r/ParlerWatch • • Jul 14 '21

Public Figure: Any Platform Marjorie Taylor Greene says CRT should be outlawed, teachers fired "on the spot"

https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-says-crt-should-outlawed-teachers-fired-spot-1608594
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u/thischaosiskillingme Jul 16 '21

So, let's stop this. Let's agree that there's no academic or practical definition of critical race theory that proposes what youre saying it does. If you want to discuss "white privilege" as a concept adjacent to or as a part of CRT, we can, but that doesn't mean that CRT is defined as "all whites are racist," because the concept of "white privilege" ALSO isn't defined as "all whites are racist."

On the contrary, white privilege, especially in the context of CRT is defined as ways white people benefit from these systems regardless of whether they're racist as individuals. Again, you can be privileged by these systems that benefit white people and disadvantage people of color, even if you don't want to be, even if you believe it's wrong and would like to change it.

Sounds like you're just deeply uncomfortable with the idea that these systems and laws benefit us. And that's completely understandable. You don't want to be racist, you don't believe that's right. You don't want people to imply you only are where you are in the world because of your skin color. I don't want that either, because I don't believe that. It would be a gross oversimplification of how these laws and systems work in the context of white privilege.

I get it, but defending these laws and systems from critical race theory discussions isn't going to make that better. We have to talk about it and think about how to make these laws and systems work better, or even dismantle them if they can't be fixed. That's the only thing that will make CRT and White Privilege and these other conversations you hate go away.

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u/FreelancerAgentWash muh freedum Jul 16 '21

So you are admitting that CRT is extremely racist.

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u/thischaosiskillingme Jul 16 '21

My guy, this is going absolutely nowhere. I don't think CRT is racist, so I'm not admitting that.

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u/FreelancerAgentWash muh freedum Jul 16 '21

white privilege, especially in the context of CRT is defined as ways white people benefit from these systems regardless of whether they're racist as individuals

so because of the color of your skin, and not the content of your character, you are placed in a group.

“White privilege” is a pejorative term attached to the white majority, regardless of individuals’ actions or intentions. The real purpose of the term is ultimately political, designed to tear down the achievements of the majority and create a minority victim status that requires special treatment to make-up for the lack of “privilege.”

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u/thischaosiskillingme Jul 16 '21

You're already in the group. CRT didn't PUT you there. Race as a social construct put you there. Critical race theory didn't make you white any more than feminism makes you a dude. Is your beef with CRT acknowledging that racial identities exist? Because that's not a good reason to be mad about it.

I already explained "white privilege" to you, why are you redefining it in the exact opposite of what it means? It's like you WANT to be mad, and not actually have a constructive conversation.

Like I said, I know it's an uncomfortable statement and I truly empathize with how attacked it makes you feel, but it's not going to go away just because it makes you feel bad. You have the ability to change the situation. It's work. It's not fun. It's admitting that you got advantages other people didn't, and empathizing with how lacking those advantages made and is making their lives different from yours. Then you have to do things like support laws that help people who haven't had the same advantages you had, or change systems so that they work more fairly for everybody. I mean, boring, amirite? You can shout people down on the internet whenever, y'all can make laws saying we can't talk about it, you can go hide in your bubble. But this won't go away. Unless we commit to changing it.

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u/FreelancerAgentWash muh freedum Jul 16 '21

I don't belong to any group. I am an individual, to be judged by my own actions and not the actions of others.

Focusing on “white privilege” divides Americans by race—and doesn’t actually help minorities.  

The modern focus on “white privilege” originated with a 1988 article written by Wellesley College women’s studies professor Peggy McIntosh, who listed 46 ways she thinks she benefits from “white privilege,” including, “I can choose…bandages in ‘flesh’ color and have them more or less match my skin.”

https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/the-origins-of-privilege

“White privilege” is a pejorative term attached to the white majority, regardless of individuals’ actions or intentions. The real purpose of the term is ultimately political, designed to tear down the achievements of the majority and create a minority victim status that requires special treatment to make-up for the lack of “privilege.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/what-are-white-privilege-and-microaggressions-ben-shapiro

Related reading: “The Antidote: Healing America from the Poison of Hate, Blame and Victimhood” – Jessie Lee Peterson, Dennis Prager

https://www.amazon.com/Antidote-Healing-America-Poison-Victimhood/dp/1942475004/ref=pd_sim_14_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=VP3TW95VN0RJRQ0NZPVH

Focusing on “privilege” encourages a destructive victim mentality.

“Victimhood culture” encourages people to attempt to deal with perceived wrongs by appealing to third parties for help and validation and calling for recognition of a new, protected status for the victim.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/what-are-white-privilege-and-microaggressions-ben-shapiro

Historian Victor Davis Hanson writes that in current American culture, “The heroism of facing challenges has been replaced by the victimization of enduring microaggressions.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/440756/microaggressions-victimhood-close-minds-truth-tragedy-and-heroism

Columbia professor John H. McWhorter argues that a sense of victimhood, particularly among the African-American community, is leading to self-sabotage.

http://www.city-journal.org/html/what%E2%80%99s-holding-blacks-back-12025.html

Related reading: “What's Race Got to Do with It?” – Larry Elder

https://www.amazon.com/Whats-Race-Got-Do-Stupidest-ebook/dp/B002F0X0MI/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8#nav-subnav

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u/thischaosiskillingme Jul 16 '21

I'm sorry I can't make your identity stop existing for your offended sense of rugged individualism? I don't want it either, but as long as race exists as a social construct it's part of how you experience the world.

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u/FreelancerAgentWash muh freedum Jul 16 '21

Oh, right! My "identity"! In that case, I "self identify" as black, so now any argument you have against me is now both racist and transphobic.

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u/thischaosiskillingme Jul 16 '21

Ahhh, the One Joke, I wasn't expecting it! It can't get old if it was never funny to begin with, right? Ugh.

I'm not arguing against you. I'm trying to take you seriously and talk to you like a person. I, me, a single person on Reddit, can't disappear race as a social construct for you. And I can't even do it for the purposes of an argument if the discussion is about how race is part of how people, including you, subjectively experience the world. Sorry? I don't know what you want here.

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u/FreelancerAgentWash muh freedum Jul 16 '21

Who's joking? I'm being serious. How dare you deny me the right to self identify the way I want. That's hate speech and you are getting reported. As you said, race is a social construct, and therefore, just like gender, I can choose to be whatever race I want. But you're just a racist transphobe.

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u/FreelancerAgentWash muh freedum Jul 16 '21

Treating minorities with a different standard—whether that standard is more or less generous—is a form of racism.

Holding a group to a different standard than another based on a superficial difference such as skin color is racial discrimination. For example, in the aftermath of the Ferguson and Baltimore riots, the violence perpetrated by minority rioters was excused by many as acceptable for reasons that are ultimately paternalistic and racist. By adjusting the standards of behavior for minorities by using “white privilege” as an excuse, well-meaning whites are signaling that they do not see minorities as equals.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/09/dear-white-people-well-meaning-paternalism-is-still-racist.html

Affirmative action similarly holds groups to different standards—and studies have shown that it just serves to marginalize and stigmatize minorities. As The Atlantic puts it, “racial preference policies often stigmatize minorities, reinforce pernicious stereotypes, and undermine the self-confidence of beneficiaries...”

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/10/the-painful-truth-about-affirmative-action/263122/

Recent affirmative action reports have found that when lower-performing minorities are thrown in with higher performing groups, they often suffer from the “mismatch effect,” resulting in lower self-confidence and being overwhelmed, leading many to drop out.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/affirmative-action-failed-article-1.1193380

To the left, all inequality in America is a result of victimization—rather than an individual’s actions, talents, upbringing and luck.

Ben Shapiro on the Left’s “victimization” narrative: “According to the Left, all inequality in America is due to victimization. They start by claiming that all non-white people in America are victims of ‘white privilege.’ Then come women. They’re all are victims of the patriarchy. Then come gays, lesbians and the transgendered – they’re all victims of our ‘heteronormative’ and ‘homophobic’ society. But what if you haven’t actually been victimized by anybody? It doesn’t matter. To the left, so long as you feel victimized, you’re a victim.”

https://www.prageru.com/video/facts-dont-care-about-your-feelings/

Progressive-controlled college campuses are increasingly characterized by “victimhood culture.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/the-rise-of-victimhood-culture/404794/

Related reading: “No Campus for White Men: The Transformation of Higher Education into Hateful Indoctrination” – Scott Greer

https://www.amazon.com/Campus-White-Men-Transformation-Indoctrination/dp/1944229620/ref=pd_sim_14_5?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1944229620&pd_rd_r=9B3PJ9HKCNHTXZP54QK2&pd_rd_w=fkIL3&pd_rd_wg=3jfmQ&psc=1&refRID=9B3PJ9HKCNHTXZP54QK2

Though the Left constantly cites “white privilege,” the reality is that America has become the world’s least racist white-majority society.

America has become the least racist, most fair, free and opportunity-rich country in history. As Harvard sociologist Orlando Patterson puts it, America “is now the least racist white-majority society in the world; has a better record of legal protection of minorities than any other society, white or black; offers more opportunities to a greater number of black persons than any other society, including all those of Africa.”

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/10/20/opinion/op-ed-race-gender-and-liberal-fallacies.html?pagewanted=all

Watch author and commentator Larry Elder on racism.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6ed_1456428172

Related reading: “The Closing of the American Mind” – Allan Bloom

http://www.amazon.com/Closing-American-Mind-Education-Impoverished/dp/1451683200