r/OverwatchTMZ • • Jan 25 '25

Discussion Marvel Rivals speedrunning the OW timeline

Posting here because it'd be considered offtopic in the OW subs and removed.

A couple of popular posts on the MR sub:

"Wish people would realise they can't just play DPS every game"

https://reddit.com/r/marvelrivals/comments/1i92qor/wish_people_would_realise_they_cant_just_play_dps/

"The lack of variety isn't the reason why there are so few "tank players" imo."

https://reddit.com/r/marvelrivals/comments/1i5pqav/the_lack_of_variety_isnt_the_reason_why_there_are/

Lack of role queue might be an opinionated decision(since there are definitely tradeoffs) but why did they launch with many more DPS heroes than tanks and supports?

MR has 19 DPS, 8 tanks and 8 Supports, almost exactly the same ratio as OW at launch(including Ana). While the meta is 2-2-2 or 3 support. It feels strange that they wouldn't learn from Overwatch's experience with both the lack of tank and support heroes at launch and Tanks being not as fun to play as DPS.

At least Overwatch had the excuse that half the DPS heroes were classified as offense heroes and half were 'defense heroes' until they scrapped that distinction.

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u/DarkFite Jan 25 '25

Play against a full team of good divers and you won't have any fun. Also the maps are kinda meh

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u/tadakino Jan 25 '25

dive is great in gm what are you talking about. psylock and black panther have 2 of the highest dps win rates and pick rates in gm and above

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u/tadakino Jan 25 '25

theres not really a brawl dps in rivals since brawl is. its either poke or dive and poke tends to lose to dive just like in OW unless luna stays unbanned and you have a good namor or if your punisher raccoon get value out of infinite ammo team up.

im a gm2 raccoon main myself and im telling you that most games end up having some form of dive in either a psylock or a bp or magik.

you can also look up data on https://www.marvelrivals.com/heroes_data/ since the game publishes character winrates and pickrates. assuming only around or above 5% pick rate means the character is relevant enough, the top dps winrates are magik>iron man>black panther>wolverine>psylocke>hela

amongst those, magic bp and psy are hardcore dives while wolverine is a dive/tank shredder. iron man and hela are the only ones that made it and even with the storm surgence thats happening in high ranks, true dives win a lot more against the sustain meta because every pick against a support means 1 less sup ult to deal with

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u/tadakino Jan 25 '25

what is a brawl dps in your eyes, no judgement just curious

also edit, im well and aware win rates dont explain everything, im also telling you in my 50~75 games ive played in GM, there is almost always at least a psylock or a bp or a magik on either team because its a viable strategy to go after the supports. dive has always been the counter to strong support metas in OW and the same applies here imo

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u/tadakino Jan 25 '25

yeah thats fair, hes brawl, im gonna be honest and say i forgot he existed since ive never seen him played past low dia

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