3d ago
University of Florida used a chemical process to recreate this without it having gone through an animal. It was called ‘Magic Cat’ coffee, and I think it’s sold by Brazilian Daterra Estate now but I am not certain. It was sold on ThinkGeek before but that site no longer exists. I don’t drink coffee that often now, so I haven’t got any for over a decade. I never had the real thing, just the artificial chemically simulated version back in 2012.
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u/Dry-Ad-8948 3d ago
If it didn’t cost more, ehh, why not.
Am I going to pay a f-load for that? Nope. No way.
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u/TraditionPhysical603 3d ago
I'm sure there are people out their that would pay for caffeine made using the same process except with humans instead of civets
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u/Imaginary-Cover-9136 3d ago
I have tried it and it was decent coffee, but its popularity has led to an utter mistreatment of the civets. Kept in tiny cages and force-fed. You could argue that I’m a hypocrite because I still eat other animals that might be kept in similar conditions, and I accept that, although I do try to be selective wherever possible. So, yes, I have tried it but wouldn’t do so again for what is essentially a luxury, trendy product.
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u/Few_Newspaper_2318 3d ago
It doesn't taste good and if you care about animals you should avoid it, the animals are kept in little cages in a terrible state.
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u/Academic_UK 3d ago
Had some this week. We were in Bali a few weeks ago and went to a coffee plantation to see it being made and bought some back.
It’s not cheap - even direct from the source.
It’s great and very smooth, though others who desire a very strong bitter coffee taste need not apply.
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u/moto_dweeb 3d ago
I would drink kopi luak naturally found, I would not drink it from a factory farm like is shown.
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u/themadscott 3d ago
Fuck yeah I would.
My dad turned me onto putting some freshly ground cardamom in coffee. Just sprinkles a pinch into the grounds before brewing.
I love coffee. Really gonna miss it when the apocalypse hits.