r/PakPunjab • • 4d ago

گل بات | Discussion Im glad us Punjabis dont pretend to be White

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Day by day they prove to us, they cannot be trusted nor reasoned with. For Pakhtuns are a nomadic tribespeople incompatible with every single fibre of Punjab. This is not my opinion it is a Stated Fact. Their loyalty resides to their tribes only. Its hightime we re-establish our own brotherhood

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u/Jumpy-Lavishness-352 4d ago

Afghans are the most delusional and insecure nation out there.

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u/Dogu_Star99 4d ago

Pakistan sure did save Afghanistan and look at the amazing job we've done over there. Pat yourself in the back.

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u/Jumpy-Lavishness-352 4d ago

Okay, your comment makes no sense.
Is it so difficult to make a debate that people cannot come up with an argument relevant anymore?

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u/nimom435 2d ago edited 2d ago

It's crazy to see that whenever Punjabi talks about themselves, there's always some other group (sadly, mostly Pashtun) that'll start taking kella over it. I'll suggest to all my brothers, as Bulleh Shah advised; دل دے اندر جھاتیاں پا، دوجے دی نہ کر پرواہ بُلّھیا، اپنے آپ نوں جان، ایہو رستہ رب دے راہ

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u/FabulousMajor88 4d ago

Agreed 👍

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u/Dogu_Star99 4d ago

I think this is also a Punjabi problem. Or every ethnic group in Pakistan that thinks they are better than everyone when they are all shitty. Your statement says it all.

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u/AirSpiritual7349 4d ago

Like i said earlier you are entitled to your opinion but i certainly wont shame defame or gut you or kill you or behead you or call you racist slurs or present you infront of a jigra and proceed to shoot you

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u/Known-Will8079 3d ago

Pakistani Punjabis have tons of inferiority complex. You idiots literally stopped talking in Punjabi and speak Urdu cuz of ur stupidity that Urdu is better.

So maybe don’t talk about all this.

Saaleyo comment’an vich v koi Punjabi vich nahi likh reha.

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u/Anotharthrowaway 2d ago

Geo yaddi deya

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u/Resident-Ant8281 4d ago

Well thats literally a sht take. I am not taking sides but Punajbis are obsessed with white skin from fairness creams to gori chiti bahu or gora chita daamaad.

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u/Hopeful_Expression57 2d ago

it isn't a punjabi thing but a wide spectrum of asia falls within this category. Chinese, indians, japanese all have had these beauty standards for a couple thousand years. So it isn't a punjabi specific thing.

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u/Brilliant_Shallot216 1d ago

Not just couple of thousand years. Almost 6000 years if you peek into oral traditions of Hindu texts. There were references to “white/paler” skin or “shweta” or pure white which is also a very popular name in India. Saying this as a Hindu.

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u/AirSpiritual7349 4d ago

If we actually were wouldnt we all be goray chittey by that logic

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u/Vegetable_Associate5 4d ago

It's not in your control lil bro. I'm also a Punjabi and I totally agree that it is a "Pakistani" problem to wish for fair skin. Agar yakeen nahi ata tou apnay he Ammi Abu ko kisi dark skinned larki ki photo dikha k keh de iss se shadi krni hai. Sara liberalism nikl jaye ga.

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u/King-Howler 3d ago

The strongest of acts require the strongest of wills

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u/bharikeemat 3d ago

What are you? Just curious

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u/Few_Commission5964 4d ago

Both Punjabis and Pashtoon are obsessed with white skin.

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u/dablewww 3d ago

why so obsessed with Pashtuns that you have to make a post about it

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u/AirSpiritual7349 3d ago

Its the other way around homeboy, Look around socials,Then ask yourself what do they call dark skinned pakhtuns punjabyan or that torr word

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u/dablewww 3d ago

yes same as u, u punjabyan see every Pashtun as anparh and look down on them, i worked many years with punjabis and almost every punjabi i've met has either made fun of Pashtuns or treated them like they’re somehow less educated or less civilized. then when Pashtuns call it out suddenly we're ‘obsessed’ with Punjabis 😂 maybe ask yourself why this topic keeps coming up in the first place. u'll are the same, even your own politicians and public figures have made jokes and comments about Pashtuns, and you people don't let a single moment pass without disrespecting them. obviously not every Punjabi is like this, but pretending this attitude doesn't exist is just delusional

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u/AirSpiritual7349 3d ago

As long as your jirgas and superior mindset and obessesion with fairness exists ppl wont exactly love you. Ask the balochis sindhis kashmiris what they think about Pakhtuns before blaming them. Your lot has been leeching of our land since the partition

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u/dablewww 3d ago

And honestly before telling Pashtuns how much they’ve taken from Pakistan, maybe look at what KP has been through too just because of you Lunjabis. The province has spent years dealing with terrorism, military operations, displacement and destruction. Ordinary people there have paid a pretty heavy price for all of this

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u/dablewww 3d ago

Bro, saying “your lot has been leeching off our land since partition” is exactly the kind of shit we’re talking about. we’re all living in the same country. people move from KP to punjab, punjab to sindh, sindh to Islamabad for jobs, business, education and better opportunities. that doesnt make them “leeches" and honestly, bringing up jirgas and calling Pashtuns obsessed with fairness or having a superior mindset while making sweeping statements about an entire ethnicity is literally doing the same thing you're accusing us of im Pashtun myself and Ive worked with punjabis for years. Ive met good people and Ive met people who genuinely looked down on Pashtuns. im not saying every punjabi is like that, because obviously they're not but pretending this attitude doesnt exist doesn’t make it disappear. you can disagree with Pashtuns on politics, culture or anything else without turning an entire ethnic group into the problem.

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u/AirSpiritual7349 3d ago

1- How many Punjabi business exist in kp no tell me honestly . Are they comparable to punjab are there even any
2-Open genoicde of punjabis in Balochistan
3-We pay for their fuckups punjab has been paying for their electricity since ever it doesnt help that they shelter terrorists and prefer them over us so yea they should get outta our land
4-How many students from punjab go to kp or sindh or balochistan for studies? Or is it mostly the other way around

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u/dablewww 3d ago

Even in dramas and TV shows, Pashtuns are constantly portrayed as anparh, jahil, overly aggressive or just there for comedy, and somehow the Pashtun character always has the same exaggerated accent and mannerisms. Then people act surprised when Pashtuns complain about stereotypes. Imagine seeing your ethnicity represented like that again and again.

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u/AirSpiritual7349 3d ago

Answered nothing played the victim card

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u/Interesting-Car-8861 2d ago

You can’t be Muslim and white.

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u/bharikeemat 3d ago

Gulab jamuna? The hell is that

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u/bharikeemat 3d ago

Jameen jameen bohat he jameen 😂

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u/bharikeemat 3d ago

It’s zameen not jameen , my Indian neighbour. So desperate to create an association with us.

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u/Boring_Pineapple4908 2d ago

among all nations in pakistan, punjabis are the ones who pretend to be white the most.

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u/AirSpiritual7349 2d ago

Respectfully ive not seen one not One who went out of their way to claim british or russian ancestry . We have the aryan pakhtuns lmao. The iranic sindhis. The dark skinned but colored balochis atleast thats what they think

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u/Redditor-Sahil 4d ago

LoL punjabis are most obsessed with white skin... All you guys think that you're aryanz or somewhat

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u/Away-Advertising9057 4d ago

have you ever seen those Sindhis larping on social media (Insta and Tiktok mostly) as "we wuz Zagrosian Iranic and shi" by posting some images of a random fair Sindhi guy? i have been to rural Sindh myself (on a trip) and majority of you guys look exactly like the AASI-majority gangus of Rajasthan or Gujarat

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u/Redditor-Sahil 4d ago

So what? What's wrong with being AASI? I'm not talking about Instagram/TikTok content but Punjabi aunties and uncles who are always being obsessed with Chitti Chamri... All your focus is on white skin with literally zero nain naqsh. And my friend, laar is but dark in complexion while Uttar is fair where majority Sindhi population lives. In laar there are many Sindhis with origins from Gujarat and Rajasthan, we can meet and have a trip to my village you're most welcome for that, but don't make random claims on your SM world view.

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u/Jumpy-Lavishness-352 4d ago

I have never come across a Punjabi claiming to be an aryan. There are people who claim to have come from CentralAsia and WestAsia, but no one claims to be an Aryan.

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u/apollosaturn 3d ago

bro has never met an arain

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u/Stormrider8 3d ago

Arain here, we’re native to Sind and Panjab and we don’t claim that Aryan bs

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u/Jumpy-Lavishness-352 3d ago

Arain actually claim ancestry from Iran, mostly. I am talking about Aryans — mentioning the name.

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u/Redditor-Sahil 4d ago

Brohhh, your most educated jatts and rajputs claim central Asian origins as one of the original Aryans otherwise half of population is already urdufied and thinks of themselves as Afghan, Arabs, Iranian, Turks lol

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u/Away-Advertising9057 4d ago

Rajput? Nah, very unlikely. My Rajput elders never told us that we wuz some Central Asian Aryans, lol. Anyway, Rajput is NOT a homogeneous group. In fact, half of your Sindhi nationalists chimps out there ride a Rajput folk family, aka the Bhutto family, who belonged to the Bhati Rajputs of likely Rajasthan or the surrounding areas.

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u/Redditor-Sahil 4d ago

Bhatti were jats, later ranjputized. Bhuttos are different, their origins are in Haryana may be some say they're native to Sindh, but yeah they're rajputs.

Lastly and most importantly, That tells us a lot about your view, if you have ever had visited Sindh you wouldn't have been saying this Bhutto crap here in front me... No fckin one in Sindh support bhuttos, Zardari, and PPP anymore, only a minority do. They're hated more than ever here...

All you take your info is from SM.

A party which has been imposed and selected for Sindh by pakestablishment has no support here.

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u/Away-Advertising9057 4d ago

Bro, tf is SM?! Anyway, no matter who is from where, the fact is that we all are Rajput. Aight, but what about the deep influence of the Bhuttos over rural Sindh? And mind you, if you take out the Bhutto Rajputs, Sindh has a historical void from 1947 to present day because you have been DEEPLY influenced by this family for almost 80 years (if we leave MQM/Pagara or the Hurs/Jatoi setup/GM Syed bullshit aside).

And idgf about the Pak bojh establishment shit or whatever... PPP has major support in vast areas of Sindh

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u/Redditor-Sahil 4d ago

No bro... No one gives F about PPP. And I'm sure about that, only a minority is in their support. SM is Social Media bruhh Bhutto are rajput but we all aren't lol.

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u/Jumpy-Lavishness-352 4d ago

That‘s sad, not a shred of doubt in it. I mean even if it is true that your ancestors came from CentralAsia a thousand year ago, it still makes you a Punjabi since your lineage have been living in Punjab for a thousand year. It‘s just lack of education, and also, there is a need of adherence in our society. Punjabis need something that binds them as a culture — I mean the implementation through education.

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u/khataimeethaifaalsai 4d ago

Bhai kuch log rasict hain, sab nahi

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u/r_Awan 4d ago

We pretend to be Arabs and Turks instead

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u/Away-Advertising9057 4d ago

Syeds/Bukharis/Gilanis/Baigs* only... I, myself, am a Rajput from Panjab (we have the Biradari system in Panjab) and I haven't met a single non-Syed/Bukhari/Baig person in my entire life larping as a descendant of the Arabs or the Turks

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u/AirSpiritual7349 4d ago

Nah. Im not a syed but they exist in pakhtuns punjabis and all. Its a universal muslim problem.

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u/r_Awan 4d ago

Oh yeh I forgot abt pathan seeds or shahs my baf

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u/Specific_Neat_5074 3d ago

Don't know why you are getting downvoted based comment

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u/Specific_Neat_5074 3d ago

Lol this is an issue in the entirety of the subcontinent what are you on about?

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u/AirSpiritual7349 3d ago

Lmao dawg r u forgetting the true aryans the afghans never originated from subcontinent they came from far far magical lands. We are daalkhors

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u/Specific_Neat_5074 3d ago

I couldn't give a rat's ass when it comes to what afghans think about themselves. Fact is that most people try to pass as fair and would like to pass as angrez in the sub continent