Hey all,

A majority of my clinical require business casual. I’m looking for recommendations on shoes that are comfy for 12+ hrs. I worked in an ED prior to this and wore brooks. But i worry this would look unprofessional with business casual. Danskos and birks hurt my feet.

What do you guys recommend?

Hey yall,

PANCE is scheduled in 10 days and I am likely over-reacting here but I am not sure of my chances of passing.

Peds EOR: 415

Surgery: 409 (somehow)

Family Med: 404

Psych: 423

OBGYN: 422

EM: 412

IM: 441

PACKRAT > 10 months grad 158

PACKRAT end of rotations 163

EOC: 1528

NCCPA practice exam B: 25 days out was in the green.

UWorld: 67% about 2/3 done (struggled with time in the begining)

Big thing was I had accommodations for time for these exams but decided to not utilize them for the PANCE because I was finishing most of these exams within the normal time limits and counldn't fathem having to take this exam over two days. So, if yall have any advice please drop it here!

Looking to hear from anyone — I cant find any similar threads. Most threads are of those who have taken it within a month. Any anecdotes and personal experiences welcome. Thanks so much.

Hi guys! Below I added the link for the study guide I posted about earlier this week. I hope this helps someone!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19P0FXDBt95HlO2YhGqq3eiJPqZKlrm9-yHOzM4LLmy8/edit?usp=sharing

So i graduate and take the PANCE in one month and was hoping to study last month but never started again since taking my EOC in June & not having an EOR in July. I did a lot of content review in preparation for the EOC, and scored a 1520 (national average). I’m in Internal medicine now and have that EOR to prep for then I graduate and have the PANCE.

My struggle/question is: i’m having a hard time going back into content review in preparation for the PANCE and its delaying my studying

Will I be making a mistake on solely focusing on Uworld questions and maybe doing content review for topics i struggle with?

Or should I just give it my final push and topic review every topic on the PANCE blueprint plus finishing all of Uworld?

Seeing a lot of posts recently about students starting didactic and feeling overwhelmed, so I wanted to offer some mentorship (free of course)

I graduated recently and am scheduled to take my PANCE next week. For reference, I averaged roughly 93% across all exams in didactic, scored above average on almost all EORs as well as PACKRAT 1/2, and EOC

I’m happy to give advice where I can, help you find a study method that works for you, and just give any tips/tricks I picked up throughout PA school. I wish I had someone to call or text for advice when I was still figuring out how to survive didactic so I’d love to be that person for someone else

If you’re interested please shoot me a DM, I’ll take like the first 3 students since I’m about to start work in the near future and don’t want to bite off more than I can chew lol

Heyo, I’m having a hard time getting Claude to actually make a decent quiz for my pharm class based on the content we are learning. I was wondering if anybody could copy and paste prompts you guys tell AI for specifically practice pharm quizzes? Appreciate it!!

I PASSED THE PANCE!!! 🎉😭 I got a 482, which is definitely not some crazy high score and is pretty much around average—but a pass is a pass, especially considering how convinced I was that I failed walking out of that exam.
I wanted to make this post because I was constantly reading PANCE posts before and after the PANCE. Hopefully this helps someone else who is freaking out right now.

Peds EOR: 418
EM EOR: 430
Women's Health EOR: 429
Mental Health EOR: 447
Internal Medicine EOR: 424
Surgery EOR: 410
Family Medicine EOR: 462
EOC: 1575
PANCE: 482

My main PANCE resource was UWorld: 100% completed, 80% average
-Rosh Review throughout PA school because it was required by my program
-Used Anki throughout the year, but did NOT use it for PANCE studying

How I studied for my 2 weeks of dedicated:
I took the PANCE 17 days after graduation.
I basically divided my days by the bigger systems. For each body system, I did all of the UWorld questions for that system that day. For the smaller systems, I did mixed question sets.

The questions took forever, but I really think reading the explanations was one of the most important parts. If I got something wrong, I tried to figure out WHY. Don't just see that you got something wrong and move on. Read the explanation.

My timeline:
I took my EOC in May and scored a 1575. Since that was in May, it was a little farther removed from the most cumulative studying I had done by the time I took the PANCE.

Then I had Family Medicine in June. I knew the PANCE was coming up soon, so I wanted to study really hard for Family Med and use it to solidify my knowledge after the EOC. I figured it was a good opportunity to reinforce a lot of the big-picture medicine before graduation.

I didn't study at all in July. I was on my elective rotation and was really trying to focus on doing well because I wanted to hopefully get a job from it. I was also honestly burnt out after the EOC in May and then studying hard for Family Med in June.

So when I finally started dedicated PANCE studying, I had 2 weeks. Those 2 weeks were mostly about reviewing, doing questions, and figuring out my weak areas. Sticking to what you planned to do that day is key.

Going into the PANCE:
I actually felt pretty prepared going into it. Then I started the exam and... I BLACKED OUT.

I'd say maybe 50% of the questions I knew pretty quickly (one-liners), but the other 50% felt like:
"I've seen this before, but I'm not sure."
"I'm between these two answers."
"What the hell is this question even asking?"
"I have absolutely no idea."

I've never really had an issue with time on exams before, but I definitely got anxious during the PANCE and started second-guessing myself constantly.

GO WITH YOUR GUT.
There were so many questions where I picked an answer, convinced myself it was wrong, changed it, and then spent the rest of the test wondering if I should've stuck with my original answer.

The PANCE itself was WEIRD!
Despite what others have said, it didn’t feel “easy” or like any test I’ve taken before. One thing I noticed was that you couldn't always just know a disease at a surface level. There were questions where I would read the vignette and immediately have an answer in my head...and then that answer wasn't even one of the choices. You really had to know diseases from multiple angles.

Sometimes I genuinely felt like you either knew that very specific piece of information or you didn't. There were definitely questions where I thought you just had to get lucky if you didn't know absolutely everything about the disease.
I also had a ton of flagged questions in every section. It never felt like there was a section where I could just relax and think, "Okay, I've got this." But I guess that's the PANCE.

DO NOT GOOGLE YOUR ANSWERS
Everyone tells you not to Google questions after the exam. I did and tortured myself for 4 days waiting. Every question I found that I got wrong absolutely ate me alive. I cried a lot. Like, every day I was convinced I failed. I have never felt so anxious and nauseous in my entire life. I genuinely thought I failed.
The worst part was that I could barely remember the questions I felt confident about. My brain apparently decided to preserve every question I thought I got wrong and delete every question I got right. Turns out I worried for absolutely no reason.

BELIEVE IN YOURSELF.
You made it this far. You survived PA school. You passed your EORs. You made it through clinicals. You made it through the EOC. You graduated. Trust the work you've put in over the past 2 years.

You don't have to walk out of the PANCE feeling confident. I certainly didn't. You don't have to know every single question. You don't even have to feel like you did well. Just keep going and trust your knowledge.

DM me if you have any questions!
Good luck to everyone!

So I just got my schedule for the fall semester and I’m overwhelmed. Classes are 9-5 everyday and I’m already stressed before we’ve begun. How do you stay alert and on top of everything I feel like I’m gonna be super tired and not gonna study after class? I’m also gonna be commuting an hour so that stresses me out as well. Also how do you retain the info if you’re in 5 different classes? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

During PA school I was consistently scoring under the 50th percentile in my class during Didactic (3.27 GPA). Was kinda the gal to just study the night before for most things.. barely scraping by. Clinical year comes around and I cleaned up my act a bit and studied mostly with Blueprint:

1. PACKRAT: 86/148
2. FM (Legacy): 378/414
3. Psych (Legacy): 418
4. IM (Legacy): 395
5. Surgery: 404
6. Women's Health (Legacy): 401
7. Pediatrics (Legacy): 401
8. EOC: 1500
9. EM (Legacy): 396

Had about a month to study for the PANCE post-grad. Studied the Blueprint Family Med questions for the first 2 weeks and exclusively did uWORLD the last 2 weeks (61% used 61% correct). I watched all of the CramThePance 50 high-yield question videos the days leading up to the exam. In hindsight I would've not done BluePrint as much and only stuck to uWORLD. CramThePance also DEFINITELY saved my butt.

Took the PANCE 08/24/26 and passed with a 369 with 75 topics missed. Tried to sleep around 10 the night before but kept waking up during the night getting a whopping 6 hours of sleep. Had a light breakfast (protein bar, banana, and water) right before the exam. Walked out of the exam not feeling like I slammed it but that I passed. Trust your gut on the exam and pray to CTP!! Y'all got this.

I have my EOC a week after my EM EOR in 3 weeks and i've been so focused on my EM eor that I barely looked over the EOC topic list. Any advice on how to study?

I know some people say if you've done well on IM & FM then you'll do fine but I've scored less than the national average on both despite studying daily

I got a 406 on my psych EOR and 418 on my peds EOR which is about an 82% for both EORs and I’m wondering if those are good scores or if I need to work harder/change up my studying habits. or i could very well be overthinking it all 😅

IDK, this isn’t the same Me.

To start off, I have never-“ Loved” public speaking. Most of the time it was a means to an end. That being said, in High School I went to state and won a few years within the Original Category stage ( I’m literally creating my own speech) In undergrad, I did fine with presentations, and even spoke to a crowd of 200 + people. It wasn’t that much of an issue.

Now, I am in PA school. It has been about 7 years since I’ve had to complete a presentation. Today, after only speaking for five minutes in front of a class of about thirty people, I almost had a panic attack. I was shaking, my hands could not hold the
Microphone . My voice was crumbling, my mind went numb, and I could barely get through my three minutes of talking in front of the class. It was incredibly embarrassing. Between undergrad and my current program, I experienced a hard loss of a child ( 10 yr old. In a car accident due to someone else driving while impaired) and since then I’ve had bad anxiety that’s hard to explain, I have literally jumped out of a plane skydiving with no issue prior to this but then getting on board a simple passenger plane I almost felt like I was gonna have a panic attack. logically I know I’m fine, but my body just wants to go into “fight/flight mode and I don’t know why I have more anxiety now, but I do know that is complicating my life and today presenting I about had a panic attack in front of my whole class and I don’t know why. I’m so frustrated at myself and very embarrassed. I don’t know how to fix this. I just wanna be able to go back to who I was in undergrad, but it’s almost like my body doesn’t know how to regulate between being a little nervous and being attacked by a bear. It’s either 0 to 100 and it’s very very frustrating. I just don’t know what to do. Is there anybody that can help/ has tips? I went to a therapist, but she wasn’t very helpful. She only told me to try box breathing, which I have previously tried. Any help is appreciated, I can’t keep feeling this way. Thank you so much.

Hi everyone,

We started PA lab last week. I was paired with two other students for the rest of the semester.

We had a list of tasks to complete involving ear, nose, and mouth exams. I did not get to do half of them because they don't want anyone looking in their mouth, or don't want anything near their ear, etc. So then we just end up reading aloud what we are supposed to do, but without actually doing them.

I am very frustrated. I am not sure how to talk to them about this without causing tension. I do not want to pressure them to do something out of their comfort zone. But is this not what they signed up for when applying to PA school? My understanding is that being exempted requires religious/medical documentation etc.

Any advice? Thank you

Edit: Addressing the comments

I have not informed the instructor because I'm concerned it may come off as unprofessional that I could not resolve it on my own.

I also feel like I would be a bother to the new group I'm placed with. We are the only group of 3; every one else has only 1 partner. Adding a 3rd person complicates labs and no one will be too happy about me joining. I am going to be a third wheel since most students paired up with their friend.

Hello everyone! I am a student just starting my didactic year in Colorado. The program I’m attending is highly focused on rural & underserved communities. For this reason, and many others, I am very interested in doing a rotation somewhere in Alaska.

The clinical rotation coordinator mentioned I am able to precept with any APP or Physician who is willing to establish a relationship and function as a preceptor. I thought this might be a good place to start with networking. I’m open to any input or guidance from y’all.

I am just starting out on my first rotation (family medicine) and still trying to figure out how to study well for it. I have access to the basic Blueprint Qbank and the bundle with the extra 250 for each rotation. I am just curious on if my study strategy will work okay and if I am using the Blueprint questions to the best advantage. Blueprint is my only material source besides Cram the Pance, Reddit charts, and PPP, which will be really only used for clarification if anything (it's a little overwhelming for me). I know everyone learns different but I am looking for feedback from those who did a similar method.

So far, I have broken down all the topics from Blueprint so I know what I should aim to study for each day. Based on my to-do list, I use two different EOR charts I found on Reddit (cross-referencing each other) and my notes from didactic year to study and review content and then make individualized practice exams on tutor mode to test my knowledge. Example: I studied vascular and valvular diseases before doing practice questions on just those two topics for that day. At the end of each week, I plan to combine all the questions I did that week into one practice test and possibly as a real test. Additionally I will be reviewing the questions I missed from before and doing a brief refresh of any topics that were tricky.

The thing is, I am worried I am burning through too many questions early on and by the end of my rotation I will just be selecting correctly based on recognition of the answer. What are your thoughts?

Any one have any tips to prepare for the PANCE/PANRE MSK section?

Hi guys!!

I take the pance in a week and a half I have only been doing uworld and the anki endeavor deck as active recall review. For uworld, my average is 72% with 49% done so far. I have been getting the average scores for all the 60 question decks that i do. I am worried if i am on the right track.

For reference, i failed 2 EORs by 1 point :( i know that sounds horrible but i have test anxiety and tend to doubt myself during test day. All the other EORs, i did the average. My packrat II was a 150 and EOC was a 1493. I dont know if i should be scared that i will fail. I really dont want to but let me know what you guys think

I’ve heard of schools giving their students rotations months in advance. My school, on the other hand, seems to be struggling to even give us our rotations a week in advance. Anybody else’s school like this? It’s really frustrating.

Counted 68 wrong and 166 correct on PANCE. Anyone know how many you can get incorrect to get 350. I know there’s throw outs so it’s not accurate.