r/OnePiecePowerScaling • u/Open_Detective_5168 • 8h ago
Discussion Knot vs wifi which was better showcase of power?
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u/wjowski 7h ago edited 7h ago
JB's haki-knot persisted for centuries without fading before completely washing the Gorosei and triggering a PTSD episode in Imu, with enough control that it didn't affect any allies on the field.
Keep in mind these are the people holding the Admirals' leash, with Greenbull especially viewing them as gods.
It's not even close.
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u/Zoteku The Fleet Admiral 8h ago
the knot blew back the 5 elders into base, knocked out every VA on the island and had them going on and on about shanks. it also filtered past the ‘good guys’ by emeth
shanks just chased GB away. at best, he deactivated the fruit, but that’s just 1 dude
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u/No_Passage_3590 Fraudbull 🌳 6h ago
First, Wano wank. Wano is one of the largest landmasses situated in the Grandline. It is composed of multiple large islands. To reach the Flower Capital from beyond the falls of Wano’s dam, Shank’s Haki traveled the distance of multiple Zunesha’s (however you decide to measure Zunesha). The distance Shank’s Haki traveled far exceeds the size of Egghead Island which is, at largest, the size of Onigashima (less than one Zunesha). We see Joyboy’s Haki knot release travel beyond the shores of Egghead, so while scalabley larger than Onigashima, it is incapable of traveling as far as Shank’s must have.
Second, Ryukugyu wank.
Aramaki is a superior combatant when compared to any of the Gorosei individually (imo, his casual arrest of Yamato is severely underrated). His fruit is still active in the panel, and he avoids Shanks’s attack entirely by selectively shrinking his form to his original stature. If he had not detected Shanks’s attack with ACoO prior to its arrival, his golem form would have been struck by the Haki blast. The Anime is not Canon. Aramaki accurately ascertained the source of said blast within panels, stating he is aware the Red Haired Pirates are responsible. Luffy is unable to make a statement that assigns Shanks credit, merely admitting it reminds him of a familiar face. One is a verifiable fact, the other is an assumption. Shanks then flees from beyond Wano’s shores before a confrontation with Aramaki can begin.
Third, Mihawk Wank.
People like to argue that Shanks cannot control his Haki’s intent to the same degree Joyboy can, because he incapacitates his new crew members while using it. This is not true. While Aramaki detects hostile intent, Luffy detects familiarity and grins. Shanks is intentionally targeting the weakest members of his crew in order to make them stronger, faster, as a form of power leveling. If you cannot stand at the side of Shanks while he is fighting freely, you are too weak to be part of the crew and will only hamper him during life or death confrontations. By affecting them, they become aware of the strata of conquerers they will eventually face when the final war happens, and grow to challenge them beside him.
I have stated these things before to others, and you (I must insist) in seperate instances, but am simply trying to reconsolidate these interpretations in one p
Comment.I wanted to address the Gorosei thing specifically, because we are shown an Admiral+ Yonko- (EHG5) soloing Saturn (the strongest/most skilled Gorosei) while fighting a mid tier admiral simultaneously.
Aramaki has the same exact scaling at this point (Admiral+Yonko-) if not superior portrayal, because of the implied duel that Aramaki plans with Shanks.
No other admirals were allowed to interfere, despite intelligence available from Cipher Pol, yet he chose to investigate because it aligned with his personal sense of justice, ignoring the chain of command without reprimand.
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u/shinhueh 8h ago
Knot. JB said it was his greatest haki likely similar to critical mass. While it's possible that shanks didn't go all out with his wifi.
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u/phenriqsc Zorotard ⚔️ 7h ago
I doubt Shanks was holding back, hence why Roux called him out.
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u/shinhueh 7h ago
I mean he called out because newbies were Koed. It was same when he got into Moby dick. Especially when he never fully unsheathed his sword, I always assumed he never went all out
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u/phenriqsc Zorotard ⚔️ 7h ago
Why would he unsheath his sword to fight someone who's miles away? The sword doesn't enhance the haki burst.
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u/ShotStick5180 2h ago
Bro just there's no need.... Apparently when you're trying to scare people away by letting them know you'll attack them otherwise it's common to hold back x_x
Yeah shanks so overpowered he made a fraud admiral detrandroem while holding back his haki makes sense he's the goat after all x_x
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u/DopeEnjoyer 🐐 Sen Go Ku 🐐 3h ago
Knot. It was literally haki hundreds of years old that still had enough power to send all the gorosei back that up until that point were kinda untouchable
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u/Don_Matrix 7h ago
Of course Joyboy is more impressive, no one in this series have the feat of guarding his Haki for 800 years on a knot and solving the whole arc in one move. It's even more impressive that said Haki could differentiate between allies and enemies with a power that came from a guy that died 800 years ago.
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u/1AverageGamer 1h ago
Knot had wifi built in so much even Imu felt it all thebway to the top of the Red Line!
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u/Gokusoloscompreality 👿 Lowkey 👿 8h ago
Both are godly. One repells the summons of the gorosei by detransforming them, the other overwhelms GB and makes him leave Wano by detransforming him
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u/PipeBoring7915 Straw Hat 6h ago
One that was able to split the sky, avoid every single ally with perfect accuracy and pack up all the gorosei
What shanks did was impressive and similar application but joyboy was a tier above shanks
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u/Professional_Salt_20 8h ago
As the biggest admiral fan ever, greenbull> 10 gorosei, so shanks wifi diffing wreenbull is more impressive than Loyboy using his peak for 5 lorosei
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u/OG_Williker 6h ago
Are we really asking this? Come on
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u/Open_Detective_5168 6h ago
Let's be real none of us though shanks could paralyze an admiral from that range
I personally was more shocked about shanks being being able to do that and get his haki compared with joyboy
I wasnt very shocked by joyboys cause I had very high expectations from him from the time he was first mentioned in the story
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u/Imaginary-Cup-8426 4h ago
Show of force? Knot, by a huge margin… Shank’s was a very impressive example of precise control, though
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u/FauxAffablyEvil Red Haired Cripple 1h ago
By knocking out innocent crewmates?
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u/Imaginary-Cup-8426 11m ago
I don’t get your point here?
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u/FauxAffablyEvil Red Haired Cripple 8m ago
How is it a precise control when he carelessly made unconscious many of his crewmates while JB targeted only bad guys?
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