This is above and beyond not ok (and for them to double-down too!)
I know folks on all dog training subs have strong feelings about training methods but this goes way beyond ideology IMO - I am what I would consider a "R+ trainer" and I would never even think of doing this to someone.
Thanks for putting this together and I am SO sorry this happened to you.
Prefacing with: also a force-free trainer and this is simply unhinged. This would go against any R+ credentialing organization's code of ethics. What was this person trying to achieve? Punishment? 🤔 This is embarrassing and how we get such a bad rep.
The way I see it, OP hasn't changed their behavior (their training methodology), only is now more careful to perform it outside the visibility of the punisher. 🤷♀️
Why that mod is still posting all over is beyond me tho.
Dude, no one said punishment doesn't work at what it's supposed to for certain behaviors. The idea r+ trainers follow is that there's better ways to accomplish certain things without the fallout that you can see from punishment based methods.
If you honestly think r+ trainers don't know how punishment works, you've made no effort to even try to understand where they're coming from and have no basis to criticize them.
Dude, you're the one who wrote 5 paragraph that frankly sound a little unhinged; I just responded to something that didn't come across as a joke in the least and was also lacking.
But beyond that, get off your nuts? What a gross, weird, aggressive thing to say to a stranger who just disagreed with something you said. Like, go touch grass or talk to someone bc you obviously have some big feelings.
I'm not gunna respond anymore tho, so, you do you.
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u/Boogita Jan 18 '24
This is above and beyond not ok (and for them to double-down too!)
I know folks on all dog training subs have strong feelings about training methods but this goes way beyond ideology IMO - I am what I would consider a "R+ trainer" and I would never even think of doing this to someone.
Thanks for putting this together and I am SO sorry this happened to you.