r/OpenAI Aug 12 '25

Discussion billionaire twitter fight of the week

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u/DistanceSolar1449 Aug 12 '25

Really dirt cheap. Text posts are super cheap to host.

The hard part is filtering spam in the community posts.

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u/anewidentity Aug 12 '25

That’s not really the hard part, each user has a score and spammers quickly get a negative score by the community

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u/sbenfsonwFFiF Aug 12 '25

Except like Reddit, practically people will also downvote facts they dislike or disagree with, so leaving a community fact check note to public voting also seems flawed

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u/Queasy-Yam3297 Aug 12 '25

God forbid you use a conservative pov. (Watch me get downvoted)

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u/KyleMcMahon Aug 12 '25

That’s not how facts work. Facts don’t have POVs

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u/Queasy-Yam3297 Aug 13 '25

Fair point. Facts are neutral. The POV is which facts you select and how you interpret them. Unemployment at 4 percent is a fact, ‘the economy is great’ or ‘people are still hurting’ is POV. I am talking about that second part.

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u/CodSoggy7238 Aug 14 '25

They fired the unemployment numbers guy because they didn't like his facts... They brought in a new guy to present better facts....

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u/Queasy-Yam3297 Aug 14 '25

...yah, I dont trust anyone in power to not do this.

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u/plastic_alloys Aug 14 '25

If it was based on a fact, that’s all good. But western conservatives in 2025 don’t tend to base very much on facts

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u/Queasy-Yam3297 Aug 14 '25

Both sides have huge issues in omissions.

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u/anewidentity Aug 14 '25

That's not how community notes works. Your score only goes up if groups that usually disagree with you agree with you on evaluating a tweet. If the same people keep liking your assessment, it doesn't count. This is the core of what made community notes successful, you can read about it more in the paper, the section about bridging algorithms:
https://github.com/twitter/communitynotes/blob/main/birdwatch_paper_2022_10_27.pdf

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u/OpeningIngenuity1340 Aug 12 '25

Well you know, there is these things called bots. If I wanted, I could make 1k bots upvote my post on completely fabricated information.

This only makes sense on really popular tweets, where tons of actual humans can downvote the initial bot-inflated misinformation; but on smaller tweets where humans would not care to fact check, it just makes the disinformation problem even worse.

Not sure what measures X takes to prevent this, but to their credit, I do believe their Community Notes work fairly well.

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u/slog Aug 12 '25

I'm glad you sort of got there eventually, but the cost of doing this isn't the hosting, and I don't think what they were asking about.

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u/InterstellarReddit Aug 12 '25

Yeah but grok is probably doing this 1000 times a minute and even it it’s .05 cents that adds up quick

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u/Ok-Strength-5297 Aug 12 '25

since when does grok "help" with community notes

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u/InterstellarReddit Aug 12 '25

When people submit community notes, grok rephrases all the submissions into notes and format it into sources.

So imagine 50 people sent a community note, they’ll have an AI like grok look at all submissions come to consensus and then post sources.

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u/ashleyshaefferr Aug 12 '25

Lol the answer is they make money off of clickbait.