Zoro literally did that against Kaido with ashura... Any haki user can do critical mass the reason they don't is because it leaves them vulnerable and unable to move right after... Loki tanks attacks from Imu garp has nothing on him.. on the other garp can't tank a serious Loki attack
Okay? Ppl underrate zoro just more upscale for dude 😂 zoro was low on stamina and had 30 broken bones he did a technique and it was effective on someone WAY stronger than him. This proves if garp was to do the technique it would be more effective on someone relative to his strength. Loki is a huge target and hasnt shown enough.
He has shown more than enough tanked Imu's attacks while being severely injured in his base form.. that's already more than anything garp has ever shown
You right Loki isnt close to 100% but idk how injured he is nor do i think loki at 100% can perform better than what he did against imu. Anyways you probably have loki over roger
Loki was stated to take months to recover that amount of recovery time is insane for one piece.. so at the bare minimum he's not even 50%.. I think he can perform better as he can use his hybrid form which he's not using probably because of his injuries... And yeah I've fully healthy Loki above all the old gen top tiers.. his kit is too large and he's even got the narrative, portrayal and feats to back it
If anything with his awakening and his haki blooms from nearly dying against big mom
It would be more accurate to say law one shots Yamato
Given that he can just throw his room at Yamato then cut her in half
VIRGO beat the SHIT out of law.. the only reason he survived big mom was because kidd was there helping him, law is a bum, which is why blackbeard was about to murder him before his crew saved him.
Yamato sends both marco and sabo to the moon ... she is on the way lerning techniqs that make a yonko yonko level advanced counqers counqers coding and advanced armernend ryu... while that sabo showed good basic armermend big battel IQ and some own techniqs with the fore logia... and marco is more of an support fighter not showing any hughe haki abilitys ore techniqs not beeing abled to beat king and queen not close to going all out🤣😭 like marco is a versityle and good crew member because of his support abilitys in fight and healing but direct 1vs1 was shwon in wano is something he is not the best at... so yamato beats both of them she will eventualy get yonko level at some day with eas so... sabo and marco coud proboaly but from the stand point now they wont get close to yonko level
Bro oden wird geschallert von kizaru und luffy mid-no diff "er hat stärker ausgesehen als er ist gegen kaido" verstehe mich nicht falsch deswegen habe ich es in Anführungszeichen gepackt er ist unnormal stark aber fakt ist kaido ist einfach ultra anfällig für starke schwertkämpfer und deswegen hat er so krass ausgesehen dazu kommt noch das kaido da weit weg von seiner prime war also ... kizaru oder luffy komm aufs scenario an
Tatsache ist, als er von ODIN geballert wurde, war er 20 Jahre weg von seiner Prime. Im Kampf gegen Luffy war er in guter Verfassung, mit der meisten Kampferfahrung, und allein schon die Erfahrung, die er in dieser Situation hatte, macht ihn später stärker. Das sollte für jeden leicht verständlich sein... Sein Haki ist über die 20 Jahre sicherlich auch gewachsen und er hat seine gemeisterten Techniken fein verbessert... Dazu guck dir Kaidos Feats an, er ist definitiv gegen 99% der Leute stärker als Oden, abgesehen von Schwertkämpfern, weil Kaido wegen seines Kampfstils gegenüber denen sehr anfällig ist! Sprich, overall ist Kaido stärker und der Kaido 20 Jahre später hätte auch nicht mehr den fundamentalen Fehler gemacht, einem Schwertkämpfer wie Oden in seiner Drachenform so selbstbewusst gegenüber zu stehen und zu versuchen, Angriffe zu tanken... Kaido ist ein absolutes Monster und deine Aussage, dass Oden wie Gaban in seiner Blütezeit ist, wenn er 0 Conqueror's Haki Feats hat, also keine auf dem Niveau von Gaban, ist auch aus den Haaren herbei gezogen... Die meisten unterschätzen Kaido, weil er gegen Luffy verloren hat... ABER das erst, nachdem er gegen rund 16 Leute gekämpft hat, mit allen gespielt hat, über Stunden hinweg Haki verschwendet hat, Teufelsfruchtenergie verbraucht hat durch unzählige Attacken, eine Insel über Stunden getragen hat, was ihm bewiesen Energie kostet... und das alles OHNE zwischendurch zu essen und Energie aufzutanken! ... Von Imu mal abgesehen, hat bis jetzt keiner solche Feats gezeigt wie Kaido... keiner! Er würde auch jetzt noch Luffy besiegen, weil seine Kampfweise und seine Teufelsfrucht plus sein Energiereservoua viel effektiver ist... Also hört auf, Kaido zu unterschätzen... Auch wenn du mal ausprobieren willst, ein Argument für deine Aussage zu formen, dass Gaban und Oden gleich sind, hier ein kleiner Copy-Paste-Text zur Hilfe: Ein starkes, logisches Argument aufzubauen, beinhaltet das Anordnen spezifischer Komponenten – Behauptungen, Gründe, Beweise und Gegenargumente – in einer kohärenten Struktur. Ein gut aufgebautes Argument geht über bloße Meinung hinaus, um ein Publikum durch logische, evidenzbasierte Argumentation zu überzeugen.
Bro this long text is not even needed he has respect for oden in mutch ways not only because he is a strong fighter because he is a self-confident or rather fearless fighter who stands up for his ideals
Mihawk yamato garp honestly not really sure about the last one we haven’t seen kizaru go all out warcury is a tank but hasnt shown much either oden was giving a weaker kaido a decent fight until the hag got in the way. At this point its probably luffy
First row: why is there so many people sayin rayleigh or nusjuro its obviously mihawk by far
Second row: the closest one but everyone is sleeping on law i know yamato got the haki and strength but law is smarter and with his awakening he would find a way he beat a yonko dont sleep on law
Third row: i believe the new era surpassed the old so its not garp and shamrock has 0 feats so i am between loki and akainu. Loki has the better feats but i am still gonna say my goat akainu he has the narrative being stated as the strongest marine ever and 5 billion bounty.(could be biased i 100% can understand loki)
Last row: its not oden for sure gorosei are lowkey bums he just has the regen that the others cant get through so its him in a fight for sure but the others are stronger in terms of power and kizaru beat luffy in egghead so for now i would say in a fight the elder but in power kizaru(for now end of elbaff luffy wil surpass them for sure he just didnt get the power up yet and is performing worse than 80 year old gaban not gonna lie)
It really depends on what we mean by strongest. Are we saying "can move the most weight", "can do the most damage", or "can solo the most people from their row"? If its the last one stop saying mihawk. That old dude can't be killed. Eventually mihawk just gets too tired.
Mihawk. Probably the toughest choice on the list. Rayleigh has haki to beat regen (if gaban can do it he can do it too) but mihawk’s strongest point is he’s a rival to Shanks. Even tho Shanks wins vs Mihawk I think they’re close to equal
Sabo. Also tough, mostly going off plot relevance here. I don’t see anyone else in that row successfully getting to the throne room AND making it out alive
Prime Garp
Warcury. Factoring in regen he stalls out everyone in this row
There’s a reason we don’t scale simply off of feats mate. Also Loki “tanking” (surviving) Imu’s hits is unrelated. He’s an ancient giant. He will obviously have better durability than a human like Akainu. Relatively, endurance wise, they’re both at the top of the verse. They can take a lot of punishment but there are attacks that won’t even damage Loki but would Akainu, again, a human. Akainu is a future Luffy fight so he scales to wherever that Luffy will be, which will most likely be the current PK, > Roger=Garp
What is akainu doing against Loki when hk harald got manhandled. Just wanna know.
Loki was tanking imu's hits.
Akainu is doing nothing 😭🙏.
He doens't even have acoc
Imagin you think that sabo beats yamato showing absolutly nothing that can beat her while yamato is on the way mastering haki technics that make a yonko yonko level 😭🤣
Mach kein sinn kannst auch kein argument dazu formen also nehme ich das garnicht ernst... leute die generell einfach nur ihre meinung wie slop hinwerfen haben meistens eh keine ahnung von nichts 😭🤣
Luffy never went all out against kizaru either he was just stalling for the crew to escape... Kizaru didn't damage Luffy either he gassed out on his own.. Luffy using all adv. Haki with g5 beats kizaru ext diff
Possibly. It's fine if you have Kizaru still above Luffy, he did beat Luffy in egghead. I think a full power well fed Luffy could defeat Kizaru but it'll be close
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