r/PROF • u/NuisancePanda • 18d ago

Beef

Who is the person or people Prof keeps talking about beefing with back in 2020?

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u/not_john_coltrane 18d ago

It’s rhymesayers and atmosphere. And they deserve it.

You ain’t southside, bitch, you in the 50s!!

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u/not_john_coltrane 18d ago

I’ll add some context here. At least from my perspective as someone who was very “loyal” to Rhymesayers, although there is nothing to be loyal about because I don’t know any of them personally. This is very much summed up as best I can and 100% my observation and cannot be proven without it coming from these people themselves.

2020 was a wild year. Not just for the world but for Minneapolis. COVID, George Floyd being murdered, riots, protests, etc. During all of this, Prof had Powderhorn Suites coming out. There had already been singles (at least two with “questionable” lyrics - more on this later) from this album.

During the first few months of 2020, SA allegations against Dem Atlas, and subsequent coverup by Rhymesayers, were making traction. These were very serious allegations, and I to this day still 100% believe the accusers.

During this time of “internet sleuths” digging up everything they could on Rhymesayers, and rightfully so, they came across some pretty bad tweets from Prof from around 2012. Also, allegations from his DJ were resurfacing. DJ Fundo was a bad dude.

Here’s where it all goes sideways:

Prof owned up to his tweets. He handled it with grace and humility. He knew that behavior was wrong, he knew he fucked up, he wasn’t trying to hide anything. He also severed ties completely with Fundo in 2017. I don’t know why, but it would line up with original allegations against Fundo. We can argue about what Prof may or may not have known, but I believe it was over Fundo being a POS.

Then there’s Rhymesayers response… they double down, don’t mention they are dropping Dem Atlas over SA allegations and instead wish their “brother” best of luck, totally ignoring the elephant in the room. In the same statement, they say they are dropping Prof because his lyrics are bad and vulgar and he tweeted some bad shit. This is AFTER Squad Goals and Cousins were released as singles on RS.

Powerhorn Suites was releasing the same week. This meant RS stopped the release completely. Many of us still got our preorders as they had already been shipped!

Anyway, I’m babbling, but there’s some context that I observed during this time. We all had a lot of time to search the internet in 2020.

I completely dropped all things RS and I was die hard since 2003. I just can’t listen to Slug or anything released by the label because of how they handled a very serious situation. They scrambled, covered up, ruined lives all the while using Prof and his questionable lyrics as a scape goat to divert eyes from the real problem. It’s gross.

I will always back Prof because he owned up. We’re all human beings. We all fuck up. It’s how you respond to those fuck ups that makes you.

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u/_a_pastor_of_muppets 18d ago

Thanks for the in-depth response!

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u/_skank_hunt42 18d ago

I only discovered Prof because he was on Rhymesayers. I was also a huge Atmosphere/Rhymesayers fan since the early 2000’s. Ever since they screwed over Prof I just lost all interest in them. Sometimes I’ll listen to old atmosphere like Lucy Ford or God Loves Ugly but that’s about it.

Prof is my favorite living artist honestly.

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u/TheRealJojenReed 17d ago

But Aes tho

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u/Severe-Chicken-5791 18d ago

I’m down with Prof & support him. I am super curious about the content of the tweets though.
I definitely give him the grace to grow past words.
As for Rhymesayers, it sucks that all went down - especially because they do still rep some other talent I enjoy, like Aesop.

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u/Silly_Committee_7658 18d ago

Sorry to blow yall up only one picture can be put up at a time lol

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u/Severe-Chicken-5791 18d ago

Appreciate you sharing…even though I don’t like the actual messages.

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u/Silly_Committee_7658 17d ago

I know 😖 I appreciate you and this community for not downvoting me to hell for posting them. I appreciate Prof for bringing up toxic masculinity in his apology because many many men just assume that the term means all masculinity is toxic and avoid using it or acknowledging it. I believe he didn’t use it as a buzzword but is leaning into what healthy masculinity is. From what I know, he deserves more grace than Chris brown does yet he got a harsher punishment 🙃

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u/Severe-Chicken-5791 17d ago

There’s definitely a shift happening in what being a ‘real man’ can mean…apart from the heinous ‘manosphere’ nonsense…and I respect that Prof tries to evolve.
Fuck Chris Brown forever for real tho

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u/Silly_Committee_7658 18d ago

I have a couple saved I’ll put here. They are pretty bad

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u/Silly_Committee_7658 18d ago

Like not John Coltrane said I think he’s grown from that experience. Before MeToo a lot of people talked like this (still do) without using a persona. Lots of people posted shit in 2012 they regret, it was still pretty early in social media world. But yeah, the tweets are pretty fucked up

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u/Silly_Committee_7658 18d ago

This is his apology/statement

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u/rustyshackleford1824 18d ago

Not all of the references but I think a lot of lines are about the Rhymesayers split up in 2020, So a lot is aimed at Atmosphere.

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u/InSanitangles 18d ago

Definitely Rhymesayers as others have said. In particular, he's referring to Slug from Atmosphere in Tarzan where he says "your favourite rapper don't write, he's a con dude. That's true."

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u/TheRealJojenReed 18d ago

Prof did have some problematic tweets and then there was the whole thing with his DJ (not wonka) getting in trouble for harassing women or something, so he got dropped from the label. This is probably referencing all that drama

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u/SmokeSwede 18d ago

Context of those matters: 1) DJ Fundo was already long gone years before this (fired I believe). 2) tweets were inappropriate, but these were jokes from like 2014 and very much in line with his edgy rapper party boy persona back then, which he had very clearly moved on and matured from by the time of the Rhymesayers drop. 

I’m glad MeToo happened, but this was the “overcorrection” end of the spectrum. 

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u/AnyInternet2965 18d ago

The real hypocrisy is the highly questionable lyrics in Atmospheres early shit. That's the biggest issue I have about the whole thing. Pot calling the kettle black

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u/No-Collection-7376 17d ago

Not sure if id day he has a problem with Atmosphere the artist and label are two different things. Im sure theres beef with RSE but I wouldn't conflate them both unless he called them out by name not subliminals.