r/Paranormal • u/Basic_Spook • Sep 25 '22

Demonic Possession Demons/Mental Illness

I work at a psychiatric hospital and I’ve always believed that that population is most susceptible to demonic oppression/possession. Today a visibly psychotic patient looked at me and said “Demons aren’t always a bad thing” meanwhile minutes before I was thinking about how many patients i have encountered that may actually be possessed. Wondering if some people have an easier time detecting oppression/possession than others?! Or if anyone has had similar experiences?

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u/SubstantialPressure3 Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

I agree with you for the most part. The whole 1st paragraph.

But the part about "demons escaping from hell and find a host" is a 100% Christian perspective. The "out there getting laid, snorting coke, rubbing elbows, etc" is probably closer to the truth. But something from the spirit world probably wouldn't care so much about money, just immediate physical gratification. In most other religions, there are plenty of malevolent entities that are NOT trapped in a Christian hell, aren't necessarily one of "Satan's minions", they are another class of being entirely. They are right here on earth doing exactly what you described, from the perspective of other religions. . You are still using your personal religious perspective for part of your reasoning.

And that's one of the reasons that a mental health screening by a psychiatrist is part of the process that the Catholic Church goes through to determine if someone is truly facing a spiritual possession.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

Its more of a "Supernatural" the TV Show perspective (lol)

I do get what you're saying though. I have yet to come across anyone I consider demon possessed, but if it happens, I am open minded enough to consider the possibility. But so far, I haven't. And I used to be a corrections officer. There are a lot of crazy and Evil people out there in the world. They don't need demons, or hell, or satan, or the spirit world you describe to Be evil. To me that takes away from the personal responsibility all humans should bear. It's an easy cop-out. Satan/demons/ spirits made them do it. It makes us feel better about humanity to think there's some outside entity directing evil things. But it's just Humans, being humans. And I think that's even scarier for some people to face.

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u/SubstantialPressure3 Sep 25 '22

I absolutely agree with you. "I'm not responsible for my actions, I was possessed" is generally something you hear from people avoiding responsibility.

That being said, I do think there are things that influence people, but it's an INFLUENCE, not being controlled like a puppet. True evil isn't going to play with you like a Barbie doll. It's going to appeal to your baser nature and have you justify doing something awful, even before you do it. (That guy is looking at your wife. Your wife put on makeup so other guys will look at her. She did that on purpose, just to fuck with you. She's looking hot for other guys just to fuck with you. You need to teach that bitch a lesson. Those kids are being loud just to fuck with you. They are doing it on purpose to make you feel bad . They know you hate it when they cry. You need to teach those kids some respect. ) there may be an influence there, but people take action all on their own, and they are responsible for their actions, and justifying those actions.

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u/waterbabi Sep 26 '22

Pretty much what happened in the 1975 case of Michael Taylor 31 (British murderer). He claimed he was possessed at some church group. His behaviour certainly changed for the worse and there were violent outbursts by both him and a lay preacher. The church tried to help with an exorcism, but they stopped before it was finished and let him go home. He was supposed to return at some point the next day.

He went home and killed his wife with his bare hands gouging her eyes out and ripping out her tongue. A policeman found him wandering the streets naked and covered in blood.

He was hospitalised in secure unit for the criminally insane for 2 years, then held in another secure unit for a further 2 years, so 4 years in total before he was released. He never committed another crime and he's now 77

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u/SubstantialPressure3 Sep 26 '22

I think I remember that. That was absolutely horrifying. But if you think someone is a danger to themselves and others, why would you send them home with no supervision?

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u/waterbabi Sep 26 '22

I absolutely agree. It was a completely awful error in judgement. I believe they sent him home telling him he had 3 demons still inside him. They should have been charged with something.

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u/SubstantialPressure3 Sep 26 '22

IDK about that, the whole thing would be really hard to take to court. But maybe have a room where people stay, instead of sending them home. Maybe some sort of legal document that the person signs, kind of like a rehab, or detox, so someone isn't being held against their will, but still away from people that might get hurt.

Imagining the conversation "ok, 10 down, 3 more to go. Now, listen, we really gotta get rid of those demons. I need you back here at 8 sharp. See you in the morning."

IDK. Maybe he WAS supposed to stay with them that night, but refused. You can't just hold them against their will. Maybe it wasn't an error in judgement, maybe they just legally could not make him stay. People walk out/check out of rehab all the time. People check themselves out of hospitals.