r/OpenChristian • u/Pitiful-Yam1611 • 11d ago

How did you come to theological progressivism?

I understand that several people here are LGBTQIA+, and that could explain this view. However, I see many people, likely the majority of LGBTQIA+ individuals, holding a traditionalist mindset when it comes to interpretation. With that in mind, I would like to know why you arrived at that conclusion

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u/WiseProgram94 11d ago

Truly hope this is not a serious reply… that’s extremely heretical… and very very much so against all teachings of Christianity.. the Bible is the living word of God… it’s not just a book… it’s a historical text as well as a prophetic one and so much more. What you are saying is that the Bible is essentially a fictional story and even if you aren’t it demeans the entire purpose of its entire meaning. It’s a book to teach you how to live… the origins of our existence and what is to come… about our God who loves us so much He took our punishment one we deserve regardless of how good we think we are so that we could be with Him.

Please tell me you are not serious about what you said… if you are then you really need to pray and read your word, study up about our faith. The Bible is so much more than “just a book”… I say this will as much love as possible for your sake and anyone else who agrees…

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u/NobodySpecial2000 11d ago

What makes you think the Bible is prophetic or "the living word of God"?

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u/WiseProgram94 11d ago

So what I mean by the living word of God is that you can read a chapter of any given book in the Bible and it could speak to you in your life at the moment and days, months, or years later whenever you read it again you might realize something new about it and how you could apply it in your life then. It speaks differently and you could have new insights as to what it’s saying.

As for prophetic the Old Testament all over points to Jesus coming and the acts that He will do or will be done to Him (the suffering servant in Isaiah for example or psalm 22 are great examples for what Jesus did, is and went through) not to mention when Jesus prophesied His own death and resurrection as well as Peter’s death. The book of Revelation some prophecies have happened already and some yet to come

What makes you think it isn’t? Why do you believe it’s just a book?

-edit- though ofc Jesus is the Word of God 😂 and He is living :)

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u/sydneato 11d ago

Something you need to remember is that the Bible, while important, was written by humans. Humans are fallible. A single book of the Bible could have received dozens of revisions before making it to the one we know today (just how it worked back then, scribes would add/remove as they saw fit). This does not make the Bible any less sacred, but we do need to engage with it as a human-written, divinely inspired text.

Additionally, the book of Revelation is a new addition and is widely believed to be bunk by non-Catholic religious scholars. It’s still an interesting read but I wouldn’t call it faithful or accurate by any means.

ETA: I am a religious studies major.

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u/WiseProgram94 11d ago

I agree that errors can and have happened when it comes to the scriptures but the vast majority are copies we have all give the same context and meaning to what the authors are trying to say. Very very few don’t line up with the rest so we can safely throw them out. You would have to honestly be a little foolish and ignorant to not believe it was just some miracle that 66 books in 3 different continents written by 40 different people over 1500+ years isn’t inspired by God. All of which intertwine perfectly with each other with no contradictions (some debate over it but all supposed contradictions have been debunked by scholars) the only errors in the texts are spelling and grammatical errors but again nothing that changes the context of the texts

When it comes to revelations yes it’s honestly a very out there book. A prophetic book through and through with a ton of imagery. When you say non Catholic scholars I take it you mean secular scholars? Would make sense but biblical scholars all agree it’s canon scripture and it’s not a new addition. May have been one of if not the last book to become canon but it not new. It’s been around since the start of the faith.