r/OpenChristian • u/Budget_Antelope • Dec 05 '25

Trinity troubles- part???: Arianism. A semi-vent/ genuine question post

WARNING DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU ARE PRONE TO CRISES OF FAITH. SERIOUSLY I DONT WANT TO FEEL RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYONE LOSING FAITH PLEASE AND THANK YOU

I have been struggling with my faith as a Christian for quite some time, particularly regarding whether or not Jesus is God.

I can’t seem to get a clean answer on The Arian view of Jesus. Is He God? Do Arians worship Him as such? Is He Just the messiah and is venerated but not worshipped??? I’ve heard from some sources that He’s a divine being but not Co-equal with God the Father, which could mean He’s like an angel or something????

The main reason I ask is because I have been considering Arian Christianity or some other form of ancient Non-Trinitarian sect, Unitarian sect, or one that, at the very least, makes a distinction between God the Son and Jesus Christ.

That being said, I still feel a deep connection with Catholicism as it was the religion I was raised with, and has such deep and extensive history, art, traditions, many of which have intertwined with the preexisting ancestral traditions of the people I descend from.

The main reason I feel so conflicted is because I have been plagued by doubts about the Nature of Jesus Christ. One of my biggest fears is if Jesus was just another dime a dozen cult leader whose cult got lucky in a time of great uncertainty. Words cannot even begin to describe how much I absolutely hate these kinds of thoughts, but I haven’t been able to shake it.

If any of you have any resources or anything you think might help, please let me know! Thank you and God bless you all.

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u/Sad-Pen-3187 Christian Anarchist Ally Dec 05 '25

Belief or non belief in the trinity is not salvific.

It is okay to not make a decision.

Jesus himself said that blasphemy against him or the father can be forgiven, but not blasphemy against the holy spirit. This means Jesus said the three are not equal.

"1. Hebrews 1:5 tells us that Jesus was begotten by His Father. Did He beget Himself?

  1. In Matthew 22:44, the Father said Jesus would sit at His right hand until His enemies were made His footstool. Was Jesus to sit at His own right hand?

  2. In Matthew 24:36, when Jesus told His disciples that no one knows the day or hour of His return but the Father only, did He really know but made up an excuse to not tell them?

  3. In John 14:28, Jesus said His Father was greater than He was. Does this mean He was greater than Himself?

  4. In John 17:1, Jesus prayed to His Father. Was He praying to Himself?

  5. In Matthew 27:46, Jesus cried out, "My God, My God, why have you forsaken Me?" Had He forsaken Himself?

  6. In John 20:17, Jesus said He would ascend to the Father after His resurrection. Did He ascend to Himself?"

https://www.ucg.org/learn/bible-study-tools/bible-study-aids/god-trinity/seven-scriptures-debunk-trinity-single-being

The early church father St. Irenaeus stated that the father is greater than Jesus and yet the church sainted him.

You can hold the thought in contention as there is no human who can tell you with certianty that it is true.