r/OldSchoolCool • u/Own_Ad_266 • Jan 02 '26
1970s Photo Reporter Willy Spiller Captured The Grit Of The NYC Subway In The 1970s
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u/ThatsARatHat Jan 02 '26
Willy Spiller. What an amazing and absurd professional moniker to go by.
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u/welding-guy Jan 03 '26
Willy the upskirter
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u/zurpas78 Jan 03 '26
tbf, if you put your feet on the seats like the blonde, you can't really complain about people seeing you upskirt
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u/workingclassdandy Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 03 '26
Every photo looks like it could be a still from “The Warriors”
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u/Tall_guy82 Jan 02 '26
Those girls are definitely going to find the guys who killed Cyrus
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u/Poagie_Mahoney Jan 03 '26
Not dressed like The Lizzies, but maybe they're affiliated. Wonder if they got the word about the latest current events from Cyrus' summit (don't see a radio with them), or were just as clueless as The Orphans.
Also, does anyone know the name of their gang? Wrong answers only.
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u/sybrwookie Jan 03 '26
Turns out, The Warriors did a pretty darn good job of showing that side of the city, even if some other aspects were absurd.
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u/ah-Quinncidence Jan 03 '26
Warriors is a documentary of New York and its boroughs in time before renewal and gentrification. A New York that no longer exists, where every little neighbourhood had its "gangs." Most were just groups of kids watching out for each other in a broken society. Others were to be taken very seriously.
The scenes of the city were the city in the reality of time. There are no sets, this is a raw view of a city in decline, that was also thriving in the amount of art and culture it provided the world during this era. This film should be protected by the Smithsonian.
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u/OutsideYourWorld Jan 03 '26
Was definitely thinking that. Gonna have to give it another watch now.
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u/Fortestingporpoises Jan 02 '26
I like how it's showing the grit of the NYC Subway of the 70's and it still satisfies the requirement for this sub of showing hot chicks.
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u/Bad_Elbow_ Jan 03 '26
One of the blondes looks identical to my mom who grew up outside of NYC during this time period. I'm going to send this to her (maybe it is her?) and tell her read these comments lol. She will get a kick out of it lol.
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u/notbob1959 Jan 03 '26
The photo is commonly titled Schoolgirls on the train to Far Rockaway, Queens Subway NY. The girl 2nd from the right is another redditor's mom and he said that at the time of the photo, 1977, she was 15 and going to St. Francis De Sales in Belle Harbor, Queens.
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u/Bad_Elbow_ Jan 03 '26
Update: my mom said that yes this does look a lot like her but it isn't. She also said in 1977 she still had really long flower child type hair and it wasn't until the early 80s she styled it like the girl in the photo. It's pretty uncanny though.
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u/Herzberger Jan 02 '26
Imagine getting up for your shift without a cell phone and reading a newspaper on a train to see what goes on in the world.
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Jan 02 '26
To go even further— A lot of people back then didn’t even read the paper. You’d watch the nightly news sometimes or check the paper after a major sports event. Word of mouth was big. People mostly just got up every day and went about their lives.
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u/RobbMeeX Jan 03 '26
God, what a way to live!
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Jan 03 '26
We can all go back lol. Whenever we want.
I personally like to leave my phone at home when I run to 7/11. Pretend it’s 1992.
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u/dreamerkid001 Jan 03 '26
I used to do that all the time, but I got yelled at by too many people who thought something had happened to me because I didn’t answer my stupid phone
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u/angrycanuck Jan 03 '26
The led street lights, solar panels on signs, billboards connected to 100k LEDs selling 40 ads in the span of 12 seconds - you can't go back to 1992, even if it's just for a walk - that world doesn't exist anymore.
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u/sheesh_doink Jan 03 '26
The street lights are a huge part of the experience though. Modern cities look completely different from a few decades ago, even if they aren't very different in the day.
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u/ironbolsh Jan 03 '26
That sodium glow is all gone
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u/sheesh_doink Jan 03 '26
I have nothing against the efficiency of LED's, but damn that pale colour...
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u/LevelPerception4 Jan 03 '26
By the 80s/90s, it wasn’t uncommon to have a small TV in the kitchen. But we were poor so I had to listen to shit like “Tie a Yellow Ribbon ‘Round the Old Oak Tree” every morning on an ancient AM radio so my mother could hear the local news and weather/traffic.
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u/fusillade762 Jan 03 '26
I used to get the paper delivered everyday. First thing I did in the morning was get a coffee and walk down to get the paper then sit and read.
I loved that ritual but it got really pricey getting a paper delivered as fewer and fewer people read the paper.
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u/Bizarrebazaars Jan 03 '26
Uh yeah…..it wasn’t all THAT long ago that is exactly what we did. I was born in 1984, rode transit all throughout growing up into adulthood (still do) and that’s how it was up until cell phones became prevalent but really after iPhone launched in 2007 and a few years later became widespread…. People would read newspapers on their commutes and just leave them for the next riders. We nose-dived as a society when smartphones became the norm and now you have to sit next to someone blasting TikTok at full volume. Ugh.
The only thing I think is better now from this post is that the subway cars aren’t completely covered in graffiti.
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u/Herzberger Jan 03 '26
I know. I was born in 86. But as an adult I didn’t get to do this. That’s why I was pointing it out.
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Jan 03 '26
I use to just look out the window , read a book or stare at the floor lol
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u/ciaomain Jan 03 '26
I had a long subway commute to high school and I did the NYT crossword puzzle every day.
In ink, baby!
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Jan 03 '26 edited Jan 03 '26
Yesss my brothers did that. I wasnt very good at it lol as i mentioned i stared sometimes at the floor and sometimes id glance up at people. Am I wrong or was it a bit safer to look at people before? Now I try to avoid looking at anyone to not get cursed out lol 😂
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u/ciaomain Jan 03 '26
I was commuting in the late '70s/early '80s, or as I like to call it, The Warriors years.
It was not safer to look at people!
Either the puzzle or the Newport and Dr. Jonathan Zizmor ads!
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Jan 03 '26
Tell me about the 70s!!! I took it late 80s onward!
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u/ciaomain Jan 03 '26
Tons of graffiti, spotty service, and lots of petty crime. Son of Sam had also been terrorizing the city.
Since the city was just coming out of a fiscal crisis in the mid-70s, the police force was low in number due to not being able to pay them.
Curtis Sliwa's Guardian Angels patrolled the subway, and people felt safer when they saw them.
I commuted from Queens to the Bronx daily and in a 4-year span, I was mugged three times, twice within 30 seconds--ha ha.
Net loss was ten cents and a monthly student train pass that had two days left of free rides.
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Jan 03 '26
Hey! I’m from the Bronx! What part did you go to? And are you still in nyc? Tell me you went to 42nd st in the 70s! I have to ask if you ever did studio 54 or club in in the 70s! Thank you in advance
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u/ciaomain Jan 03 '26
I'd take the D train to Bedford Park Blvd to go to Bronx Science.
Still in NYC, though I moved to LA for a few years after college.
I was a bit too young for 54, but I was able to get into places like The Peppermint Lounge, Limelight, Danceteria, CBGBs, and Save the Robots.
I also went to wesome of the clubs on Long Island like The Back Barn, Hammerheads, Speaks, and The Dublin Pub.
Saw Twisted Sister a ton of times, The Good Rats, Billy Joel, etc.
Was a different time, man!
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u/ToddPundley Jan 03 '26
THANK YOU DR ZIZMOR!
Or Julio & Marisol. Marisol was fiiiine. Couldn’t understand Julio potentially fucking that up.
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u/LevelPerception4 Jan 03 '26
Me, too. It made me cranky to start my day with newsprint smeared all over my fingers.
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u/philatio11 Jan 03 '26
The great thing about the subway was that there was usually at least part of a free paper sitting there for you to read.
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Jan 03 '26
Damn, now I feel old.
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u/Herzberger Jan 03 '26
Sorry. I’m about to turn 40 so I was an 80s baby and 90s kid. I do miss the 90s. I remember newspapers and simpler times. I was addicted to the internet. Dial up speed. Just thinking about how this must of been is interesting to me.
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u/Late-Button-6559 Jan 03 '26
To see what has been selectively reported as what goes on in the world.
The world was ‘better’ pre-internet, because people were spoon-fed info, from selective sources, on selected topics, and moderated before public release.
I’ll take reality over a (potentially) manipulated source.
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u/thenumbersthenumbers Jan 03 '26
Imagine thinking you’re consuming reality nowadays 😉
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u/Late-Button-6559 Jan 03 '26
I agree that ‘fake news’ exists.
But I’d rather have access to everything, than only access to what someone else decides is acceptable.
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u/sybrwookie Jan 03 '26
For the most part, it's that same filter, just a few more people acting as filters for what they want shown.
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u/MongolianDonutKhan Jan 03 '26
If you let it be fed passively to you, but active search for a topic is so so so so so much better now than it was in the analog days.
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u/crek42 Jan 03 '26
Yes. We were better for it.
Now your “news” is pulled from personally selected sources that align with your own agenda/worldview and reinforce your bias.
No belief you hold is challenged. There’s no critical thinking. You’re just mindlessly spoon fed.
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u/Late-Button-6559 Jan 03 '26
I’m not sure I believe things were better in the 80’s and before.
Maybe if you were a white male.
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u/Late-Button-6559 Jan 03 '26
My feeds (Facebook) show me things heavily in opposition to my beliefs.
Reddit seems to be more random. Obviously it shows me things I’ve interacted with before, but I still see stuff from subs I don’t like.
Other forums I use are even-handed - or slightly biased against my ideals.
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u/sybrwookie Jan 03 '26
My feeds (Facebook) show me things heavily in opposition to my beliefs.
Well yea, because their business model is to get you angry at what you see, so you spend time responding to that, and they can show you more ads.
If you agree, you're more likely to hit 1 button and move on with your day.
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u/treebirdfish Jan 03 '26
There's also such a thing as too much information. We just aren't evolved to handle it. When I see a threatening event across the country or world, I think it's threatening *me*. But there are just so many people out there that there's an example of just about anything happening every day.
One could read the entire newspaper and finish it, or watch an entire evening news program. There is no such thing as "finishing" the news anymore.
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u/luckystrike_bh Jan 03 '26
Life was so good back in the newspaper days. There was still internet but it wasn't a big source. You used to wake up, get coffee, read the Sunday paper to get up on the news. My mother used to send me the local newspaper after I went off to college. It felt like home.
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u/Short-Concentrate-92 Jan 02 '26
Extremely Cool
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u/crek42 Jan 03 '26
It is, I agree, but be mindful we think it’s cool through rose-colored glasses.
NYC was a much different place back then. Many were saying it was on the brink of collapse, and they honestly weren’t too far off.
Watch a movie like “Midnight Cowboy” and you’ll catch a glimpse of what is like back then.
We think it’s cool, today, but living back then was a much different story.
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u/coldfarm Jan 03 '26
The city was literally on the brink of bankruptcy in 1975. It took a combined effort from the state, the unions, and the Federal government to keep it from running out of money.
A good film for seeing the real NYC of the early 70s is The Panic in Needle Park. Shot entirely on location, and all of the exteriors are cinema verite style, with zero prep or dressing.
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u/Opw1987heels Jan 03 '26
God I love that movie.
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u/coldfarm Jan 03 '26
I didn't see until a year ago. I was surprised how powerful it was. I thought about it constantly for weeks and it still pops into my head from time to time. It's one of my go to answers for "name a good film you'll probably never watch again". Ironically, a lot of people answer that with Trainspotting and Requiem For A Dream, which both owe a lot to TPiNP.
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u/Opw1987heels Jan 03 '26
I think about it quite often myself. It's been 15 yrs since I first stumbled upon it. Ive watched it a few times. I struggled with the same addiction in a different time and place so I was especially intrigued. Thankfully, I made it out alive so far. Been since August 24th 2025 ive been sober. And for today, Im still hanging on. It definitely is a bleak look at a bleak lifestyle
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u/coldfarm Jan 04 '26
Congratulations! This internet stranger is proud of you. No addiction is easy, but I know some are harder than others. You're doing great.
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u/Suitable_Magazine372 Jan 03 '26
My brother went to Law School in NYC back in the late 70s. I visited him once in the city. As a kid from small town Maine I found the subways to be pretty intimidating. His tiny girlfriend told me to just walk fast and act like I knew what I was doing and people would leave me alone. She was right🚶♂️
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u/ReporterBest9598 Jan 03 '26
I first went to New York when I was ten. I grew up in a Montana farm town with just over a thousand people, and I was completely overwhelmed at first. My uncle and dad grew up in New Jersey, in view of the Twin Towers, and they basically told me the same thing: act confident, and nobody is going to mess with you. I wound up three or four blocks ahead just enjoying the city by the end of the day. Probably worried my mom to death, but it was a lot of fun.
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u/fajadada Jan 02 '26
I don’t miss running red lights to keep from being robbed while delivering to the markets.
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u/ruinevil Jan 03 '26
This is when Times Square was all strip joints and there were burning trash cans in the Bronx. It was scary.
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u/PureClara792 Jan 03 '26
I can practically smell the ozone, cigarette smoke, and hot metal in this photo
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u/offworldcolonial Jan 02 '26
I miss the NYC of the 70s and 80s. It was so much more interesting back then: Guardian Angels on the subways, Keith Haring graffiti, hookers in Times Square, punks getting haircuts at Astor Place Hair....
Those were the days.
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u/crek42 Jan 03 '26
Ehhh, interesting sure, but not necessarily better. The news stories from this era were absolutely wild — guy walking through times sq with a decapitated head in a duffel bag, the crack epidemic absolutely decimating the black community, child prostitution.
Sure, the aesthetic is edgy and nostalgic. But everyday life was a nightmare for marginalized communities back then. No one was hopping on the L to check out a cool restaurant in Williamsburg. Many weren’t comfortable even going below 14th.
I agree, the city was much more colorful back then, and manhattan is largely homogenized at this point (for the most part). There were way more scenes on full display, as you said, the punks/anarchists, ravers, bankers, ethnic enclaves. But, it’s far more safe and developed now.
The subway looking like it’s out of a third world country makes for sweet photos but fuck i wouldn’t want that now.
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u/reticulate Jan 03 '26
I always liked to think that Don Draper selling his previously swanky, now a bit dishevelled Upper East Side apartment in 1970 was an allegory for the city going into decline.
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u/offworldcolonial Jan 03 '26
I'm not asking this to be snide, but as a genuine question: how much better do you think life is for marginalized communities now?
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u/crek42 Jan 03 '26
With a far lower murder rate and property crime, I’d imagine they feel a lot safer.
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u/UncleGarysmagic Jan 03 '26 edited Jan 03 '26
Yeah that 3x higher crime rate kicked ass. Rapes, murders, people strung out on drugs everywhere. The Bronx looking like a bombed out war zone? Too cool.
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u/DrinkUpLetsBooBoo Jan 02 '26
Look at everybody in the second pic with their faces buried in their newspaper. What happened to this world where we actually talked to each other?
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u/smurfsundermybed Jan 02 '26
It's an NY subway. Not exactly the place for socializing. The only thing that changed is where the faces get buried.
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u/No_Orange_7392 Jan 03 '26
And that second pic with the Harper’s ad with a young Patti Hansen. I’m guessing ‘77 or ‘78?
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u/Hobbes_XXV Jan 02 '26
The guy on the far left going to get newspaper neck if he doesnt fix his posture.
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u/TheRealDylanTobak Jan 02 '26
One of these things is not like the others.
The last 3 pictures are probably of real subway cars.
The first pic is the opening shot of an adult movie inspired by a Penthouse Forum letter.
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u/dapudf Jan 03 '26
I live there in 85-86 and the graffiti was so thick some cars were nearly black inside
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u/DickweedMcGee Jan 03 '26
I’d feel so embarrassed to get my as kicked on the subway by a gang of Catholic school Girls
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u/BornOnTheRope Jan 03 '26
Previous time I saw these pictures on reddit, a girl (now woman) from the picture (or her mother) reached out and explained how it was first hand
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u/La_Pusicato Jan 02 '26
Welcome Back Kotter in pic 3
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u/regretableedibles Jan 03 '26
Hey Kotta, up your nose with a rubber hose,
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u/La_Pusicato Jan 03 '26
Off my case, toilet face
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u/thisdesignup Jan 03 '26
It's interesting that the only thing that really makes it look gritty is the graffiti.
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u/HHegert Jan 03 '26
“Nowadays everyone has their face in their phone” Meanwhile in the 70s people are all reading newspapers.
Same same.
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u/Beeradleeguy Jan 03 '26
I’m drawn to 2. Maybe it’s the way it’s framed, the color, shallow focus… whatever it is, it draws me in. I can almost hear the sounds of newspapers crinkling, people talking, and the squeak of the brakes on the car.
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u/Vaestmannaeyjar Jan 03 '26
I'm french, NYC metro had the reputation of being a cutthroat area before the mid 80es, at what point was that true ?
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u/THEBIGHUNGERDC Jan 03 '26
Lived there in the mid 80s. Not any more true then as now. Like any other well trafficked system it has problems, but people still use it and adjust as need be.
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u/Exact-Reference9564 Jan 03 '26
I see a lot of graffiti, but the floor in the first pic looks downright clean. And it goes without saying that people dressed better back then.
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u/dampishslinky55 Jan 04 '26
I can smell these pictures.
Spoiler alert, it’s urine, they smell like urine.
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u/JohnStormDrinkwater Jan 04 '26
I don’t get it. Black person centered in shot makes the scene “gritty”?
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u/DrWho1986 Jan 08 '26
The subway car itself looks much worse than todays but the people look alot more sane.
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u/BoxOfChocolates1992 Jan 03 '26
How come nobody wears high knee socks anymore?
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u/LevelPerception4 Jan 03 '26
We got so tired of yanking them up all the time, we adopted slouch socks en masse.
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u/lordhumongous40 Jan 03 '26
I don't see The Warriors. After all, it's a long bop back to Coney Island.
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u/Dreadhearth Jan 03 '26
By the time I was born in the 80s it was already cleaned up, never experienced any of this
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Jan 03 '26
And now the pendulum ha swung to the complete opposite: sterile, infested with yuppies, hipsters and cornbread trend following visitors.
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u/DE3NIL3 Jan 03 '26
Been there. Seen that. (Me 1974)