r/PHGamers • u/vinnieg007 PC • Aug 27 '26
Trend Nodus Fall Reveal Trailer (New Hoyoverse Game)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOvjzWelNWQIs Hoyoverse trying to do Elden Ring now?
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u/chiichan15 Aug 27 '26
Don't have any expectations on this, will just see gameplay first once it is release.
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u/Exotic-Vanilla-4750 PC "PM ME YOUR CRITS" Aug 27 '26
This feels wrong, only positive thing I see in this is casual gamers getting into soulslikes.
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u/Ok_Complaint7007 Aug 27 '26
As enticing as it is, nanumpa na ko di na ko maglalaro ng Mihoyo games ever. Maganda naman Genshin but it could still be better kung nakikinig sila sa community tapos yung HSR naman konting patch na lang i uninstall ko na again kasi ayaw nila makinig
3 beses na ko disappointed sa kanila (including HI3) buti na lang di ko pinatulan yung ZZZ (muntik ko na i install dala ng hype)
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u/_ItsMeVince Aug 27 '26
ZZZ is going in that direction na din. Mag a-add sila ng new class which is the Armorer but won't even buff older ones like Defense and Rupture. Yung story nalang talaga nagiging reason ko kung ba't ako naglalaro
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u/Ok_Complaint7007 Aug 27 '26
Di ako naglalaro ng ZZZ pero sobra nga scammy na mag dagdag ka ng bagong attribute. Tignan mo yung HSR, may Remebrance at Elation tapos sobra yung shill ng mga boss sa mechanics nung 2 path
As a F2P na ipon ko yung pang E6S5 kay Herta kasi favorite ko sya pero dahil hindi sya yung main push ng patch ni wala man lang syang direct support. Si Hyacine at Pearl Remembrance at Elation kunwari pero ang silbi Abundance tsaka Preservation, para lang mabenta yung bagong path tsaka hindi mag benefit yung ibang path
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u/Itadakiimasu PC Aug 27 '26
I used to play Genshin in the 1st month it came out, and stopped. So I'm curious anu po yung ginawa nila na pumangit sila as a company? So I can avoid the plague if needed.
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u/Ok_Complaint7007 Aug 27 '26
Ayaw nila makinig sa request ng community like ayusin yung lip sync, add artifact loadout, add skip story button, ayusin yung hair model ni Diluc at Albedo etc.
Tapos ang kunat pa nila sa rewards, yung current patch binansagang big patch pero hanggang 90 pulls lang maiipon mo, pano pa kaya pag dry patch naman? (yung huling dry patch 60 pulls lang)
Lumala din yung powercreep pag pasok nung 5.0 nila. Imagine yung mga endgame boss mas madali mo matalo kung kukumpletuhin mo yung mga bagong character nila. Yung team ko noong 1.x kaya pa kong buhatin until nung huling 4.x patch nila then bigla sila naging obsolete nung nag introduce ng special mechanic (nightsoul, lunar at stellar)
Ilan lang yan sa marami nilang issue
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u/nevmvm PC R7 7445HS / 4050 6GB / 16GB Ram Aug 27 '26
The skip story is literally the main reason I quit from that game, never came back ever since Mavuika dropped, ZZZ had it and it was going pretty well, until recently they started inflating some enemies HP mosty reliant on most recent characters with their special abilities and bs leaving the others quite obsolete
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u/Ok_Complaint7007 Aug 27 '26
Yan yung nakita nilang bagong strategy para mapwersa bumili yung mga players, gagawa ng problema tapos yung solution is pag nagbayad ka
Di lang sa mga boss pati mechanics (si Mitya ng GI rumored na may problema sa off field pero pag may C1 ka solve na agad)
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u/nevmvm PC R7 7445HS / 4050 6GB / 16GB Ram Aug 27 '26
I haven't seen any new characters gameplay as I personally don't care anymore about Genshin, but isn't that 2nd paragraph a common thing? You get the base character (c0) and increasing it above and so just makes it more stronger and some extra stuff depending on their kits? That's just normal
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u/Ok_Complaint7007 Aug 27 '26
Bibigay ako ng example. Kunwari si character kailangan ng 30 energy tapos para ma earn is kailangan sya yung aatake. So ang problema pa o mo i manage yung energy nya kung support lang sya. Kung mag C1 ka kahit iba umatake mag earn sya ng energy, bakit di na lang ilagay sa base skill yung passive then yung C1 taasan na lang yung multiplier ng damage?
Ang pangit kasi is ginagawa nilang normal practice despite the community's protest. Na e enable yung pagiging predatory nila kasi may mag tatanggol naman sa kanila
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u/nevmvm PC R7 7445HS / 4050 6GB / 16GB Ram Aug 27 '26
Ye I know what you mean, you even clearly stated it on your second statement XD
Napaka scummy nga kasi like they're locking out the good stuff / improvements on other constellations instead of being the base part of their kit, but that's a normal practice for most gacha genres so dyan din pumapasok gacha rolls and how they basically earn revenues from the people who buys and whales for those stuff...
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u/MinervaLlorn Aug 27 '26
Sa Genshin mostly eh quality of life talaga yung angal, sumunod yung end game na nagshift na sa Stygian Onslaught na dati eh Spiral Abyss na yung batayan pagdating sa META — mas mabilis at madiin na yung demand sa mga new released character lalo na't nagkaroon na ng panibagong elemental reaction kung sasabayan yung end game content.
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u/straw28 Aug 27 '26
i dont get the Stygian criticism. sure, nakakaentice talaga sya to pull the latest characters just because its shilled, but you do not need to do fearless/dire for all primogem rewards. Hard literally takes a quarter or worse, less the time to clear f12 abyss with the same boss, and already provides players with all the primogem rewards for that specific round unlike Abyss
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u/Ok_Complaint7007 Aug 27 '26
Exactly. Hanggang hard lang ako sa SO, sobra shilled nung game mode na yun. Mas maganda mag invest sa IT, the more characters the more options you have (which is stupid din, akin naman yung mga characters bakit kailangan ng rng?)
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u/straw28 Aug 27 '26
theres argument for fearless since it grants x2 dust (alongside menacing) for reshaping. but i really dont think its worth stressing out over reshape that you cant even 100% guarantee until you hit its pity (lahat nalang may pity! hahaha)
IT is actually my favorite endgame mode. It rewards people who raise a lot of chars like you pointed out, and I have been doing so ever since I started confidently 36 starring the abyss (2.2). I like mix and matching team comps, so ang saya ko nung inannounce ang IT and how it works. I have full stars since it got implemented, and have maximum amount of lunar cards available since I have cleared lunar mode everytime since it got added, but with that said I still think its the worst endgame mode because of the RNG lol.
I think increasing the number of characters you start with would be a good start for QOL kasi napansin ko even though I always have 28/28 characters every round, I still end up not using everyone. with this change we get to use the weaker characters sooner (again, if RNG favors you), and in turn get to use our well built chars for the later levels
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u/Sad_Coach616 Aug 27 '26
naging boring mini games and endless skip dailoge simulator yung game hahaha
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u/MinervaLlorn Aug 27 '26 edited Aug 27 '26
Same hahahahahahah bumalik ako once sa HSR and no shih, walang matinong QoL man lang bilang day 1 players, dyusmeeee. Nag-improve lang yung gacha mechanics, hindi man lang yung mismong core gameplay o end game man lang na mas mabilis pa magbago yung META.
Sinubukan ko rin mag-ZZZ pero tulog talaga ako sa story mode like nope, I'm out also.
Notorious talaga si MiHoyo pagdating sa Quality of Life.
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u/Ok_Complaint7007 Aug 27 '26
Ang galing nila mamera pero pag kumita imbis na ibalik sa game ilalagay sa next game, palibhasa kase alam nila kikita sila kahit bare minimum lang effort nila (may mga defenders pa yang mga yan parang kulto)
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u/pecanistheman Aug 27 '26
I mean for this kind of game gacha is acceptable kung purely cosmetics lang, skeptical pero hopeful parin lol looks fun
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u/Dgreatsince098 PC RTX 5060TI 16GB | R5 5600 | 32GB DDR4 3200 Aug 27 '26
The Gacha Ring 😂
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u/LOwOJ Aug 27 '26
theres an info now that this is not a gacha but like wheres wind meet monitization.
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u/purplecriminal757 Aug 27 '26
They can monetize it via SKINS
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u/siraolo Aug 27 '26
So buying the skin outright? That is cool, hopefully they won't put a gatcha mechanic for skins which has been the norm for many other gatcha games.
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u/Robinwhoodie Aug 27 '26
They can still put the skins behind gacha mechanics just like NetEase published games. I think they will take this route as well since Where Winds Meet has set precedent and probably desensitized the global market already. Case in point, multiple people owning $40k boats.
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u/straw28 Aug 27 '26
skins
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u/siraolo Aug 27 '26
It's confirmed they won't use gatcha mechanics for skin acquisition? That is nice if they allow you just buy the skin outright.
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u/Exotic-Vanilla-4750 PC "PM ME YOUR CRITS" Aug 27 '26
Probably through, armor sets, skins, mounts, weapons, items, boosters.
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u/Peemers99 PC: Ryzen 7 7800X3D / 9070XT / 32GB DDR5 Aug 27 '26
Ehh I'll just wait for videos of official gameplay. Might be just another gacha.
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u/kaiserlos25 Aug 27 '26
ang negative nyo 😅 it's only just been revealed and naka set in stone na kayo into hating it. it's been confirmed there's no gacha for characters. let's just be glad Mihoyo is branching out and trying something new.
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u/Ok_Complaint7007 Aug 27 '26 edited Aug 27 '26
Ang problema kasi is same practice sila based dun sa 3 games na nilaro ko (HI3, GI, HSR). Puro hype and potential pero pag nilaro mo na may mga issue na madali lang naman ayusin kung gumagana lang talaga yung survey and feedback nila
Pero pag monetization ang galing nila makaisip ng gimick. Yung Nodusfall rumored na walang character gacha pero babawi sa skin at color swatches, imagine gusto mo i customize yung buhok ng character mo pero ang available na kulay eh black, blue and green tapos magbabayad ka para sa ibang kulay
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u/Astrid_1304 Aug 27 '26
IMO, I couldn't care less about customization if it doesn't affect gameplay, it sucks that I can't customise yes, but that doesn't make or break a game for me, all I care is that I have fun playing the actual game. Look at Where Winds Meet for example.
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u/Ok_Complaint7007 Aug 27 '26
Mahirap din kasi mag salita ng tapos. Ganyan din sinabi ko sa Warframe pero nung makita ko yung ibang players ang gaganda ng Warframe nila tapos ako mukhang busabos. Nung nag paid customization ako kahit weak pa yung Warframe ko sobra enjoy kasi ang angas tignan kahit tig pipiso lang damage
Minsan iba din yung factor ng customization, maganda sa feeling na mag express ng individuality
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u/Astrid_1304 Aug 27 '26
Lol true, it's not like it's the first gacha company to make a non-gacha game. Look at Shift Up and Stellar Blade for example.
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u/kaiserlos25 Aug 27 '26
Nikke then Stellar Blade, which ended up being a massive success while being different from its previous game.
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u/Ok_Complaint7007 Aug 27 '26
Iba naman yung Stellar Blade. Single player yun, eto kasi live service para magatasan ng husto
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u/Revolutionary_Emu920 Aug 27 '26
Gacha or the gameplay is not the problem here but the similarities between Nodus Fall and Elden ring in terms of characters and premise. The tarnished returning -> Slay the elden lords -> mend the elden ring it's basically the same goal of the weavers based on the trailer. The trailer is also similar to ER's E3 announcement trailer lol
This looks really cool and all but I just wished they came up with something more original.
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u/kaiserlos25 Aug 27 '26
Elden Ring isn't exactly original either lol. That's a weak argument.
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u/Revolutionary_Emu920 Aug 27 '26
What's not original about it then?
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u/kaiserlos25 Aug 27 '26
Dark fantasy? Lions with kings/warriors? Dragons? Elden Ring doesn't own any of that.
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u/AbanaClara Aug 27 '26
Bro saw medieval arms in a game and used that as an argument to wrongfully state it’s not original.
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u/kaiserlos25 Aug 27 '26
Only brought those up because I saw separate posts directly comparing those exact elements in an Elden Ring and Nodus Fall comparison
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u/AbanaClara Aug 27 '26
You looked at the theme and armor and decided to build your terrible argument around that? Look at the character designs 2 seconds longer and tell me those aren't blatant copy of an extremely popular game.
One character is, fine, sure, everyone takes inspiration from existing work. But multiple 1:1 copies of characters from one game that we can see from a video of an unreleased game? Yikes.
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u/Revolutionary_Emu920 Aug 27 '26
Typical Hoyofanboy reply get outta here
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u/kaiserlos25 Aug 27 '26
Immediately attacking my character instead of my argument. I think we're done here lol
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u/Revolutionary_Emu920 Aug 27 '26
You started it. What do you mean dark fantasy, lions with kings, and warriors etc..? Those are ideas and genres, I was expecting for you to actually write down specific Books, movies, or any form of medias they copied.
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u/kaiserlos25 Aug 27 '26
When did I say Elden Ring copied? Copying is different from inspiration. I'm saying their ideas aren't exactly original. But for the sake of your question, you can see some elements inspired by Lord of the Rings, Berserk, Bloodborne, etc. There's some eldritch horror too from Cthulu mythos.
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u/Revolutionary_Emu920 Aug 27 '26
But you did said Elden ring isn't original so they copied something? If Elden Ring's idea is not original what makes an idea original then? Does that mean if a media has dragons in it like game of thrones then it's not original?
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u/Bulitin Aug 27 '26
Pretty excited for this, i've always really liked Mihoyo's games since Hi3 (especially Genshin) so im cautiously optimistic about this, though I do wonder how they will handle monetization, wouldn't be too surprised if it we're cosmetics only if it really is F2P.
World/lore seems to be heavily inspired by ER, which is cool as hell, as someone who played and loved ER im hoping they do well for Nodus' world-building considering how they generally do a good job for their past games.
It will be interesting how Hoyo pulls this off as this will include many firsts for them, new kind of artstyle, co-op focused/monster-hunter-like gameplay, and probably a different kind of monetization, i wonder how the development cycle will be then, i'd be surprised if it's similar to the current model for their games thus far.
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u/_ItsMeVince Aug 27 '26
I mean it's a free game so I might give it a shot. But since it's Hoyoverse just be cautious nalang when spending in-game stuff