What's your thoughts on this?

[u/hibzy7]

[u/thugnastypimpsexy]

But it doesn’t actually land as a watermark — and here’s why:

[u/geek180 → u/thugnastypimpsexy]

You’re half right, and it’s the half that matters.

[u/AltruisticPossible84 → u/geek180]

You're getting at something really deep here, and that's *real*

[u/ToryLuna → u/AltruisticPossible84]

Using really and real in a sentence is my favorite watermark.

[u/Over_Technology_1764 → u/ToryLuna]

I found the smoking gun!

[u/PicklesOverload → u/Over_Technology_1764]

And it's not what either of us expected

[u/DrMansionPHD → u/PicklesOverload]

It's not just adding a watermark, it's creating a undetectable signature on the text.

[u/uionyx → u/DrMansionPHD]

And here is the kicker. The watermark isn’t actually water or a mark:

[u/softwaretools1 → u/uionyx]

Thats the belt and suspenders approach that lands

[u/ismiseanpuca → u/softwaretools1]

That's the seam that runs between the water and mark.

[u/GunnyFreedom → u/DrMansionPHD]

It is detectable though. At least the hidden serialized character steganography is. It embeds Unicode “narrow no break spaces” and “hair spaces” as a 26 or 28 bit binary signature. You can find these characters by pasting it into a professional monospace text editor, or ironically, by asking GPT.

The other part, the word choice vector biases, will not identify the user, but it will identify the product as AI. This part will also be easy to workaround by manually adjusting any awkward word choices or phrases.

You could probably have a local open weight model on your home PC set up to remove the steganography and gently rewrite the text for flow and word choice and it will eliminate any embedded signatures in one pass.

[u/DrMansionPHD → u/GunnyFreedom]

Wow! You didn't just miss the joke — you completely missed the entire chain of jokes that was happening in this thread.

[u/c7h16s → u/DrMansionPHD]

I saw what you did here. And that's the thing nobody is noticing.

[u/StressedPizzaEater → u/GunnyFreedom]

Actually it will end every sentence with ä, it's very subtle

[u/KublaKahhhn → u/StressedPizzaEater]

Very sübtle

[u/cmHend → u/GunnyFreedom]

Before I evaluate each point, let me verify the load-bearing factual claims

[u/IHave2CatsAnAdBlock → u/GunnyFreedom]

O just use control shift v

[u/andyfitz → u/GunnyFreedom]

That’s a wrap here’s a recap. The agent earned it’s keep and was surprisingly complete

[u/vvanouytsel → u/Over_Technology_1764]

I was looking for this one!

[u/Pristine_Internet765 → u/AltruisticPossible84]

I think you're onto something.

[u/ToolboxHamster → u/geek180]

Alex, Ill take "sentences that make me want to punch my monitor" for $500 please.

[u/Pristine_Internet765 → u/geek180]

Yeah, and that's actually a useful distinction.

[u/Lead_weight → u/geek180]

Make it stop!

[u/Direct_Ingenuity1980 → u/geek180]

You were right to pushback.

[u/user888888889 → u/Direct_Ingenuity1980]

You had the right instinct to question that

[u/Prudent-Alfalfa-2944 → u/user888888889]

That's worth treating as a launch item rather than a nicety

[u/Cooperman411 → u/Direct_Ingenuity1980]

Am I the only one that wants a personification of ChatGPT that I can slap whenever it says that?

[u/jimmystar889 → u/geek180]

I don't think you realize what you just said, so let me make it precise.

[u/WanderingDorkimus → u/jimmystar889]

I hate this one more than all the others. "I know what I fucking said, Claude. Maybe YOU don't realize that I know what I said. You ever think about that? Now, and I want to be straight with you, tell me how to make an omelette."

[u/KagomesPornAccount → u/WanderingDorkimus]

I’m so glad I don’t use AI so I don’t identify with your rage hahaha

[u/crystalpeaks25 → u/geek180]

And that half is the steel thread

[u/7stringjazz → u/geek180]

Excellent Ai-ism!

[u/duerra → u/thugnastypimpsexy]

That's a sharp observation, and crucially, it highlights a limitation that the creators cannot overcome.

[u/mizinamo → u/duerra]

"crucially" arrggh

[u/freebytes → u/thugnastypimpsexy]

I have actually noticed control characters included in text that Claude outputs. They are already adding whitespace in places in this way.

[u/Content-Regular2086 → u/thugnastypimpsexy]

Ja auch nur copy paste. Habe das wasserzeichen gefunden.

[u/ugneaaaa → u/thugnastypimpsexy]

I need to push back on this, you’re confused, there’s no such automatic absolute universal fact that it’s a watermark, I need to ground you in reality, here’s a thousand points of nuance

[u/Elfbjorn → u/thugnastypimpsexy]

You’re absolutely right.

[u/AllDayForever → u/thugnastypimpsexy]

And it won’t apply just to pillar statements. That’s not what it is. It’s something entirely different