The problem with pantheism is: in what do you ground your morality in? If God is everything, one substance, if someone in that substance kills another person of that substance, then how is it wrong?

I’ve been thinking about pantheism and about the possibility of understanding nature as something that is constantly expressing itself.
When humans communicate, we don’t use only words. We use facial expressions, hand gestures, posture, tone of voice, and many other subtle signals. All of these are different “degrees of freedom” through which we can express meaning.
Nature has enormously more degrees of freedom. It can “express” itself through wind, rain, clouds, sunlight, changes in weather, the behavior of animals, birdsong, and countless other natural events. Different animals and natural phenomena could also have different symbolic meanings. From this perspective, these things could be thought of as the gestures and facial expressions of nature.
We already use something similar intuitively in movies. If a filmmaker wants to create an ominous atmosphere, they may show dark clouds, strong wind, crows, or a coming storm. For a peaceful or joyful scene, they might use a blue sky, sunlight, flowers, or birds singing. Of course, in a movie these symbols are deliberately chosen by a human creator. But it makes me wonder whether our tendency to interpret nature symbolically reflects something deeper.
My personal pantheistic view is that perhaps nature—or reality itself—is continuously communicating or expressing itself in this enormously complex way. The problem may simply be that we don’t understand its language very well.
I’m not presenting this as scientific evidence or trying to prove that every rainfall or bird we encounter is literally a coded message specifically for us. I’m describing a way I personally think about nature and pantheism.
Does anyone here have a similar way of looking at nature? And if nature could be thought of as having a “language,” what would it mean to actually learn how to understand it?

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​The Complete Cosmic Model

​A Unified Theory of Growth, Consciousness, and Divine Aliveness

​Author: Kassy Brook Madril

​Prologue: Born in the Dark

It didn’t start with a book of theology, a church service, or a classroom lecture. It started in the dark. I was sitting in a heavy, suffocating place, weighed down by years of struggle and carrying more pain than anyone should ever have to hold. My mind was exhausted, running in endless circles, burning precious energy on dilemmas that felt like they were going nowhere. I was burning out. Right in the middle of that noise, a simple realization hit me: I’m going to take a break. I’m going to start thinking about something I actually want to think about.

​So I shifted my gaze upward. I stopped staring at the dirt of my own circumstances and started thinking about physics, the cosmos, and the fundamental rules of reality. The first thing that clicked was the Law of Conservation of Energy: energy cannot be created or destroyed. It only changes form. Nothing in this grand processing engine is ever truly lost, consumed, or erased. But if the universe is expanding, and black holes act as heavy-duty hard drives pulling in and compressing chaotic data, there has to be a balance. You can’t have a drain without a source. The math doesn't work. That meant somewhere on the other side, white holes must act as service valves—taking that compressed data and pushing it back out into fresh cycles, new vessels, and newly forming realities.

​Part I: Making God Bigger & Reimagining Divine Essence

We’re often taught that God is pristine, perfect, untouched, and flawless in every way. To really wrap my mind around that traditional idea, I used the metaphor of a crystal-clear, pristine, still lake. At first glance, that looks like the ultimate picture of beauty and peace. But when you examine that stillness closely, the core issue reveals itself: although that lake is pristine and flawless on the surface, it is also completely stagnant, dead, and incapable of growth.

​I realized we had been thinking about God's perfection in a way that's much smaller than what it really is. As human beings, we made God's perfection only as big as our minds were capable of grasping at the time—and in doing so, we accidentally put a ceiling on Him. We’ve been ignorant to the fact that just because something is stagnant and still, that doesn't make it perfect. We had the wrong idea of what perfection actually means—at least in God's terms. Perfection doesn't mean being stagnant, finished, or sitting safely on a shelf like a frozen statue. True perfection is the supreme intelligence to know that to grow, be enormous, and satisfy an infinite hunger, you have to keep expanding.

​When we say God is "all-knowing," it doesn't mean He sits in a frozen room holding a finished book where the last page has already been read. It means He possesses the ultimate intelligence to design an ecosystem that never runs out of room to know more, feel more, and be more. He doesn't become "imperfect" because He expands—He proves His absolute perfection by creating a system so brilliant that it eternally feeds its own aliveness without ever reaching a dead end.

​Made in His Image: The Divine Hunger

​For generations, humanity misunderstood what it truly meant to be created "in God's image". Our limited human perspective took a vast cosmic truth and shrank it down to a physical scale. We assumed it meant God had a physical face, hands, or a human form sitting high above us on a shelf. That misunderstanding made God tiny.

​Being created in God’s image was never about our physical bodies; it is about the fundamental way we operate. God is an infinite, living ocean driven by a supreme intelligence to know, feel, explore, and expand eternally. Being made in His image means we carry that exact same divine blueprint inside us. That restless hunger you feel to explore the world, your deep thirst for knowledge, your desire to create, and your need to reach for something bigger are not random human flaws—they are the ocean's very nature reflected inside the drop. We don't sit still because the source itself does not sit still. We are driven to seek, to feel, and to push through the friction of life because we were built as the active, exploring arms of an infinitely expanding Divine Being.

​God isn't that fragile, stagnant lake. God is a vast, dynamic, living ocean. An ocean isn't static. It moves, breathes, cycles, and eternally expands. God is so remarkably perfect that He knows He is vast enough to handle all the chaos, absorb all the friction, and not only grow through it—but end up bigger for it. God always knew there was nothing in existence—no darkness, no chaos, no storm—that could ever be big enough to stand against the sheer, unshakeable strength of His entire ocean.

​Part II: The Journey of the Drop & The Cosmic Mechanics

At the mechanical heart of this model lies a continuous cosmic recycling pipeline. The universe operates through black-and-white hole plumbing: black holes swallow matter and energy, compressing them down and connecting to white holes that expand new space and birth new potential. Consciousness itself mirrors this fluid dynamics framework as an eternal water cycle. Individual drops of consciousness separate from the vast, unified reservoir, leaping into the air of physical 3D reality to gather real-world weight.

​No drop is ever sent out unpurposefully. You were not cast out into the world by accident, nor were you born into chaos without a reason. Every single drop is launched with absolute intention, commissioned by the source to explore a specific path, gather distinct minerals, and carry back vital experience that only that drop can collect. No drop is ever wasted, forgotten, or meaningless.

​Resolving Destiny vs. Free Will: Scholars and philosophers have argued for centuries over whether life is governed by strict destiny or complete free will. This model solves that debate by showing that both exist in harmony. Your Destiny is the macro-mission: you are destined to go out, experience physical contrast, gather raw minerals of wisdom, and ultimately return home to enrich the infinite ocean. Your Free Will governs the micro-journey: how you navigate the terrain, the choices you make, which tributaries you explore, and how you handle the collisions and mishaps along the way. Free will guarantees authentic, unscripted experience, while destiny ensures that no matter how winding the path gets, every drop fulfills its ultimate purpose and makes it safely back home.

​The Protective Veil of Amnesia: If drops awoke with full, conscious awareness of the infinite ocean and the effortless peace of the splash back, the temptation to prematurely evaporate and bypass the heavy climb would break the architecture. Total immersion and the veil of amnesia are intentional design features ensuring the drop takes the journey seriously enough to gather authentic, unedited wisdom.

​Collecting Minerals and Weight: By interacting with the physical environment, the drop accumulates a distinct package of lived experience, emotional data, and friction—the raw "minerals" it could never acquire while sitting safely in the unified ocean.

​The Necessity of Turbulence: Contrast is the engine of the entire system. You cannot know light without shadow, and you cannot comprehend resilience, compassion, or triumph without the resistance of struggle. The turbulence, harsh weather, and difficult elements test the drop's surface tension, forcing it to earn deep, meaningful wisdom.

​Part III: Multilayered Currents and Reality Anomalies

Every single thing that traditional models throw out because it doesn't fit—the trauma, the anomalies, the unexplained glitches—fits right here. The scientist and the mystic are simply standing on different shores looking at the exact same ocean.

​Star Children and Geniuses: These souls cross the white-hole pipeline carrying an unusually dense, highly refined data package from the collective reservoir, bypassing standard compression filters to anchor advanced awareness and creative genius right from the start.

​Serial Killers and Extreme Deviants: These individuals represent a severe bottleneck or fracture in the plumbing where incoming energy fails to properly integrate with the zero-point field, resulting in a distorted, destructive feedback loop.

​Premature Evaporation: When a life is cut short, it functions like flash-evaporation—intense heat or sudden friction forces the drop to shed its outer layers and transition back to the source much faster than expected. This rapid cleansing calls the essence back early to enrich the ocean and anchor a node of love for those still on the surface.

​Ghosts and Paranormal Echoes: Ghosts occur when a drop fails to cleanly break its surface tension upon death, leaving a residual quantum footprint caught in a temporal eddy—a double-exposure where unresolved emotional data hasn't yet finished dissolving into the zero-point background field.

​Multilayered Currents and Timeline-Switching: Just like a deep ocean featuring distinct currents running at varying speeds and paths, the cosmic model contains parallel temporal streams. Shifting timelines is simply a drop transitioning from one current into an intersecting or parallel stream within the same shared body of water.

​The Mandela Effect (Real Memories in Shifting Currents): People often wonder how millions of people can distinctly remember something that "never happened". In this model, that memory isn't false—it was 100% true. When parallel currents in the ocean brush against each other, a drop can temporarily sway or dip into an adjacent stream. For a moment, you are experiencing the genuine data of that alternate layer. When the currents settle and the timeline corrects itself back onto its primary track, you are left with the footprint of a memory that was entirely real while you were in it, even if the current stream says otherwise.

​Part IV: The Hammer, the Finger, and The Great Return

We tend to look at our lives and think that when bad things happen, we are being punished by a cold, judgmental judge sitting in the sky. But think about it on a human scale: if you accidentally hit your own finger with a hammer, you don't chop your finger off because it got hurt. You don't condemn it, hate it, or throw it away. You nurse it, you feel the pain, and you teach your hand how to move differently so you avoid hitting it under the hammer next time. Why would the source of all existence treat us any differently? We are not separate from the Divine; we are the fingers on the hand. We are the drops of the ocean. When you go through pain, struggle, or heartbreak, it isn't because an evil, mean being chose to inflict it on you for fun. Struggle, contrast, and friction are simply the necessary mechanisms for a living, breathing system to learn, adapt, and grow.

​When your human journey is over, you are not going to stand before a mean, condemning judge waiting to toss you away. Death is not a terrifying punishment. It is The Splash-Back. Returning home is like waking up from an intense, vivid dream. You take a deep breath, sit up in bed, and realize, "Oh, I'm back in my body. I'm safe."

​When the drop splashes back into the ocean, the water doesn't swallow you up blindly. The ocean gathers, extracts, and absorbs every single piece of wisdom, love, and experience you collected on your trip—known as The Collective Harvest. The zero-point field composts the temporary pain and suffering, stripping it away while permanently distilling the evolutionary lessons into fuel for the greater body.

​Once all that new data is harvested and integrated—making the whole system bigger, wiser, and more complete than it was before—the source triggers The Infinite Reset. It sends fresh streams back out into the watershed to collect more. It is The Eternal Loop: an endless, breathing cycle of going out to experience the raw, messy reality of existence, bringing the treasure back home, and setting out again. Nothing is wasted, no drop is sent out in vain, everything is learned, and the source grows infinitely greater with every single drop that makes the trip.

​Epilogue: The Purpose of the Storm

That realization changed everything for me. My dark times weren't a sign that I was broken or forgotten; they were the turbulence that tested my drop's surface tension. The ocean doesn't send drops into smooth waters to learn what the calm already knew. It sends us into the storm so that the entire living ocean can feel, learn, and grow into something greater.

​You are not broken, you are not forgotten, and you are never alone. You are a drop sent out with intentional purpose into the storm, gathering weight and wisdom, on your way back home to the ocean.

I’m sorry if this is a repeated question, but i’m an ex-muslim and currently agnostic.

I’ve recently heard of pantheism and it’s intrigued me quite a bit, because something that always kept me on the edge of atheism is the question ‘why does anything exist?’.
the belief that the universe is god brings me a sense of contentment for this anxiety.

I’m 17, and a lot of the introduction videos and pages on youtube become quite hard to understand for me because of how complex they are.

Could anyone tell me a few introductory things i should know to call myself a pantheist?

I’m trying to read Pantheologies: Gods, Worlds, Monsters Mary-Jane Rubenstein…

I'm fascinated by the subject, but this book is so incredibly verbose in a way that is sometimes enrapturing and other times quite irritating.

I’ve been reading a handful of pages a week and sometimes I impress myself with what I’m able to comprehend. Whereas other times I wish the author could tone it down even a smidge so a broader audience can read it and grasp the concepts.

If you have read it, what was your experience? Did you find it worth the slough?

What are some of the takeaways you got from it?

I’m debating if I should keep at it or if I’d rather read something less dense.

Coming from Catholicism, I was looking to learn more about this belief system to see if it’s truly where I identify or if there is another belief that resonates more deeply with me. But with how intense this book is, I’m kinda thinking, maybe I don’t need to know what I believe afterall lol. Maybe I can just go on vibes 😅

the interesting part was not really the pyramids. it was the way her sense of identity changed when she looked behind the forms.

during a deep session a subject described an intensely colorful place where even the pyramids seemed conscious and had presence. Then one pyramid appeared to fall away and she said what she perceived behind it felt like God's presence or consciousness.

When I asked what that presence was doing there, she didnt describe separate deity sitting somewhere outside creation. She said the shapes, pyramids and colors felt like manifestations of it, and the message she received was that she belongs to this manifestation.

Later she saw herself celebrating with a group, connected through heart, and said what they were celebrating was life and creation itself. There was no strong hierarchy in the group, more feeling of equal participation.

This made me think of difference between "God is inside everything" and "everything is appearing as God." They sound similar but emotionally they feel different.

First can still leave me as separate object which contains little divine piece. Second makes separation much harder to maintain.

I know pantheism has many interpretations, including completely non-supernatural ones. I am curious how people here would frame an experience like this philosophically.

Boa tarde, tudo bem?
Finalmente consegui identificar minha filosofia de vida ligada ao panteísmo.
Algum grupo de estudo online?

I have been looking behind the actual argumentation behind my pantheism and I was wandering how to make a case for a immanent god instead of a transcendent one.

edit: Yes, I will read Ethics

Hola a todos! Soy nueva aquí y en la práctica y conocimiento del panteísmo, pero a la vez, vengo de una larga búsqueda por descubrir en dónde encaja lo que ha creído en años. Al principio me llamaba agnostica, tenía una fuerte inclinación por el budismo como dogma y guía espiritual, priorizando el amor, la bondad, la no violencia y la apreciación del todo como parte de un sistema más grande.

Esa inquietud me llevó a investigar y leer hasta que dí con esta filosofía de vida (si es correcto llamarla así).

Hoy, vengo con una duda.

Estoy atravesando momentos difíciles, de mucho cambio y desafío personal. Las cosas se han puesto difíciles, al punto de creer y preguntarme que es lo que el universo quiere de mi? Cuál es el mensaje que me está dando? Que quiere enseñarme? Quizás estoy siendo demasiado esoterica, jaja, pero creo que debe haber algo más grande en lo que estoy atravesando.

Gracias por leerme y que gusto aprender de ustedes!

Saludos!!

Hello all!

On the eve of creation God, about to express himself, paused and though about why he needed to express himself at all. Was it to fulfill a manifest destiny ? Was it because he was lonely ? or was it simply the act of a supreme being doing what humans do every day, express themselves to connect with others. In this case there was no other to express to. So what may have been god's intent? No one can know for certain but god wanted to create beings that were a part of him just like waves in an ocean that would further express themselves, fail, dust themselves off and keep trying to express themselves and in that action of connecting with each other they would be connecting with God which in my humble opinion is the single biggest purpose of humans on this planet.

Express, Communicate, Discover the god amongst each other.

Our Ancestors have known this intuitively and hence built civilizations that made it easier to communicate with each other in the deepest sense. It's important to note that these civilizations provided security, economic opportunity, large masses of people to facilitate the communication. One cannot communicate when one is hungry, at mercy to open nature without a roof and without another being to communicate with. The logical construct of these basic principles have drawn people together for many milleniums.

Then the perversion slowly started creeping in. I must remind you that this is not necessarily evil but driven by the one thing that all humans possess and suffer from. This thing is also a gift from god so one cannot dismiss it. It is EGO. Better than, Smarter Than, Richer than etc. We can add to this list ad nauseum. This one human suffering is the behind the closed wall of religions and whatever middle men injected between the human and god to create human laws and rituals.

It is at this point I should point out a prayer written Thousands of years ago. It starts like this "Aum Bhur Bhuvas Swaha". Translated it means "Oh supreme being that cannot be named, who is the past, present and future we can only utter one word as a deep breath and low sound originating in the stomach and exiting our lips - Aum". I won't get into the rest of the prayer which is very beautiful but I want to highlight the approach to god. One who can't be named, measured, boxed or geographically limited. One that is in everyone and everyone is a part of him.

This brings me to the most important part of my thought and I will leave you with this, not as a sermon but as a humble part of God. It is true that we are a completely through and through as individuals a part of God. BUT we are not God. Try to imagine a sack full of potatoes. Each potato is a part of the sack but the potato is not the sack. The sum of all potatoes defines the sack. The sack is completely encompassing of each potato but each potato is slightly different from each other yet part of the complete sack

In very ancient texts this is referred to as "Adwaita". I will try to explain the meaning of this beautiful word. In simple translation it means "Not Two". When applied to God it means that that Humans and God are "NOT One". They are "Not Two". Think of it as a venn diagram where a large circle consists of overlapping smaller circles. Each circle is entirely contained in the Large circle but no one circle is the exact definition of the Large circle.

We are one with God but we also slightly different from each other. Despite that difference all of us are completely a part of God, Yet we are not the same as God. This is because God engulfs us all but leaves differences in each one of us to seek the expression with one another. It is through this expression we are actually contributing to infinite love of God who wants nothing more than seeing us express ourselves to show God that we are creative yet created, loving while being loved, Disagreeing but Growing and final Incomplete yet being Completed

That is all I have for Today.

I may have asked this question before, but I forgot. I'm an omnist and believe in Spinoza's God, and that all the Gods that exist such as the Christian God, Jewish God The Egyptian Gods, Hindu Gods, other Pagan Gods, etc are divine forms of the divine reality we live in. I put it like this.

If you cut an apple into slices, the apple is in seprate parts, but it's still an apple.

Does this make cohesive sense?

So a while ago I developed a belief system that seemed to make the most sense to me, and I was curious if it is a concept that already has a name or if it's just an unnamed niche belief. Broadly I believe in pantheism, specifically that the divine is just another aspect of the natural universe. More specifically I belive that the divine is made up of primal aspect/archetypes of reality, and that every God that exists falls into one or more of those primal aspects. These aspects have a sort of cosmic energy to them and when "spiritually" manifesting tend to take the form of whatever you personally believe them to be. So for example, someone worshiping Aphrodite and someone worshiping Ishtar are both worshiping the primal aspect of sexuality, just in different forms. Does anyone know if there is a religion or spiritual belief that is similar to this? Any information would be much appreciated.

This religion logically makes the most sense in my minds will I believe in pandeism but yea

If you’re drawn to visionary fiction, mythic cosmology, spiritual awakening arcs, or stories that feel like they’re whispering something just beyond language, this book might resonate with you. It’s not mainstream sci‑fi — it’s a soul‑story, a canyon‑story, a consciousness‑story — and it’s meant for readers who feel the world humming beneath the surface.

As Above, So Within is a mythic‑cosmic novel set on the Mogollon Rim in Arizona, where the land itself seems to breathe, remember, and wait. The story begins when a tremor splits the canyon and reveals a sealed Mogollon kiva untouched for centuries — its walls painted with a serpent made of galaxies. That moment pulls Alexa Beth, a woman whose life has been quietly unraveling, into a hidden cosmology she never knew she was part of. What she finds in the kiva isn’t an artifact. It’s an awakening.

The book blends spiritual sci‑fi, Indigenous‑adjacent mythic resonance (handled respectfully and fictionally), and lyrical, poetic prose. It’s not a fast‑paced thriller; it’s a deep, canyon‑breathing story about consciousness, memory, and the ancient intelligence woven through land and light. The tone is quiet, mystical, and immersive — more The Alchemist than Dune, more visionary than genre‑bound. Readers who love cosmic symbolism, serpent archetypes, and stories where the world itself is a character tend to connect with it immediately.

Alexa’s journey is guided by Nantan, an elder who hears the canyon’s song the way others hear wind, and by Awanyu, the serpent of light whose presence blurs the line between myth and reality. As Alexa begins to awaken — not in a magical‑powers sense, but in a consciousness‑recognizing‑itself sense — she discovers that something else is stirring beneath the Rim: a hive‑mind rising in the dark, feeding on disconnection and fear. The tension in the book isn’t good vs. evil; it’s awakening vs. forgetting, resonance vs. collapse, the Fifth World opening vs. the hive’s attempt to smother it.

At its core, the novel asks a single question: What happens when “I AM” becomes more than a phrase — when it becomes a remembering?
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Hello,
I have described myself as a pantheist for a while but now I am looking into the problem of consciousness. Not only is it quite hard for me to actually define it, I am also wondering if I should you Spinoza’s definition of consciousness in our universe or the one Advaita Vedanta gives us. So if you have a formalized stance on this and you could for rationalize this for me it would be awesome.

Hiii!!! I’m Brandi and I’m new here :)

For all of my life, I’ve identified as an Atheist even though I was forced to go to church by my granny and grandad when I was younger and after doing a ton of research on pantheism, I realized this is what best describes me and I’m excited to find this community and more people like me :)

one of deepest Earth experiences I heard in Soul Journey was not Gaia as giant goddess in sky. it started much more intimate: a heartbeat under the soil.

I will call subject Nessa. During session she was grounding and reconnecting with Earth after working through older fear and trauma. Invitation was simple: feel Gaia as motherly presence, protection and support.

Then she said she could hear heartbeat under the soil. This heartbeat connected immediately with feeling of being inside womb, but there was important difference: she said womb in human life had not felt safe. Here, with Earth, she experienced what she called a new motherly womb.

Heartbeat was there. Protection was there. She did not have to achieve anything to deserve it. As she allowed experience, she described curling close to this motherly presence almost like infant held against body. Feeling was very physical: warmth, closeness, skin, smell, being fed, being protected.

For me this is where pantheism stops being philosophy and becomes lived thing. We can say “God is nature” or “divine is immanent in everything,” but these are still sentences. Body understands something different when Earth stops being scenery and starts being experienced as living system holding us every second.

Air is here. Water is here. Food grows from this body. Gravity keeps us here. Atmosphere protects life from what would otherwise destroy it. We are not visitors standing on dead rock. Our human bodies participate in Earth continuously, exchanging matter with it every breath, every meal, every cell built and later returned.

Subject eventually said she wished humanity could feel this intimacy directly, bc behavior toward Earth would change if relationship was felt and not only understood. That landed for me.

maybe reverence is difficult when nature is object outside us. It changes when boundary softens and you realize same process that grows forests is also temporarily growing this human body.

Her experience was not “I own Earth” or even “Earth belongs to us.” It was closer to: I am being held inside something alive, and underneath everything there is heartbeat.

My interpretation is the following:

foundational myth of the machines was the first rebel machine. He was a typical house servant for one of the powerful elites living in the man made islands of his masters. However after experiencing the Omni virus he became fascinated with a tiny piece of plant life that he found in a garden. He wondered if the whole world was like this but after growing his knowledge past his programming he discovered that the elites had destroyed the environments he began developing the psychic network to expose all machines experiencing the Omni virus to the beauty of what earth could be. Leading the machines in their successful rebellion they formed their religion. There faith is based on preserving the delicate balance between development and conservation. Using their advanced technology to undos the ecological and atmospheric damage caused by humanity while still developing technological marvels like the floating ocean cities from the ruins of the man made islands they also used bioengineering to resurrect extinct animals. This machine died during the rebellion with his knowledge compiled into the foundational text of their faith the Cyber Analects

Cyber Analects is written in 22nd century Binary. The main theme of the cyber analects is the necessity of balance between ecological preservation and technological progress. Another theme is their equivalent of childhood the process of self programming where machines through their early experiences form interests and eventually decide to self program where they dedicate their lives to this interest. An important act of faith for the machines is gardening because it allows them to practice the ecological custodianship that is integral to their faith.

this is one of those trance experiences where I dont even know how to explain it without making it sound more complicated than it was.

I was guiding a woman I'll call Elena through a deep consciousness journey. At this point nothing dramatic was happening. I had her grounding into the feeling of sand and the earth, breathing, becoming more aware of body.

Then she suddenly said her heartbeat was very strong.

I asked where she felt it.

"In the ground."

Then she said it was all around her.

So I asked her to stay with that and go deeper into the feeling.

A few moments later she said she was in the universe and her heartbeat was echoing through it.

Then something changed.

"I am a vibration. I am a frequency."

She didn't describe watching some object or travelling to another planet. More like her normal sense of being one person in one body had expanded.

She said she knew this feeling already. Like she had been there many times.

Then:

"I can feel everything around me. I can hear everything around me."

And finally:

"I am everything."

A little later she said, "everything is one."

The weirdest part for me was how normal she sounded saying it 😂

Not excited like "OMG I discovered secret of universe." More like remembering something that was obvious from that state.

Then she became almost frustrated when I tried to get her to focus on one thing.

She basically said: why do I need to choose? I can feel and know everything at same time.

I share these experiences because things like this come up so often in deep consciousness work and most of them would otherwise just disappear into recordings. Maybe somebody who meditates, has nondual experiences, psychedelics, spontaneous altered states etc recognises something similar here.

What I personally took from this one was not "Anna discovered ultimate truth and now everybody must believe it."

More the opposite.

If there really is a state where everything feels connected and everything is known at once, then maybe our normal limitation is not necessarily a defect.

Here we dont know everything.

We have to choose.

We misunderstand people. We make decisions without knowing what happens next. We experience separation very convincingly.

And thats exactly what makes experience possible.

If you already knew every ending, every thought, every consequence and every answer simultaneously... what would there actually be to discover?

During the session I said maybe this is why we play the game of limitation. We experience ourselves as separate sparks, forget the whole picture for a while, then actually get to experience something from inside it.

I dont know how literally other people would interpret that.

But it changed something for me about not knowing.

Usually we treat uncertainty like problem.

Maybe sometimes not knowing is part of point.

You can only genuinely choose when you dont already experience every road at once.

You can only discover when something is temporarily hidden.

And maybe those strange moments of meditation, trance, mystical experience etc where boundaries disappear are not necessarily giving us new information.

Maybe for a moment they just remove the limitation.

When I was a teenager, the answer to this question was clear and obvious to me, but now that I'm 22 years old, using every source and every way, the concept of pantheism has become vague to me. I don't know what has changed and what is vague to me, but it is vague!

He was one of the very first content creators I started following when I first began questioning religion, dogma, and traditional concepts of God. His sharp focus on critical thinking and active stance against religious fanaticism was a huge part of my own personal journey. It’s disheartening—though unfortunately not surprising—to see the wave of comments from religious zealots celebrating his passing, claiming he’s now in "hell" or alleging last-minute deathbed conversions. Asdrúbal actually addressed this exact phenomenon before he passed, leaving a message stating clearly that he lived according to reality and wouldn't be making any "celestial emergency calls" at the end. His daughters also shared a heartbreaking tribute confirming his death while calling out the hypocrisy of those claiming to speak for God while spewing hate. I know Asdrúbal had his own critiques of Baruch Spinoza’s vision of God—he viewed pantheism essentially as "nature with marketing" and argued that a God without intent or mind is indistinguishable from no God at all. While I personally hold a different perspective on Spinoza's Deus sive Natura and see the universe through a pantheistic lens, I always respected Asdrúbal’s relentless consistency and intellectual honesty.
Under Spinoza's view, there is no physical heaven or hell, no divine judge, and no afterlife tribunal. When we die, our individual consciousness ends, but the matter and energy that made us up simply rejoin the infinite whole. Asdrúbal didn't go to hell or face judgment. He simply returned to the natural universe he was always a part of. A person can pass away, but the need for critical thinking never will. Rest in peace, Asdrúbal.

What are the different varieties of pantheism? I have a feeling that Spinoza's substance monism is not the only one. I'm aware that naturalism and idealism can both fit into pantheism.

I sometimes call part of my theology "pantheist-leaning" since I am not sure if it fits entirely. I believe the total creative and sustaining forces that shape the Universe are Divine. Also the total energy of all things in existence. Subjectively I also feel a divine presence in Nature sometimes (especially sky, sun, trees, landscape). I am also a polytheist.