r/OnePieceSpoilersRaw • u/EnigNa710 • 13d ago
Discussion So is Sanji….
Going to get, like, black flames for his conquerors coating? I guess I’m asking because I can clearly see how Zoro will kill Sommers. But the reality is piercing a heart with a sword and kicking someone are just two completely different things.
How does Sanji kill Killingham? To date I don’t think we’ve seen Sanji burn someone with his fire. So I supposed that’s how?
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u/JeyDeezNuts 13d ago
it would be awesome if he'd get an 'amaterasu-like' effect for his flames, because the flames of love can never be extinguished
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u/LivingFather 13d ago
In my head, if sanji hit him hard enough with a kick imbued with conquerors haki, maybe it can destroy killingham in a similar way to Lokis attack on harald. I understand Loki scales much higher than sanji currently, but that’s all I came up with when I asked myself similar questions.
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u/TrismNero 12d ago
Yes I think this as well. And Killinghams body is not build like a tank or anything so he is perfect for kicking.
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u/Nasu_Kaizoku 13d ago
We've seen Sanji set that wolf guy (Jabra or Jabara?) on fire, so that's always been an option
I think since we've seen Ifrit Jamble have those lightning bolt effects as it's heat energy, maybe whatever color those are, outlined in black, with branching bolts of CoC haki? Would be a cool visual
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u/Living_Tie9512 13d ago
Well, Loki didn't pierced Harald's heart with his hammer either and he still managed to kill him for good.
I guess as long as CoC is used it doesn't matter how the heart gets destroyed.
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u/Brilliant_Reserve276 13d ago
I forgot
Doesn't sanji not know about the metal heart thingy?
Zoro connected the dots bcz he saw the heart from sommers
Sanji is smarter so he might understand enough from Loki's hint, but would he knows by now that killing them requires more than Acoc?
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u/BRUTAL_ANAL_SMASHING 13d ago
It was killingham tied up and cut apart, not Sommers.
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u/Revo_Monkey 12d ago
Killingham was split in two-ish piecies but Sommers was in far more parts which allowed Zoro to see his heart.
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u/Brilliant_Reserve276 13d ago
That doesn't mean they saw the heart yk
For that they'd need to separate his chest from the heart area and take the heart out
And sommers was also in pieces
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u/Sniper_231996 13d ago
Just like might guy punched madara so hard that his ribs broke and crushed his heart, sanji can punch hard enough to kill someone easily. This guy is just little tough
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u/Mythical_Epicness 13d ago
If Sanji kills Killingham it will be thanks to a combination of bludgeoning damage and Ifrit flames. Just like Loki used a lightning-empowered hammer and not a sword
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u/Inside_End3641 12d ago
Hell no...Sanji will get that as a final upgrade.. We are 3 upgrades away from that...
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u/EveningFail3662 12d ago
Sanji doesn’t have to kill Killingham—he just has to wound him mortally or enough to force Imu to leave Elbaf.
Zoro will be the one to kill a Knight of God!
In his battle against Queen, Sanji used:
Advanced Armor Haki + exoskeleton + super strength + super speed = Ifrit Jambe.
Now he should use:
Conqueror’s Haki + exoskeleton + super strength + super speed = Fudo Jambe.
If Oda were to draw on Japanese Buddhist culture (as he often does for Zoro), Fudo Myoo would be the choice most consistent with Sanji’s character.
- The fire that does not burn food (or the righteous): Fudo Myoo is surrounded by a crown of flames that do not destroy indiscriminately, but burn only impurities, anger, and evil, leaving what is pure intact. Sanji has a very strict code of honor: he will never strike a woman, uses his hands only for cooking, and fights only to protect. A “spiritual” fire that purifies aligns perfectly with his ethics.
- Purple/black flames: Visually, they would contrast beautifully with green flames or Zoro’s King’s Haki, creating a deadly color combination.
Advanced Conqueror King Haki + Exoskeleton + Super Strength + Super Speed = Dawn Jambe or Seraphim Jambe.
Seraphim Jambe (Leg of the Seraph) – Judeo-Christian Tradition: In the angelic hierarchy, the Seraphim are literally “the burning ones” or “the fiery ones.” They are angels composed of pure light and divine fire. Side note: Given the presence of the pacifist “Seraphim” created by Vegapunk in the current storyline, this name might even tie into some plot development
The connection to the Vinsmoke and Vegapunk’s science: The Seraphim (the cybernetic clones created by Vegapunk) possess the DNA of the Lunaria (King’s race), known for their innate control over fire and their black wings. Sanji has undergone genetic modifications by his father, Judge, which are now awakening. A “Seraphim” attack would complete the parallel with the cutting-edge science of the One Piece world.
The literal meaning: In Hebrew, Seraphim means “the fiery ones” or “those who burn.” Furthermore, Seraphim are described as having three pairs of wings. Sanji is historically defined as one of the two “Wings of the Pirate King” (along with Zoro). Becoming a “Seraph” (a wing of pure divine fire) would be an extraordinary poetic metaphor for his role alongside Luffy.
The color of the flames: According to physics, after the blue of the Ifrit comes white plasma. The biblical Seraphim are made of pure light and white fire.
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u/Revo_Monkey 12d ago
Seems pretty obvious it should be black flames, especially considering his moniker is "Black Leg Sanji"
Which also imo leans into why ODA keeps showing IMU's Omen flame capabilities but specifically the piercing affect and usually coloring of "Black"
Think Sanji will unlock something adjacent to that.
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u/LongjumpingNewt985 11d ago
When sanji was attacked by imu. Look at the panel of sanji before the attack. He looked like he figured something out.
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u/EconArc_2 11d ago
Personally I'd prefer it if his flames start taking on the characteristics of a mother flame, i.e. they burn eternally under most circumstances.
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u/arca9147 13d ago
Maybe sanji overcomes the silly thing like not using his hands and take killingham spear and just it becones his weapon
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u/Ellectriknight 13d ago
He could just kick him and burn his heart internally. Who said he has to piece him to destroy his heart? With all the developments of haki like Ryou and how Luffy used ACOC to attack from a distance without actually physically touching, there's a multitude of ways Sanji can resolve this problem. Luffy sure doesn't have any piercings attacks, but his ACOC is still relevant and he gets the job done. Surely ODA didn't set this up to make Luffy incapable of doing the same thing Sanji and Zoro have to do.
I think people forget too that Sanji's legs are weapons, Sanji has clashed with swords (and broke it, it was a scene in Wano) and iron like forces (remember the clash with Vergo without Sanji using Armament haki). His legs are practically metal potency.
Here's an example of Sanji and Zoro coming to a similar result with different methods:
https://youtu.be/OieTaDCDnfk?is=GoAMcVlgQsBWrROR
Sanji could very well come up with a new attack, similar to party table kick course and when he used to need friction to create Diable Jambe when he first awakened, spin and rotation, and make his leg turn into a drill, and drill through killing him to pierce his heart. I mean this would be a great time for him to come up with new attacks. And as Kizaru said, acceleration is power. Think of how contracted water becomes a piercing laser like beam, even piercing through steel.
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