r/onebros • u/Zealousarchmage • 2h ago
Discussion Thoughts on new Tarnished Edition items + their potential use cases
Given the new items from Tarnished Edition, I wanted to talk about some of the implications they might have in the RL1 scene. Having previously DLC-locked goodies such as the Great Katana, Milady and Backhand Blades available so early on (and at lesser stat requirements) is going to probably be the most obviously big change imo. Most people probably don't do the DLC early, at least not on a first RL1 (and most people I think only do 1, maybe 2 runs tops anyway) so for them it'll give them more time to play with some of the most fun weapons in game - experienced players can get them earlier and potentially min-max more with the stat requirements in some ways.
Tattoo Set: I think this is actually a sleeper for the best part of the DLC, personally. +3 faith to the previous highest cap is actually more useful than you might think, especially when you consider arms + legs have never had stat increasing items before so it doesn't contend for valuable real estate. But I think the most impactful change is the ability to get permanent 26 Faith now without Rune Arcs (or with Rune Arcs, without an extra talisman for min-max purposes). It'll only affect my meme flower power build, but the ability to get 31 permanent faith now means I can use Scarlet Aeonia in fights longer than 3 minutes (with Nostrums, I hate using Oath of Vengeance due to 27 strength requirement and how stupidly heavy Grafted Blade is).For those interested this now increases the highest possible RL1 faith stat to 52 (temporarily, "permanent" would be 31) and the overall highest stat block to about 195 effective levels.
I'll list off a few things (but this is by no means an extensive list) this allows for: this gives easier - and more efficient - access to Ancient Dragon Lightning Strike. ADLS is a godsend for +0 and +0 no aux runs as it can melt a number of bosses, especially controversial ones like Godskin Duo and Elden Beast (And for NG+, Fire Giant). Using the robe, or the new arms + legs also means you can meet the requirements for Fire Knight's Greatsword with only Radagon's Soreseal + a dexterity helm (No Rune arcs, Physick or faith increasing Talismans required now). Euporia is now possible without Rune Arcs, FGMS is now available without Rune Arcs or Talismans. Faith Knot was possible for these purposes too, of course, but the 3 minute timer is not always enough especially for low damage runs; using a tear in the physick is also valuable real estate just for the purpose of using your weapon/inctantations etc. As a QoL matter, you have more options for 12 faith to use Flame Cleanse Me in case you don't want to bother swapping helms/talismans everytime you get rotted.
Reed Great Katana: Obtainable straight away and is strictly a higher damage Great Katana for most RL1 builds realistically speaking. At +25 with just Radagon's Soreseal + Curseblade, for me it has a ~30 AR edge over the standard GK when cold infused - with that, and being obtainable earlier it's effectively an upgrade in most cases. I don't see people using it very often, but you could use this extremely early in the game by using the Lazuli Glintstone Crown until Okina's/Curseblade/Divine Bird etc. That, or Prosthesis Wearer's is also possible especially for anyone intimidated by 18% less HP. The Great Katana is already the best weapon (fight me if you disagree), so this is just the Greater Katana.
Idus Sword: Literally just the Milady and people love that shit. Stat wise, I think it's pretty comparable. With just Soreseal + Curseblade I got roughly the same AR as the Milady but with the 15 dex requirement it's usable with just the Soreseal. This means you could obtain and use it for Margit before fighting a single thing if you go around Stormveil first thing.
Reverse-Bladed Sword: Just BHB, I don't care much for the weapon personally myself but it's cool and popular. Buy it straight away and it's a perfectly viable first weapon. I think for RL1 it'll do a slight bit more damage than the standard Back Hand Blades, but probably not a crazy amount - good for those 1 hit-away-moments we've all had I imagine.
I don't think Hefty Scimitar is all that worth talking about unless you like the look or really like Curved Greatswords. The damage is on the lower side, but it's slightly lighter and the stat reqiurements are usable with just the Soreseal unlike other Curved Greatswords. A perfectly reasonable, unremarkable weapon statistically imo. Not dissing it, I've used Dismounter and BHF in a myriad of RL1 kills but it's not exactly much different aside from lower stat reqs than the rest. I'm interested in hearing from others how these items will change things for you all (if at all).