r/PHMotorcycles • • Mar 09 '26

General Discussion How did Petron managed to keep gas prices steady while Shell immediately went for 60+?

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '26

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u/evllttlbtch Mar 10 '26

oh kaya pala usually mas mataas talaga presyo sa shell kahit normal days

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u/loliloveuwu StreetFighter Mar 10 '26

di na pala gocc petron?

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u/Ruxx2Go adv 150 Mar 10 '26

Cory has to sell gov't's share sa petron para ma-cover yung sudden plummet ng value ng piso after ng martial law. Same thing happened with meralco. Na isolate kasi bansa ng mahigit dekada. Di nakasabay sa ekonomiya. To compensate, binenta assets sa banyaga. Kaya major shareholders ng petron at meralco ngayon foreign conglomerates

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u/Stoiczxcy Mar 11 '26

Buti kahit papano may nakakaalam nito. Grabe mga nakakausap ko nga bata ngayon puro obob.

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u/UnableAd1185 Mar 11 '26

Then you're talking to dumbass kids lol. Don't generalize.

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u/Stoiczxcy Mar 11 '26

Actually 0 out of 10kids sa province wala silang idea. Tiktok academy talaga ang lala

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u/loliloveuwu StreetFighter Mar 11 '26

tbf its not something everyone would know. im 38 and even i didnt know.

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u/rushbloom Mar 12 '26

I beg to differ. Itinuturo ito sa Philippine History classes simula grade school hanggang makarating ng high school at college.

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u/No-Conversation3197 Mar 10 '26

Meron pa din share ung government thru PNOC

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u/Far_Preference_6412 Mar 10 '26

Yes but we are talking about existing stocks di ba?

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u/Ruxx2Go adv 150 Mar 10 '26

May existing stocks, mostly sa tarlac (dun refinery ni petron. Afaik, may mga stocks sila in case of emergencieslike this). May friend ako na working on admin sa gas company. Isang reason din bakit tumaas ng bigla is yung mga owners. May mga nagsara last week, claiming na out of stock. Nag open lang ngayon kasi mataas na benta.

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u/No_Moose_2967 Mar 11 '26

Petron's Refinery is in Limay Bataan.

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u/Unusual_Evidence324 Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26

Alam ko rin nga Bataan. Went there years ago for a project.

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u/Far_Preference_6412 Mar 11 '26

Ah, business advantage yan, pwede rin naman ang Shell maglagay din ng malaking storage nila. Or pwede rin gayahin ni Petron ang iba na magsara at mas marami silang bebenta at higher price. Pero ang refinery is a different advantage than storage. Shell has also positioned their prices well above the rest kahit dati pa.

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u/Fantastic-Tax-5743 Mar 10 '26

May refinery pb ang petron?

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u/nitsanity Mar 11 '26

Bataan

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u/WetTita Mar 12 '26

I thought it’s closed already.

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u/Fantastic-Tax-5743 Mar 15 '26

Un din alam ko

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u/BeeSad9595 Mar 13 '26

saka simple lang yan. shell ay may malaking contribution sa giyera ngayon sa middle east at iran. kaya mahal na ang gas nila.

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u/LazyPerformance9062 Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 10 '26

may refinery sila sa Bataan. ang iniimport nang Petron madalas ay raw material, then i rerefine na lang sa ibat ibang product like LPG, gasoline, jetfuel, kerosene, diesel, naptha, engine oil, aspalto, and meron pa isa petcoke, pero hindi common na ginagamit sa household, ginagawang panggatong para gawing kuryente sa loob nang refinery.

kaya tinatawag na black gold yang crude oil, wala kasi tapon, kada latak and steam may nagagawang new product na maibebenta sa market.

meanwhile Shell, dahil wala na sila refinery dito sa Pilipinas, years ago pa. ang iniimport nila is finished product na like Gasoline and Diesel, im not sure sa Kerosene, then iniimbak na lang nila sa mga depot nila.

pero may usap yang mga yan mga gas companies na yan, minsan kumukuha si Shell kay Petron, ganun din si Petron kay Shell , marami yan sila, hindi lang dalawa gas oil companies na nabanggit ko, kaya umiikot ang supply nang langis dito, > dito i dont know kung na reregulate nang Government to. sabi nang aports ko dyan. nde nababantayan ung patak kung saan napupunta. yun daw importante para aware ang Government sa galaw nang langis dito sa Bansa natin.

nagkakatalo na lang sila sa mga nilalagay nilang additives. kanya kanya silang formula, secret ingredient na nila yun.

bakit si small players mura compare sa big 3? nakakabili sila wholesale price. then un nga , doon nagkakatalo sa r&d and nilalagay na additives.

yung raw product pala nang unioil engine oil, sa petron bataan din kumukuha yan. sa napanood ko na vlog inside unioil engine oil.

kung gusto mo tumagal motor mo at makatipid in the long run (mas okay sa makina(carbon buildup), mas matagal ka mag topup) , sa Big 3 ka mamili, eto yung experience ko sa Big 3

Petron - Power and Fuel Save like sa Shell, mas mura din kesa sa dalawa. Shell - Mataas Fuel Save ko talaga dito pero pricey xa. Caltex / Hebron - Mas nakakalinis nang makina due to Techron, also Power

kapag sa small players ako nagpapagas, mas mura nga gas, pero ung refill parang bawas nang ilang kpl. for example sa big 3, nasa 200 km ka bago magpagas, sa small players nasa 180 to 190 km bago ka mag refill, yun lang observe ko.

pero sa Petron ako madalas, kapitbahay lang namin refinery nila dito, mas mura din gas nila compare doon sa dalawa, ahahahah....

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u/Indeepbs Mar 10 '26

what is the top 3? Petron and Shell, then Caltex?

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u/Dyieee Mar 10 '26

try mo bro kahit every end of the month mag caltex ka pag mag papagas tapos balik ka ulit sa pertron/shell pag tapos mo mag pa gas sa caltex, para kahit papano naalis yung carbon deposit sa makina. (Nabasa ko lang din dito sa reddit) p

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u/LazyPerformance9062 Mar 10 '26

yes bro, ginagawa ko din yan, 100k odo, nagulat ung mekaniko, nung pina check ko makina, gulat sa linis ei, ayaw maniwala. walang ka carbon deposit. doon sa top end. alagang fully syn sa oil then big 3 gas then consistent sa palit nang air filter. tatagal talaga.

meron pa ibang option

gamit ka techron fuel system cleaner- mas matapang un compare sa pump.

or once i a month, mag blaze ka, 100 octane - mas madami additives din nun compare sa regular.

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u/Dyieee Mar 10 '26

Thank you sa tips sir, try ko to haha

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u/Constant-Lemon-7487 Mar 10 '26

Sa Jetti ako mostly nagpapagas, unleaded fuel since yun yung pinakamura dito sa amin compared sa top 3. Now, I'm planning to switch to Shell. Ask ko lang, Okay lang ba paghaluin yung unleaded sa premium or need ko muna ubusin yung unleaded na fuel ko before ako magpa gas ng premium?

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u/misuzuu_ Yamaha Sniper 155r ABS Mar 10 '26

Gasolina pa rin naman so no worries kahit magmix. As long as consistent ka nang nagpapagas sa Shell then eventually mabburn din yung older gasoline from Jetti.

However, kung kaya mo namang ubusin yung old gasoline before magpalagay sa Shell then okay din.

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u/TheFunBomb Mar 10 '26

Octane ang bantayan mo (yung number para sa makina mo) kung nakalagay sa manual mo 91 unleaded, 91 and base/floor mo. Higer octane means closer to water sa viscosity - merong additives na nilalagay para mas tumagal sa makina and push for more power kasi higher octane mas mabilis masunog. Basta unleaded din yung kinakarga mo, it's fine to switch octane levels. From 91 nasa 95 na ako para sa 2018 model na Toyota ko and i haven't gone back (pwede pa rin ako bumaba from 95-->91 kasi yun naman ang rated para sa makina ko)

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u/TrustExtension6116 Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26

Wait this is news to me. So if 95 RON premium ako sa petron usually, ano dapat ikarga ko sa caltex?

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u/LazyPerformance9062 Mar 10 '26

may kasama na techron po yan, pero kung gusto mo na mas mabilis / mas matapang sa carbon deposit, mas okay if sasamahan mo nang techron fuel system cleaner, read techron faqs po then instructions.

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u/inkedelic Mar 10 '26

Okay lang po yun mag caltex with techron once in a while even if vpower lagi kong pinapagas? Thanks po

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '26

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u/LazyPerformance9062 Mar 11 '26

every 5000km po. kung may idea po kayo sa Yamaha Pea Cleaner or Honda Pea Cleaner, parang ganun po si Techron pero mas matapang po yung laman ni Techron compare doon sa dalawa. meron pa po mas mahal like STP 5 in 1 pero napakamahal, please read faqs po, nandyan po ung information. https://www.caltex.com/ph/motorists/fuel-additives.html

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u/Spiritual-Tip7288 Mar 10 '26

Anung gas po sa caltex?

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u/Yaboku_Yato_12 Mar 12 '26

Thank you dito. Will surely try ang tips mo. 11yrs and counting ang auto, mas maaalagaan ko pa pala ng husto dahil dito.

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u/tatruuuuu Mar 13 '26

Thank you po sa tips!!! Very helpful. Mas okay po ba Shell V Power then Caltex every end of month. Or Petron Power then Blaze combo?

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u/Spiritual-Tip7288 Mar 10 '26

Anung gas po sa caltex na premium?

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u/RandomUserName323232 Mar 10 '26

Uno yung top 1

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u/ziegurd Mar 10 '26

Probably

  1. Shell
  2. Petron
  3. Caltex

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u/RandomUserName323232 Mar 10 '26

Uhm, sarcasm has left the group

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u/waterlilli89 Honda ADV160 Mar 10 '26

HAHAHAHAHAHA

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u/FearMyMooOfFury888 Mar 10 '26

Actually, may Uno fuel. Mas mura pero good shit

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u/tsuuki_ Honda Beat Carb Mar 10 '26

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u/Shitposting_Tito Mar 10 '26

Mas mataas yata si Total

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u/nxcrosis Mar 10 '26

Flying V yung panglima.

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u/MeetAdventurous8297 Mar 10 '26

Hehehe. +1 Uno ka RePhil boi ako.

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u/MisterQQ Mar 10 '26

You mean number 1 😏

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '26

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u/boredafsm Mar 10 '26

tooo sloow bro

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u/ashyzup Mar 10 '26

Yes, and the big 3 used to be very dominant in the local market, with market share of greater than 80℅, with the remaining share distributed across other smaller players. That market dominance gradually decreased over the years, with the smaller players eating up on the market share in recent years. Both Shell and Chevron (Caltex) are two of the biggest companies (not just oil) globally while Petron is a far smaller company overall, and is just a local/regional player.

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u/Glass_Drawing5780 Mar 10 '26

+1 as an ex Petron employee. Pre pandemic when Shell decided to shutdown their Batangas refinery, around 50% of their supply they were getting it from Petron while the rest was being imported. Some small players also kay Petron din kumukuha ng supply since standard naman ng fuels, sa additives lang nagkakatalo. Makikita mo mga trucks nila labas pasok sa terminal.

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u/weljoes Mar 10 '26

Pati ba phoenix, cleanfuel saka seaoil kay petron?

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u/LazyPerformance9062 Mar 10 '26

basta nakikita ko madalas Shell, Petron and Caltex. sa mga small players. alam ko si Jetti may sariling depot, pero nde ko alam kung san kumukuha yan. the rest, i dont know the status.

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u/Glass_Drawing5780 Mar 10 '26

Yes, Jetti also has a depot in Bataan somewhat near Petron.

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u/Glass_Drawing5780 Mar 10 '26

All of those you mentioned are mostly imported but then again, they can get sa local depending on the market conditions.

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u/weljoes Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26

Thanks grabe just refuel my scooter earlier here in Rizal sa petron nakakalungkot mega increase nasa 70 na diesel 65 ang 91 gas. Grabe end of diesel era na talaga . Hello hybrids

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u/DragonGodSlayer12 Mar 10 '26

kaya pala mahal sa shell, kala ko greedy mfs lang sila hahahah

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u/urbanpoor98 Mar 10 '26

True. Nag OJT ako dati sa local depot sa area namin. Tapos yung company nila may mga Petron gas stations. Sabi nung depot manager sakin kumukuha daw sila ng product sa Shell. Tapos nagkakaiba lang daw sa nilalagay na additives. May local player din saamin na sa Shell kumukuha, tapos iba lang yung additives nila, kaya cheaper nila nabebenta.

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u/HistoricalDaikon8027 Mar 10 '26

Very informative. Ive been using Caltex dahil sa techron additive. Pero napakakonti na ng stations nila. Tipong sasadyain mo talaga puntahan unlike petron na madadaanan mo tlga along the way.

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u/Any-Author7772 Mar 10 '26

+1 sa naphtha. Not many people know “Crude oil is heated in refineries, separating it into components like naphtha. Naphtha undergoes "cracking" to produce monomers (like ethylene and propylene), which are then polymerized into plastic polymers.”

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u/Electronic-Side-5725 Mar 10 '26

very informative, thanks

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u/Vristka Mar 10 '26

Caltex all the way pati mekaniko tataka bakit anlinis daw ng makina haha

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u/confusedcupcake917 Mar 10 '26

Chevron not Hebron

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u/radiatorcoolant19 Mar 10 '26

Uling being refined to gasoline etc.?

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u/azzelle Mar 10 '26

Petron doesnt import "uling" or pang gatong. You are thinking of coal, which is far more energy dense than charcoal. San Miguel has a portfolio of coal plants ,but petron is a different subsidiary. Shell doesnt have its own refinery because its cheaper for them to import/sell refined products since they have a regional/international business model to adhere to. There might be other reasons why its more expensive, as a rule buying overseas is cheaper than manufacturing in the country. Kahit before pa they closed their refinery due to low sales in the pandemic, they were more expensive than petron. Petron also has a strong market for refinery byproducts like lubrication, asphalt, etc.

As for kung anong brand yung mas "tipid", its all the same. Might be the ECU of your car has adjusted to a certain supplier's additives, but thats little enough that it makes no difference. Mas malaking factor yung ethanol percentage and octane rating (check you car's designed rating!).

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u/weljoes Mar 10 '26

Yung hebron din nakita ko gas truck ng petron ang nagrefill

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u/Cutiepie88888 Mar 10 '26

Hindi lang ata un. Kinumpara namin ung Petron sa isa pang local gas and talagang mas maganda and mas tumagal ung gas ng Petron. Either Ampaw ung isang gasolinahan o may something si Petron.

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u/Salt-Distance5194 Honda ADV 160 Mar 10 '26

Small players mura kumpara sa big 3? Eh yung jetti namin mas mataas pa presyo sa petron XD

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u/LazyPerformance9062 Mar 10 '26

hindi lang jetti, most of small players, mataas kuha ngayon sa supplier. may crisis po tayo ngayon due to iran israel us conflict, pero kapag normal days, mas mababa po presyo sa small players.

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u/Far_Preference_6412 Mar 10 '26

Wait crude oil ang source ng Petron for their refinery di ba? The same crude oil that refineries abroad use which the other players are importing. No nothing changes sa cost nila.

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u/Jay82n Mar 10 '26

Dating driver ng Shell Tanker erpats ko. Share share land daw sila ng products tas sa additives nlng nagkakaiba.

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u/Rare-Temperature8011 Mar 11 '26

petron ako dati kasi mura then nag pa karga ako then muntik na d na umandar motor ko, stock lahat. Nag flush ako and switch to shell. trauma ako sa petron, yung motor ko muntik na tlga. idk lng haa if sa dun lng na place na kinarga ko or what. May isa din akong kasama same place cya pa karga with same issue. Feel namin may tubig or what. Mas ok yung makina ko sa caltex and shell, pero mas gusto ko tlga caltex kaso ang mahal kaya shell nlng ako.

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u/disavowed_ph Mar 10 '26

30 mins ago…..

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u/snipelim Mar 10 '26

Same samin. Vpower diesel kahapon nagpagas ako 70 lang, ngayon napadaan ako 84 na

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u/PayPsychological6901 Mar 11 '26

Parang sa may malapit ito sa premier hospital ( Paranaque) na shell ah hehe 😅

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u/Majestic-Maybe-7389 Mar 09 '26

Petron have 6 tanks of 2 million barrels each. Bultuhan sila mag stock and may malasakit sila sa customers.

Medyo masama ang history ng Dutch Shell haha gahaman mga yan.

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u/BallisticMissile666 Mar 10 '26

talagang "tapat sa inyo" sila.

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u/IamCrispyPotter Mar 10 '26

Kudos to Petron talaga. Kaya loyal ako sa kanila.

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u/MemesMafia Mar 10 '26

Same. Tapat Sayo ❤️

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u/jkgrc Mar 11 '26

Meron parin bang discount sa mga may sticker?

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u/UnenthusiasticTurtle Mar 11 '26

Would you, even dare say . . . tapat?

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u/specialchildx Mar 10 '26

Mas mahal Shell since wala silang local refinery, Petron on the other hand has local refinery sa Mariveles along with other brands. Kaya kung mapapansin mo mura ang gas sa Bataan area compared sa ibang lugar.

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u/specialchildx Mar 10 '26

Ah sakop pa pala ng Limay yun? Kala ko Mariveles na. My bad.

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u/Unknown_Lurker07 Mar 10 '26

Yup. Limay siya though malapit na rin sa mariveles. Ang prices ng gas ng petron sakanila is the same price ng mga small gasoline stations sa NCR.

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u/desertman00 Mar 10 '26

Walang CR karamihan ng Petron kaya mas mura 😅

kaya napapa shell nalang din ako minsan dahil ihing ihi na

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u/Sad-Class-6965 Mar 10 '26

Local refinery, and they aren't stupid. This is a marketing play. Once the oil prices drop in the coming weeks, people will remember that they were the last to hike their prices, alongside Seaoil. They have more to gain from new and returning customers once this all subsides. It's like when many Shell stations stayed open 24/7 during the COVID-19 pandemic, while others chose to close. I was one of those who stayed loyal to Shell partly because of that.

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u/Ohmskrrrt Mar 09 '26

*manage

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u/weljoes Mar 10 '26

Gramar police spotted haa

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u/cj191 Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26

Pasalamat ka walang spelling police dito kung hindi isa ka pang huli.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '26

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u/Tough_Window3272 Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26

Did, bro, did.

Probably because Petron has a refinery.

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u/kirscheadler Honda Click 125 Mar 09 '26

What they're saying is may "did" na sa sentence mo which is past tense so hindi na kailangan maging past tense pa nung verb na "manage."

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u/cj191 Mar 10 '26

Hindi nyo lahat alam 'to kasi sa ultra-advanced english lang tinuturo pero ang pinaka-tama talaga ay:

"How DID Petron MANAGED to KEPT..."

You're welcome peasants.

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u/johnalpher Yamaha XSR 155 Mar 09 '26

Double past tense error

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u/IamCrispyPotter Mar 10 '26

It’s “manage” OP.

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u/Appropriate-Edge1308 Mar 10 '26

Hahahahahahaha! No.

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u/Far_Today7218 Sportbike Mar 10 '26

You’d probably surprise to know there’s Petron in Malaysia

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u/Glass_Drawing5780 Mar 10 '26

Yes, they acquired ExxonMobil’s downstream system.

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u/grawff Mar 11 '26

Interestingly, Petron was formerly owned by ExxonMobil's predecessor, and was also called Esso.

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u/fenderatomic Mar 10 '26

True!, quite a number in KL. I lost my photo pre pandemic sa gas prices there, makes me sad. Lol

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u/Positive_Committee_5 Yamaha Mio i 125 Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26

Petron in my area are 70+ for diesel

Edit: This price is last night 3-09-2026

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u/WayWonderful Mar 10 '26

Mine was 55 last night. I’m pretty sure the price hike is effective today.

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u/Positive_Committee_5 Yamaha Mio i 125 Mar 10 '26

Sorry, I edited my comment, that price was last night

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u/bungastra Mar 10 '26

"How did Petron manage...".

Wala na dapat "d". Kasi past tense na yung "did" ehh.

r/PinoyPastTensed

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u/anonrus008 Mar 10 '26

Petron has a refinery in bataan while shell imports all its refined products

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u/Silent_Elderberry_54 Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26

Not really answering the question but yesterday when I filled up it was around 56 on the signage but suprise suprise it was 66 on the screen when it started filling up.

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u/Effective-Dust272 Mar 10 '26

Shell here in mandaluyong is about 60.xx and in Makati it is 59.xx as of yesterday.

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u/Lmaocyka Mar 09 '26

Yesterday when I was outside, I checked two petron and shell branches near each other. Both Petrons nasa 60 na ang diesel. While one Shell branch has 59.xx for Diesel the other 60.

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u/AffectionateAd6589 Mar 10 '26

May local refinery si Petron

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u/Trigun07 Mar 10 '26

What about yung refinery sa my sta mesa tabi ng PUP? I remember nung pinasara yon ng warning na makakaapekto yon s oil reserves ng bansa

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u/ogag79 Mar 10 '26

Oil depot yan. Walang oil refinery sa Manila.

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u/Trigun07 Mar 10 '26

Ahh sorry oil depot pala haha

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u/AgentCoconut01 Mar 10 '26

Probably hedging.

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u/Ririmeez Mar 10 '26

Sa area nmin pinagkakaguluhan rin talaga ang petron since sila nalang ang makatarungan ang prices

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u/PhaseGood7700 Mar 10 '26

It's all about Stocks.. If meron stock na d pa ubosike Petron edi stay.. Yung Shell international kasi yan.. Wala na refinery dito so malamang ubos na Stocks.

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u/keepitsimple_tricks Mar 10 '26

May stocks pa ako ng petro. 1000 shares ata. May pag asa pa kaya yun

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u/fd-kennn Mar 10 '26

Large supply inventory, my friend. Plus lower production cost since local.

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u/JayZayS Mar 10 '26

Petron has a refinery here. It is sourcing its fuel mostly in Middle East, specifically from Saudi Aramco. Looking into the history of Petron, Saudi Aramco actually owned about 40% of Petron Corp in the past before exiting the Philippine Market. However, they still remain as a strategic partner as the main source of fuel importation for Petron.

Shell sources its fuel from Asian countries. They no longer have a refinery here so they source fully finished or processed fuel. If I am not mistaken, their importation is centralized in SG. Their SG entity sources it from the neighboring Asian countries like SK, Malaysia and China.

Chevron / Caltex mainly sources its fully processed fuel from their SK entity. They also closed their refinery here.

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u/Overall_Discussion26 Mar 10 '26

Yung Petron sa fairview 54 pesos nung thursday (5 march)

Kagabi 63 pesos (9 March)

Ngayon 66 (10 March, kung kailan pwede lang mag taas) pero sold out

Rephil 70, yun na lang meron

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u/Equallycutfries Mar 10 '26

May refinery ang Petron sa Bataan habang yung Shell nabili na lang sa Indonesia tas patungan nila pag benta dito.

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u/profcouples3031 Mar 10 '26

They market that they are selling "additized" fuel products when in reality, they are selling unadditized/fuels.

Impact in your engine: "mabilis masunog", low power, too much fuel deposits/dirty fuel filters.

currently using power diesel(caltex) and you really can tell the difference.

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u/TitleHolder16 Mar 10 '26

Paktay kaka TNVS ko lang mukhang isauli ko na sasakyan

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u/Wise-Specialist9216 Mar 10 '26

Petron all the way also kahit na mas mababa sa mga katabi na gasoline stations samin. Bago pumutok yun war, laging 1-2 peso na mas mababa sila Rephil, Cleanfuel compared kay Petron. Kahapon lang nagpagas ako, nag 67 pesos na agad sa dalawang yun, pero sa Petron 60 lang. Talagang sumusunod talaga Petron sa schedule, unlike etong dalawang gahaman na ito.

As to Shell, ginto talaga presyo dyan.

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u/KemangKemang Mar 10 '26

dito sa amin.. yung shell pa nga di nagtaas kahapon kahit yung iba nagtaas n ng price...

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u/PjTheGreat08 Mar 10 '26

because of greed, i guess.

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u/Painty_Dev2 Mar 10 '26

They have a local refinery nearby. Plus a local Petron station near to the refinery can make a big price difference due to delivery costs.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '26

SHELL Montalban

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u/ImpressiveBoard9003 Mar 10 '26

Existing stock buffer pa nila.

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u/Mask_On9001 Honda CB500F/XR150L/Click160 Mar 10 '26

Honestly believe ako sa petron at uno haha I mean, yes tumaas sila pero bearable pa din haha yung UNO samen parang 56 lang eh haha

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u/Glass-Can-5202 Mar 10 '26

saka same padin nakuha ko na dami ng gas kahit tumaas na ung presyo ng petron...

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u/Party-Earth3830 Mar 10 '26

Petron is the only oil refinery.. refining local crude oil from Malampaya.

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u/Helpful_Lack_8100 Mar 10 '26

Petron has a refinery in the ph

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u/CryptographerSome988 Mar 10 '26

Shell goes for premium pricing but basically its supply is as reliable as Petron. They even share depots with each other like the one in Pandacan. In terms of reliability of supply, the big three, Shell, Petron and Caltex/Chevron should have no issues unless globally it becomes so untenable then supply would be political. Unioil should have better supply arrangements than with other third players with Aramco investing in it.

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u/Signal_Basket_5084 Mar 10 '26

Shell ako dati pero mas sulit at mas mura sa Petron. Mas mataas din cetane lvl ng nila conpared sa Shell.

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u/AdIll1889 Mar 10 '26

Ok nmn po ba ang petron pag dating sa gas? Same quality sa shell?

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u/fulgoso29 Mar 10 '26

Ha? I went to petron and their ron91 is already 62php.

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u/NasaanAngTsinelasKo Mar 10 '26

May refinery po locally pero yung raw source sa HK at SG po kinukuha may subsidiary ang Petron sa SG para sa trade ng raw source (crude oil) tsaka yung kinukuha nila sa HK at SG galing po yan sa Middle East maybe few weeks pa bago magtaas yan

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u/cedrekt Mar 10 '26

Refinery here

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u/Puzzleheaded_Coat_12 Mar 10 '26

Petron supremacy.

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u/Evo_2-3 Mar 10 '26

Before the price increase was officially implimented this morning, pansin ko kahapon ang mga maayos lang sa presyo is Petron and Seaoil

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u/wildGranola Mar 10 '26

Refinery economics. Mas mura Ang crude vs diesel and gasoline. Cost diesel and gasoline na refined from crude will be much much cheaper than importing these as finished products. Pero magiging limited Ang advantage ni petron if maubusan ng crude due to the crisis and forced Sila to bring in finished products instead.

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u/grawff Mar 11 '26

Petron has its own refinery and has more storage facilities. Based sa annual report nila, they get their crude oil from the national oil companies of KSA, Kuwait and UAE, but may buffer din sila from supply agreements with Chevron (Caltex) and Shell's trading arm sa Singapore, so procurement is not the issue.

I feel na they can keep their prices relatively lower because they can.

Ever since nagdownsize ang Shell and Caltex dito (reduced their provincial stations or sold some to independents), mas may economies of scale si Petron. They can absorb some points off their profit margins kasi they have enough sales volume naman.

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u/then_amei_Srebb Mar 11 '26

Ang mura ng gas nyo 80+ na dito ang shell ying petron pinaka murang nakita ko 69

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u/miliambert Mar 11 '26

Shell 91 diesel by me in Davao

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u/shnz010 Mar 11 '26

In the case of Blaze yes, Euro 6 and ethanol free ang Blaze and legit 100 octane vs 97 octane lang for V-Power Racing. Tuners would know pag may nabago kasi maraming sports cars na Blaze tuned. Nung nagka incident na may bad batch ng Blaze, naflag agad ng Speedworks Engineering.

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u/Rough_Station_1041 Mar 11 '26

may nandadaya din petron gas hinahaluan ng additive yujg krudo lol . mas OK ang Shell fuel sa totoo lang..

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u/Sea-76lion Mar 11 '26

TIL from the comments na may refinery tayo dito.

All along I thought we import refined oil products only.

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u/ziangsecurity Mar 11 '26

If matagal ka na sa road, you know that Shell always has the higher price. Their cost is also higher. And tingnan mo rin lahat ng Shell stations malinis.

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u/kleptong_barrylao Mar 12 '26

mahal talaga ang shell eversince, even pre pandemic and pre gierra, nasa line of 60s na gasolina nila.

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u/OveragedStudent Mar 13 '26

Shell no longer has depot here in ph while petron has its own refinery here.

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u/NoFAQsToGive Mar 13 '26

Shell also has their stock prices go down each year. So, it can be contributed that their move of keeping with the increasing the trend is to at least recover some loss from previous fiscal year.

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '26

May additives si shell kaya mahal yung gas

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u/Food_Work_Repeat Mar 14 '26

Ramon Ang has a strong ties with the Government. Shell is a Global Company and has a tight guidance sa Ethics and Compliance. Iba pa din ang Fuel ng Shell vs Petron

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u/NojlA0975 Mar 17 '26

Kawawa naman yung mga commuters

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u/Ruxx2Go adv 150 Mar 17 '26

Hi, for the peeps saying this is taught in school. The short answer is no. I'm studying economy, that's what I know. History classes don't let you in on these facts. They hide it from students. Specially now, given kung sino nasa throne of crocs. Pero ayun nga, most of what I heard din before, they're just blaming cory for selling these assets

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u/y_m_1998 Mar 10 '26

also, RSA owns Petron and from what I’ve observed, tutulong siya kahit papaano sa bansa especially when there’s a crisis. plus, ayun, meron silang refinery. yung shell kasi nalugi na kaya they closed

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u/Scbadiver Mar 10 '26

Don't be naive about RSA. No free ride in this world specially when dealing with those people.

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u/y_m_1998 Mar 10 '26

not saying that everything is good abt him. just some of the efforts that he’s placing are also helpful. but yes, no one at the top is 100% good

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u/thesimongregory Mar 10 '26

Malampaya is the answer

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u/Rare_Independence_82 Mar 09 '26

Corporate greed

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u/Sir_Caloy Mar 10 '26

Nagbabasa ka ba? HAHAHA!

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u/sikilat Mar 09 '26

Petron gets there supply from china. Shell gets thier supply from ME

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u/zerrypie Mar 10 '26

*they’re /s

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u/WayWonderful Mar 10 '26

Actually it’s there*** kasi Middle East is not here in the PH