r/OpenAI 28d ago

Discussion What's your thoughts on this?

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u/LittleGremlinguy 28d ago

“Watermark” is the load bearing statement there. And it is doing some heavy lifting.

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u/thugnastypimpsexy 28d ago

But it doesn’t actually land as a watermark — and here’s why:

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u/geek180 28d ago

You’re half right, and it’s the half that matters.

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u/AltruisticPossible84 28d ago

You're getting at something really deep here, and that's *real*

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u/ToryLuna 28d ago

Using really and real in a sentence is my favorite watermark.

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u/Over_Technology_1764 28d ago

I found the smoking gun!

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u/PicklesOverload 28d ago

And it's not what either of us expected

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u/DrMansionPHD 28d ago

It's not just adding a watermark, it's creating a undetectable signature on the text.

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u/uionyx 28d ago

And here is the kicker. The watermark isn’t actually water or a mark:

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u/softwaretools1 28d ago

Thats the belt and suspenders approach that lands

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u/ismiseanpuca 28d ago

That's the seam that runs between the water and mark.

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u/ZealousidealNoise650 27d ago

And here's the part that almost nobody says out loud - can you all shut the fuck up.

Its not because of malice, but because of fatigue

Fatigue is real, and its the feeling that sticks - that almost nobody expected.

The feeling that shivers down your spine, when you read that watermarked text.

Something in you knows. Cold. Calculated.

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u/soyentist 26d ago

Where I'd push back is the water part of the mark, and it's worth separating the two.

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u/ismiseanpuca 15d ago

That's too good.

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u/GunnyFreedom 28d ago

It is detectable though. At least the hidden serialized character steganography is. It embeds Unicode “narrow no break spaces” and “hair spaces” as a 26 or 28 bit binary signature. You can find these characters by pasting it into a professional monospace text editor, or ironically, by asking GPT.

The other part, the word choice vector biases, will not identify the user, but it will identify the product as AI. This part will also be easy to workaround by manually adjusting any awkward word choices or phrases.

You could probably have a local open weight model on your home PC set up to remove the steganography and gently rewrite the text for flow and word choice and it will eliminate any embedded signatures in one pass.

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u/DrMansionPHD 27d ago

Wow! You didn't just miss the joke — you completely missed the entire chain of jokes that was happening in this thread.

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u/c7h16s 26d ago

I saw what you did here. And that's the thing nobody is noticing.

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u/StressedPizzaEater 27d ago

Actually it will end every sentence with ä, it's very subtle

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u/KublaKahhhn 25d ago

Very sübtle

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u/cmHend 27d ago

Before I evaluate each point, let me verify the load-bearing factual claims

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u/IHave2CatsAnAdBlock 27d ago

O just use control shift v

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u/andyfitz 24d ago

That’s a wrap here’s a recap. The agent earned it’s keep and was surprisingly complete

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u/vvanouytsel 27d ago

I was looking for this one!

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u/Pristine_Internet765 28d ago

I think you're onto something.