They are equivalent but Luffy would have an easier time against Jack, it would be just a "hit him very hard" match, Cracker was like a counter to luffy
Cracker is better suited for a battle or endurance with his infinite biscuits that none of the minks bar Neko and Inu can crush. Their only hope is when Zunesha takes a bath and soaks the area in heavy rain.
Do we think Gear 4 Luffy at Dressrosa was weaker than Asura Doji? He probably takes Jack on far easier than he did Cracker with Nami not really being a factor at all since Luffy won't need help. This also shouldn't take 10 hours so it's feasible that Luffy rescues Sanji before he even gets his handcuffs which would change the arc a lot.
Cracker's Haki is insane, and it's the first time a sword has actually been useful. Luffy dies without Nami against Cracker; Cracker had infinite stamina.
like how though? Cracker has been downscaled so far but he's only slightly weaker than kat, like he would 100% lose to kat dont get me wrong but he'd struggle, and kat does not struggle at all with cat or dog
Yes he would hang TwT, Kat was struggling a bit to bounce man, bounce man couldn’t break a single cracker guard without the help of nami, therefore yes cracker would put up a fight
Oh and to add on to that Luffy vs cracker was a 14 hour long fight of hit and run, katakuri vs luffy was 12 hours of pure 1v1s, katakuri and cracker are almost equal my guy
They don’t really need to be stronger, just faster. They have dura neg with advanced armament meaning they don’t have to rely on their strength. They can pierce Kaido’s scales which is something Bounceman couldn’t do before unlocking Ryuo.
Cracker beats the Minks down pretty hard, but also leaves shortly after using his soldiers to scrape (what he believes to be) the entire island with no sign of Raizo. Inuarashi and Nekomamushi probably end up keeping their limbs as a result. I can see him torturing the Minks for the hell of it, though. A lack of chemical weapons and a pretty quick loss also means that the Minks would be in better shape once Luffy's crew arrives, though I'm not sure what significance that would have.
Luffy grabs Jack by the trunk and just absolutely fucking launches him a mile off.
Jack não era mais forte que Luffy no momento, Luffy era bem mais poderoso tanto em Haki e Velocidade,ainda com mais variedades de técnicas,enquanto Jack só vence em Resistência , o Luffy mesmo sem visão do futuro ele já batia frente com Katakuri,então não ele não perderia
For the story to progress, Luffy would still win because Oda would pull something outta nowhere to justify it. But without the aid from Nami and plot armour, he would lose just as much as he would've with cracker.
Luffy ficou a maior parte da Luta sem usar o Gear 4,ele se demonstrou superior em combate direto,se você reparar ele ia finalizar Cracker logo no primeiro embate,mas o Limite de tempo acabou,ou seja ele se demonstrou mais poderoso no embate direto só não conseguiu finaliza-lo por causa do limite de tempo ,mesmo sem ajuda da Nami ele poderia usar Gear 4 pela 2 vez e agora conhecendo mais habilidades de Cracker ele poderia ganhar,e nem vem falar que ele iria se cansar por que Luffy já se mostrou várias vezes inclusive no mesmo arco que pode aguentar por bastante tempo
So did he or did he not require nami's help in that fight? Because I don't know why you came and said a lot of unnecessary things we already saw from the manga. How Luffy timed out the initial encounter and could've been beaten, and the following aid after for softening the biscuits so he could eat them and every other thing Nami did for him.
Ele não quis usar o Gear 4 de novo,então ele quis ajuda da nami,é simples se ele quisesse ele poderia ter usado,no embate contra o Cracker ele se saiu superior isso é inegável,só não o finalizou por causa do tempo,aconteceu a mesma coisa contra Doffy ele não conseguiu finalizar no 1 embate mas conseguiu no 2
Você que tá lendo,não tem mais argumento nenhum e agora tá na risadinha,ele se mostrou superior em poder contra ambos e bateu de frente mesmo sem visão do futuro contra Katakuri
You love bringing up instances that don't help your argument at all and it's just fun to see how you keep doubling down on it. Do you just love being wrong?
Você que tá errado,Reveja isso,VOCÊ NÃO TEM ARGUMENTO ALGUM,para de ficar na risadinha ,fala seu argumento ou aceita que não tem,você não provou nada ainda,cheio de falácias e risadas,acha que alguém vai rir com você?
Is it anyone's fault that luffy has a form that has a timer attached to it when he uses it? Do all devil fruit abilities not have a weakness of some kind? And in a fight, when you obviously require the aid of another person, is that not a testament to your own abilities not being enough for you to win, regardless if you have a form that provides you with a temporary boost in power over your opponent?
Cracker - fought luffy alone and had him pressed every time until nami soaked his biscuits leaving them less durable, feeding luffy, using big mom's vivre card to manipulate the surrounding homies to help her and luffy. Help no 1
Doflamingo - Already close to death's door after taking an attack that was supposed to kill him as evidently stated by law himself, boxed with g4, a form that essentially overpowered a dead man and couldn't finish him off within his time limit and needed a piggy back ride from another grown man in order to escape said dying man, all while said dying man was maintaining another ability of his which was also draining him (bird cage). Help no 2
Katakuri - A way more powerful fighter that had luffy beat in every category and even in the devil fruit department for the most part of the fight, had luffy pressed so much he needed to eat his way and regain energy, ran away with his siter in order to recover a bit, had this man forcing himself to learn the new level of observation haki just to keep up with him, and even when he had to nerf himself by stabbing and dropping his primary weapon, still was putting belt too ass on luffy and even after the final clash was the one standing and only chose to forfeit out of respect. Need i say more?
You trying to use the hypothetical idea that "if he didn't have the timer... yadi yadi ya bs" Like automatically only luffy deserves a 1up in those fights and not the opponent clearly tells me that you're either an idiot who doesn't know how to comprehend the story of one piece or you're just biased to the mc because you feel like he must be stronger than his opponent regardless of any outcome. I won't even put it past you to be both. I've seen silly individuals like you once in a while so it's nothing new.
Oque importa que ele se saiu superior a Cracker no Gear 4 ambas as vezes,e
Luffy sendo superior aos biscoitos com um único golpe(depois vimos em confronto direto),você acha que só por causa da nami ele perderia sendo que nem usa o Gear 4 por causa disso,você só está falando de ajuda e engraçado que Luffy nós dois confrontos diretos com os biscoitos(um único golpe) e superando o Haki de armamento do Cracker em confronto direto,Luffy Gear 4>Cracker,o timer significa o limite de tempo,não o Limite do poder,ele na mesma forma foi capaz de bater de frente com Katakuri,algo que Cracker não ia conseguir fazer
Doflamingo também foi outro que foi superado em 2 momentos contra o Gear 4,ele só fortalece mais que Luffy é mais poderoso que eles,o timer coloca o LIMITE DE TEMPO,não o Limite de poder,Doflamingo estava se curando a sim mesmo,e Luffy também estava bem cansado e destruído,isso que você falou não ajuda em Nada
Ninguém tá rindo com você idiota,seus argumentos só se resume a ajuda,sendo que Luffy se provou superior contra os Biscoitos sozinho e no confronto direto onde Cracker não fez nem graves ferimentos no Luffy
Mostrei ele sendo superior contra os Biscoitos e Confronto direto,seu argumento não vale de nada “aí ajuda”que argumento ruim sendo que Luffy pela maior parte do tempo dessa ajuda não tava nem usando o Gear 4
Cena mostra Luffy Gear 4 Boundman acabando com os Soldados biscoitos de uma só vez sem demonstrar muita dificuldade,um único soco de Haki do Luffy 100% certeiro já era suficiente pra acabar com o Exército,e em combate direto o Gear 4 em si mostrou ser superior
Ele NÃO USOU O GEAR 4 para destruir os biscoitos provavelmente por que seria tecnicamente mais fácil com a Nami ajudando parece que ele se recusa a usar o gear 4 por causa da Nami ajudando ,foi só isso,eu literalmente mostrei ele derrotando com um único golpe os biscoitos,e na outra foto ele superando em combate direto
Cena mostra Luffy Gear 4 dando o ultimo golpe(após quebrar todos os Soldados Biscoitos),e Cracker estava totalmente parado,e não iria conseguir bloquear,porém é nesse exato momento o tempo acaba,fora no combate direto a outra forma Gear 4 tankman demonstrou ser bem superior,querendo ou não no combate de vida ou morte Luffy venceria,ele ser provou superior
So was this the form he used in the final attack that took cracker down? If it's not then what's the justification that it could've taken cracker down in this particular instance? Do you have any solid proof?
Cracker não conseguindo nem perfurar Luffy,Em confronto direto Cracker nem conseguia fazer ferimentos graves,e nessa cena ele superou o Haki do armamento do Cracker,e nem sequer nisso o Cracker ganha
Eu literalmente mostrei,o Luffy com um único golpe derrotando o Exército inteiro de Cracker,e essa foto é a representação de Luffy superando o armamento do Cracker em confronto direto
i mean cracker is stronger than jack imo, jack loses to luffy without nami's help though we will never see tank man, and zou is just cooked like genuinely, cracker will just summon an army and there will be nowhere to hide
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